Is it time to start racially profiling young, single white males?

[RabidMongoose]

You mean unless liberals are complaining about welfare spending going to red states?

You have zero evidence that the shooters were conservatives. You might want to take a look at the statistics at who young people vote for you (hint its not Republicans)

Maybe liberals should stop blaming conservatives for their inability to control their homicidal tendencies.

Well red state governments tend to be conservative and they have been failures and thus requiring federal welfare from more blue states. But not everyone in a red state is conservative.

This is about the ideology of conservative white men, especially with regard to more destructive aspects of their culture being catered to by a political party (e.g., extreme gun views). People generally are not all democratic or all republican in terms of issues. Here we have an issue that is a direct result of destructive elements of conservative white men culture.

 

[RabidMongoose]

:thumbsup:

This is probably one of the best posts on this forum.

Thank you. As I've been saying for a while, this is basically the most serious social issue today and I hope that Obama can address it in his second term.

 

[Incorruptible]

Thank you. As I've been saying for a while, this is basically the most serious social issue today and I hope that Obama can address it in his second term.

So the breakdown of the black family and single mothers isn't important?

 

[RabidMongoose]

So the breakdown of the black family and single mothers isn't important?

The mental degradation of conservative white men is far more serious. We have a huge portion of the population that has become mentally unstable and self de-assimilated from American culture and society.

This is the most serious social issue today. There are other important social issues, but nothing is close to the mental degradation of conservative white men and their self de-assimilation.

 

[Incorruptible]

The mental degradation of conservative white men is far more serious. We have a huge portion of the population that has become mentally unstable and self de-assimilated from American culture and society.

This is the most serious social issue today. There are other important social issues, but nothing is close to the mental degradation of conservative white men and their self de-assimilation.

So all Conservative men have this problem?

 

[Joepublic2]

The White Republican Male is an ideology, a concept that has been destroying America for centuries. It's not necessarily the Republican Party of the past.

You're acting like they have a monopoly on oppression on the american continents which is just ridiculous. European diseases killed more aboriginal people than europeans ever did, probably about 90% of the population between 1400 and 1800. That coupled with a flood of better armed people from overcrowded europe is what finally displaced them. Before all that happened, though, various native empires were enslaving and genociding each other without any outside influence. It's human nature.

Many of those systems were developed to cater to the White Republican Male rather than society. For example, many of those highways were developed for suburban living, which appeals to the White Republican Male. Yet, the new generations, which is much more diverse, tends to want to live in cities. The infrastructure the Republican White Male built was built to cater to him, but is now a waste.

Infrastructure benefits everybody in the long run. The only particular group it caters to is the people with the money to leverage it. Suburban living caters to everybody when the alternative is living in urban centers that are perceived to have massive crime and social problems. Tons of young people love living in the cities until they have kids then their priorities change from being socially connected to getting the safest places to live for their kids and the best school districts for them to go to. It's cheaper to live in the suburbs when energy costs are relatively low, which they have still are imo. I know tons of people that would like to live in the city but they can't afford to.

The White Republican Male is largely given degrees, opportunities, etc. and squanders them. Every White Republican Male should be billionaires, Nobel prize winners, etc. considering the amazing amount of handouts they are given by society and the government. 100% of the White Republican Male receives this kind of welfare. It's a very disproportionate distribution of welfare.

Hardly anybody is given degrees except for celebrities and politicians. The vast majority of people earn them. I don't know what you mean by handouts; your average white or asian or jewish person has to score better than average on tests to get admitted to good colleges and universities these days due to affirmative action so the opposite is true. The only legally codified racism in institutes of higher learning anymore is against whites, asians and jewish people, largely. Every group anywhere in the world on the top of society tends to start coasting on momentum and nepotism after a while; again that's human nature.

I have been advocating assimilation and forgiveness for the White Republican Male rather than vengeance, so I'm not sure where you got that from.

So what does assimilation require? Intentionally hobbling oneself and one's family/tribe through redistribution of power and wealth? Why would anybody willing do such a thing, regardless of how said wealth and power was acquired? No surprise that idea isn't getting very many bites.

The governments are still around. I just hope people embrace assimilation and forgiveness rather than payback.

No government is going to intentionally weaken itself with respect to another to make up for real or imagined slights of the past. There might have been a chance of that in the far past before power in the world became as hugely centralized as it is today but modern supergovernments that "represent" millions/billions of people don't care at all about the interests of the constituents; the only interests they pursue is their own.

