Is it too much to ask for a politician to not lie?

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Fenixgoon

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Enuff said

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That's zelensky with trump? Holy shit he looks totally different now. Beard, obviously, but also skin tone and suit vs. no suit, hah.
 

HomerJS

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Theres quite a few threads about politicians lying. Because this is a left leaning board theyre mostly GOP, but Democrats arent immune either. Lets take Joe for example:


He's told quite a few doozies. Aside from his lies, his behavior make him ineligable for POTUS again,, but who's left? Im not aware of anyone left or right who hasnt been embroiled in some story of being caught in major lies or scandal. And of course Trump lied continuously. Theyre both serial liars.

Is it too much to expect for a candidate to just be honest?
This thread would have credibility if you had spoken up when the current record holder was amassing his 30K.

Now your rantings ring hollow. I have no time for them because you don't really care about politicians lying. If you can show any post you made during his term indicating Trump's serial lying being a problem then I recant this post.
 

Jaskalas

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Biden is a mouth piece, not a truth sayer.

Yet what he represents is a far better America than the alternative. When looking to stop treasonous insurrectionists, one does not need to settle for perfect. Though it is notable our opponents would love to lie and convince us to make perfection the enemy of good. All so we can sit idly by and do nothing in the face of evil. When one examines your goals and your motives, it is far less flattering than a dawdling old man.
 

Moonbeam

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The ops link has 20 false claims listed while Biden has been in office

trump had 30,000 false claims while in office

both sides
Clearly those 30,000 lies were in the service of the good while those 20 lies were straight from the Devils mouth. Going by the numbers is just a Devil's trick to to cause a holy warrior to lose faith. The ego hides it's self importance behind the righteousness of purpose to protect it's sacred cow. What do you bet if there were a way around this people would respond with a big, "NO THANKS'.
 

Moonbeam

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It seems the best way to stop the right from lying is to find a way to sue them in court where in some courts you still have to supply real evidence of your claims and to make them without portfolio results in a hefty f
financial penalty. Seems, for example, Fox News knew that Trump was lying when it came to a law suit and only in that case.
 

Lanyap

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This thread would have credibility if you had spoken up when the current record holder was amassing his 30K.

Now your rantings ring hollow. I have no time for them because you don't really care about politicians lying. If you can show any post you made during his term indicating Trump's serial lying being a problem then I recant this post.



My feels tell me that OP made this post trying to get someone here to say it was Biden’s cognitive abilities and not purposely lying like trump.
 

HomerJS

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It seems the best way to stop the right from lying is to find a way to sue them in court where in some courts you still have to supply real evidence of your claims and to make them without portfolio results in a hefty f
financial penalty. Seems, for example, Fox News knew that Trump was lying when it came to a law suit and only in that case.
Seems whenever another Republican makes an open accusation about someone being a groomer that's ripe for a defamation lawsuit
 

ralfy

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According to the necon magazine The Atlantic, that is the very nature of successful politicians:


The gist is that socipathic behavior involves calculating minds and charm, and both are part of lying.

In which case, you're asking too much.