Is it true women make inferior chefs because their menstrual cycles affect their taste?

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women make inferior sushi chefs because their menstrual cycles affect their sense of taste
 
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Men are just far more competitive. Even in fashion related to women you could argue that gay males are more successful :p
 

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no, its just old world sexism. a chef does not need to taste anything to cook it.
 
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no, its just old world sexism. a chef does not need to taste anything to cook it.

.... Yeah, if you're cooking a boring recipe that you have cooked many times prior.

If it's something new or more complex I can definitely see it having an effect.
 

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.... Yeah, if you're cooking a boring recipe that you have cooked many times prior.

If it's something new or more complex I can definitely see it having an effect.

seems youve drunk the cool aid you sexist pig. exactly what is new or complex about sushi? its all technique and quality of ingredients. they train for years and years and years to put a piece of fish on a chunk of rice, theres hardly any seasoning at all.
 
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seems youve drunk the cool aid you sexist pig. exactly what is new or complex about sushi? its all technique and quality of ingredients. they train for years and years and years to put a piece of fish on a chunk of rice, theres hardly any seasoning at all.

Seems you've drunk the feminist koolaid and want to absolve yourself of facts and instead fill yourself with ignorance. Not surprising, maybe one day you can choose to learn instead of just being stupid

You do realize that your sense of smell has an effect on your taste right? Along with many other variable factors. So if all of a sudden 1 week your senses and hormones change - I can see it affecting your taste - and thus how you choose to cook or make a food item.



Does that mean women shouldn't be a chef for that week? No. Of course not. But to the question of can a menstruation cycle affect your cooking - the answer is an obvious yes. Very similarly, if you are sick in life - it can highly affect your taste buds as well.
 

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Does that mean women shouldn't be a chef for that week? No. Of course not. But to the question of can a menstruation cycle affect your cooking - the answer is an obvious yes. Very similarly, if you are sick in life - it can highly affect your taste buds as well.
more idiotic sexism. none of the science is disputed by me. everyones sense of taste is different from everyone else. none of it will correlate to ability as a chef. also a quick google search tells me that menstrual cycles make women more sensitive to smell, and so also taste. so actually they are superior chefs compared to men.
 
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more idiotic sexism. none of the science is disputed by me. everyones sense of taste is different from everyone else. none of it will correlate to ability as a chef. also a quick google search tells me that menstrual cycles make women more sensitive to smell, and so also taste. so actually they are superior chefs compared to men.

lol you need some mental health bud.

Real life isn't an RPG. You don't equip menstruation and gain +40 to taste. Taste isn't a "I'm good at it" thing.

Anyhow you're still missing the point, thus proving my prior points so I'll just stop trying to reason with you.
 

randay

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lol you need some mental health bud.

Real life isn't an RPG. You don't equip menstruation and gain +40 to taste. Taste isn't a "I'm good at it" thing.

Anyhow you're still missing the point, thus proving my prior points so I'll just stop trying to reason with you.
lol you need some mental health bud.

Real life isn't an RPG. You don't equip menstruation and gain -40 to taste. Taste isn't a "I'm woman at it" thing.

Anyhow you're still missing the point, thus proving my prior points so I'll just stop trying to reason with you.
 

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Yes, taste is needed to be a good chef.

No, I don't think being a woman has anything to do with it. All senses are subjective, and you may just as well have a female chef that has an infinitely better/more refined sense of taste on any given day of the year compared to a male chef. And that's assuming there's any actual, legitimate, real research to back that theory up.
 
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Yes, taste is needed to be a good chef.

No, I don't think being a woman has anything to do with it. All senses are subjective, and you may just as well have a female chef that has an infinitely better/more refined sense of taste on any given day of the year compared to a male chef. And that's assuming there's any actual, legitimate, real research to back that theory up.

There's plenty of research showing that menstruation, pregnancy, etc... can effect your sense of taste and smell. https://www.longdom.org/open-access...ing-the-menstrual-cycle-2155-9600-1000383.pdf

That's simply a fact. My argument is simply that if it can change your taste - and your cooking is based on taste - then it can very well effect your cooking and change it.


I have no doubt that it wouldn't affect it in any major severity. And of course it's completely unreasonable to expect a chef to stop cooking during that week. The fact at the end of the day though is that... Yes, it can change how you cook. You also have to realize, this isn't cooking for Outback Steakhouse. This is a legendary restaurant that presidents eat at that costs $50,000+ for a tab.
 

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There's plenty of research showing that menstruation, pregnancy, etc... can effect your sense of taste and smell. https://www.longdom.org/open-access...ing-the-menstrual-cycle-2155-9600-1000383.pdf

That's simply a fact. My argument is simply that if it can change your taste - and your cooking is based on taste - then it can very well effect your cooking and change it.


