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Is it TRULY worth it to get a 12/10/32 burner?

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MrCraphead

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Is it TRULY worth it to get a 12/10/32 burner as opposed to a 8/4/24 if all you're gonna do with it is burn CD-R's? I mean, how much difference time-wise is there between a 12x and a 8x? reason is, I'm in the market for either a plextor or TDK burner, and debating whether or not to spend so much on a 12x or just settle for the 8x which is like, $70 cheaper.
 
At 8x speed, I finish burning a cd in about 8 minutes total. Since I have a scsi drive I can work and burn at the same time so if I did upgrade to 12x... my time would probably be cut down to 5 minutes? Personally, I don't think that it's worth the money because they're fast enough already since most cds are only 650mbs. I guess you could get 12x if you wanted bragging rights and stuff but 8x seems more practical.
 
If you don't use it too often, a 8/4/32 will be just fine. The thing I like about the 12X burners isn't so much the write speed, but the RW speed. 10X compared to 4x is a big difference, but since you said you'll mostly be burning cd-r's, then the 8/4/32 should be enough.
 
Im fine with my 4x burner and dont plan on upgrading it. It's not like you cant wait a extra 5 minutes when you burn. I dont think 5 minutes everytime I burn is worth the money.
 
yeah, that's true. that's a lot of money for just a few minutes....but I guess it could add up if you burn lots and lots of music CD's or "backup" your games alot. 🙂
 
With hard drives being so cheap, I hardly use the rewrite function. First of all, it's quite slow and secondly each rw doesn't hold much. I'd much rather keep everything on my 45gb drive... for the savings of $70 by going with the 8x you can buy yourself a bigger hd if you need one.

If you burn lots of cds, you're better off getting a 8x scsi burner so you can work comfortably and burn. While working, those 3 extra minutes will seem REALLY insignifigant!
 
rhinox99: yeah, I probably won't even use the RW function of my drive, and just use the R. aren't SCSI burners expensive though?!
 
I think Rhinox99 made an EXCELLENT point when he pointed out the $70 price difference between the 8x and 12X burners. For around $80-90 you can purchase a 10 GB, ATA-66, 7200 RPM Hard Drive and have tons of storage room to make backups in case your MAIN Hard Drive should fail.
 
Scsi burners aren't that expensive. If you're looking for an 8x burner and you don't use the rewrite function, I recommend the plextor 8x/20x scsi drive. Try looking in the fs/t forums for them, they are about $140-150, support clonecd, and able to defeat the new SD 2.0 locks which very few drives can do. Not even the 12x plextor can do it, so it's a very good drive 🙂
 
for $70 bucks, you can almost get that 30 gig quantum drive with the buy.com coupon and the rebate... more food for thought
 
What would be a good SCSI card to get with the 8x/20x Plextor burner? and is SCSI easy to set up? uncharted territory for me.
 
If you don't plan on getting any scsi hard drives, just about any scsi card will do the trick. For my own system, I am using a 5 :Q year old scsi card and it works great for my burning setup. I can use my system at full speed while burning a cd. I've even played counterstrike while burning and it still worked out.
 
Setting up scsi is pretty easy, just pop in the scsi card, hook up the cables, make sure the jumpers on the drive are right. Since you only have the cdr drive it'll be really unlikely that you need to set anything else since it's the only device present on the scsi chain. It'll detect like any other drive as soon as you get to windows. Very simple indeed
 
hmmmmmmmm.........SCSI seems very tempting to me now. 🙂 Perhaps I'll look into upgrading my whole system to SCSI. 🙂
 
I have a scsi cdr and a scsi cdrom but there's no way I can afford a scsi hard drive 🙂 The new ones cost around $400 compared to an ide version of $150 or so. Of course they're a lot faster but I think if your comp isn't a server of some type, you really don't need a main scsi hd. Some people like to buy a small scsi hd such as 4gb and just use it to boot from since they're so fast. They sell for about $50 in the forums.

For a cdr, I really feel that scsi is worth the extra investment. My friend has an ide burner and everytime he burns he has to leave his computer completely alone or else he gets a coaster. Of course, this all changes with burn-proof but those drives are still too expensive.
 
The reason I jumped from a Plextor 8x/4x/32x to the Plextor 12x/10x/32x is two fold:

1) 12x is faster, duh!
2) "Burn Proof Technology"

When you can buy the even better TDK VeloCD 12x/10x/32x with 50 CD-Rs for $180 after rebate which also features "burn proof technology" then it's definitely worth the price increase. Then again I'm a compulsive shopper and rarely get value but rather the most performance bang for my buck, totally backwards if you ask me!
 
With scsi you really don't need burn proof, when burning my 8x drive never falls below 96% buffers. The only time burn proof might come in handy is if your machine restarts suddenly or if power goes out but honestly how often will that happen?
 
noxipoo: to the best of your knowledge, how long does a full cd take to burn at 12x? Including the time at the beginning and the end of the burn... I would like to compare it to my 8x and see how big the difference really is. I recall my time is about 8 minutes give or take a minute
 
Just today I recommended to someone in the office that they get the Plextor 8X IDE CD-RW for there son. I noticed that it is very difficult to find available at good prices - @ $145 everywhere I checked they were out of stock. 🙁 Hope the SCSI model is more available.
 
If you are going to just use the "r" function then i'd save my money and get the 8x instead. However, if you are the kind of person who has 6 things going at once then i'd check out the 12x with BurnProof or a SCSI version.

BUT

if you will use the "rw" function then i'd definitely get the 10x Vs the 4x because it makes a huge difference. I don't know why people in this forum don't take advantage of the "rw" speed of 10x capability. You can back-up, move around data and files and all that stuff with ease. I love it.
 
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