I have no doubt that it wouldn't affect it in any major severity. And of course it's completely unreasonable to expect a chef to stop cooking during that week. The fact at the end of the day though is that... Yes, it can change how you cook. You also have to realize, this isn't cooking for Outback Steakhouse. This is a legendary restaurant that presidents eat at that costs $50,000+ for a tab.

I'm not sure if you are trolling or not, but you do realize this guy is 95 and a 95 year old women wouldn't have a menstrual cycle. I know a woman's body is a mystery to most men, but I mean this is pretty basic biology... Not to mention getting old affects your taste and smell as much as anything so the point is beyond moot.
 

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I'm not sure if you are trolling or not, but you do realize this guy is 95 and a 95 year old women wouldn't have a menstrual cycle. I know a woman's body is a mystery to most men, but I mean this is pretty basic biology... Not to mention getting old affects your taste and smell as much as anything so the point is beyond moot.
Hes probably not trolling. I think his problem is that he is totally ignoring the context of the OP. And/or his clear lack of understanding of Japanese culture.
 
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I'm not sure if you are trolling or not, but you do realize this guy is 95 and a 95 year old women wouldn't have a menstrual cycle. I know a woman's body is a mystery to most men, but I mean this is pretty basic biology... Not to mention getting old affects your taste and smell as much as anything so the point is beyond moot.

Not trolling. Nor am I saying anything that particular about this individual story itself.

The title of the thread is: "Is it true women make inferior chefs because their menstrual cycles affect their taste?"

My answer is pretty clear: A menstruating woman can have an effect of how they cook. No it does not mean they are inferior and should not be able to cook during menstruation. Not sure why this is a hard concept to understand.
 

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Is this thread for real?? Even if you accept that the premise is true, all a female chef would have to do is develop/taste new recipes when she is not having her period. I am sure most women would argue that more big name chefs are men because of the "good old boy" attitudes and anti-female discrimination.
 

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Not trolling. Nor am I saying anything that particular about this individual story itself.

The title of the thread is: "Is it true women make inferior chefs because their menstrual cycles affect their taste?"

My answer is pretty clear: A menstruating woman can have an effect of how they cook. No it does not mean they are inferior and should not be able to cook during menstruation. Not sure why this is a hard concept to understand.

Because you finished your statement with this: "Yes, it can change how you cook. You also have to realize, this isn't cooking for Outback Steakhouse. This is a legendary restaurant that presidents eat at that costs $50,000+ for a tab. "
 
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Because you finished your statement with this: "Yes, it can change how you cook. You also have to realize, this isn't cooking for Outback Steakhouse. This is a legendary restaurant that presidents eat at that costs $50,000+ for a tab. "

What about that negates my previous statement?

My point was that a chain restaurant "cook" the same recipe that they are given from Day 1 of training. When you are an ACTUAL chef that actually creates plates and creates recipes, it isn't the same thing.

Suffice it to say - my main point was that there is a difference between a "Chef" - someone that CREATES unique dishes - which likely require the sense of smell/taste in order to evaluate dishes - and a COOK - someone that just cooks a recipe based on what is written down regardless - no taste testing - no smelling required.
 

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Obviously the men of ATOT need to chart their wives’ menstrual cycles and the quality of their cooking. After a few months, post the results here and on the fridge.
 
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Isn't the entire premise based on nothing changing on daily basis for a women that would affect a sense of taste outside their cycle? I would think anything from the meals they ate, the air they breathed or the type of toothpaste used could mess that up. Even testing multiple types of food in a different sequence could affect their taste. Yes, there may be an impact, but the large number of other environmental factors could play a bigger role at any point.

Obviously the men of ATOT need to chart their wives’ menstrual cycles and the quality of their cooking. After a few months, post the results here and on the fridge.

To use our house as an example. Cooking dinner is an exercise in coordinating everything going on while trying to make something. No matter how many times she makes the same meal, it's slightly different and so are the circumstances of the day.
 

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Because you finished your statement with this: "Yes, it can change how you cook. You also have to realize, this isn't cooking for Outback Steakhouse. This is a legendary restaurant that presidents eat at that costs $50,000+ for a tab. "
i take back what i said earlier, hes trolling.
 

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What about that negates my previous statement?

My point was that a chain restaurant "cook" the same recipe that they are given from Day 1 of training. When you are an ACTUAL chef that actually creates plates and creates recipes, it isn't the same thing.

Suffice it to say - my main point was that there is a difference between a "Chef" - someone that CREATES unique dishes - which likely require the sense of smell/taste in order to evaluate dishes - and a COOK - someone that just cooks a recipe based on what is written down regardless - no taste testing - no smelling required.

I really struggle to see what your point is, outside that yes, women are inferior chefs. Ok, let's assume that the difference in taste while menstruating is an inherit disadvantage. They can't create their dishes while they aren't menstruating? This is ignoring the assumption that the scientific difference in taste you are parading about is inherently inferior. If you don't contend that it does make them inferior chefs, what are you even on about?