 

[michal1980]

The mental degradation of conservative white men is far more serious. We have a huge portion of the population that has become mentally unstable and self de-assimilated from American culture and society.

This is the most serious social issue today. There are other important social issues, but nothing is close to the mental degradation of conservative white men and their self de-assimilation.

your still stuck on this stupid theory.

 

[piasabird]

So is this an anti-whiteman thread? So are you promoting racism or what?

 

[HeXen]

i profile everyone, down to sub categories.

 

[Incorruptible]

So is this an anti-whiteman thread? So are you promoting racism or what?

This is typical of leftists

 

[RabidMongoose]

So is this an anti-whiteman thread? So are you promoting racism or what?

No. At least for me I want to see more governmental services to help out conservative white men. Obamacare can be used as a vehicle to provide them with mental health services.

 

[waggy]

So is this an anti-whiteman thread? So are you promoting racism or what?

are you new here?

its ok since the "victim" is white males.

 

[piasabird]

What is a white man anyway? A white man is a slave for his government masters.

 

[RabidMongoose]

So all Conservative men have this problem?

Not all, but many. It's especially prevalent among conservative white men after the election of Obama.

 

[RabidMongoose]

your still stuck on this stupid theory.

At this point it's not a theory, it's a fact.

 

[Cerb]

At this point it's not a theory, it's a fact.

Facts are things people can generally agree on, based on evidence.

Thus far, you've defined whatever you're talking about about as clearly as, "family values."

 

[RabidMongoose]

Facts are things people can generally agree on, based on evidence.

Thus far, you've defined whatever you're talking about about as clearly as, "family values."

The truth is a fact and I speak the truth.

 

[Cerb]

The truth is a fact and I speak the truth.

What truth? Circular argument != truth.

We have terminology that we define. Much terminology is fairly commonplace, so in context, we all know what it means. You're not using such terminology, and several threads have, so far, gone off the rails in really odd ways; including with you and a couple others arguing past other posters, clearly indicating that there is a significant cognitive dissonance.

What you've been saying so far is not truth. It is not fact. I can't say that it's lies; nor that there is no factual basis. What I can say is that I can't clearly understand what you're actually speaking of, and it's also clear that other posters are interpreting it in their own ways, that may or may not be the same as what you mean--but some of them surely aren't.

Instead of pointless BS like, "the truth is a fact and I speak the truth," how about defining what it is you're saying, in terms that regular folks, who might wear tennis shoes, or the occasional python boot, and who put up with our stereotypical red-state neighbors, already know and understand. It's OK if it takes a paragraph.

What is the alleged illness of white Replican men?
What is the, obviously older-than-the-actual-party, white Republican male ideology?

We know what it means for someone to be white, male, and conservative. But we don't all go, "aha," and necessarily see a mental illness, there. Disposition for fear-based thinking, yes (but that also qualifies for a fair chunk self-proclaimed liberals, as well). Wanting others to live by their morals, regardless of welfare or harm, yes.

But, past that, you're going to be much more specific to actually make any real sense.

OTOH, maybe I should probably stop. Icorruptible is actually making sense to me in these threads, so there's a chance I might be going down a rabbit hole...

 

[RabidMongoose]

What is the alleged illness of white Replican men?

It's a mental sickness from the realization that they are no longer a sufficient voting group to win the Presidency and that they will have to abandon racial-gender identity politics that they have depended on for years.

 

[Cerb]

It's a mental sickness from the realization that they are no longer a sufficient voting group to win the Presidency and that they will have to abandon racial-gender identity politics that they have depended on for years.

Well, if that's all, can get them foaming at the mouth, and then have the next Republican Presidential candidate chosen by cage fighting?

Those who want only the working and rich conservative whites to matter lost long ago. By increasing the wealth gap, they have pushed their own chosen down to the levels of the rising minorities, and are rapidly losing their faithful, now that the credit wave has crashed ashore.

Based on my experience as a red-state resident, if some of the Northern Democrats would get out of power, or tone down their fascism (including gun control), Republican support down here could be all but wiped out, even from their precious traditionally conservative whites.

 

[OCGuy]

I am an upper-middle class white male with no handicaps...I am profiled all of the time.

And believe me, it is awesome.

The contempt by 1st-2nd generation immigrants that can and never will quite fit in with the "white" culture of this country is comical.

Personally I believe this thread should have been locked and the OP warned and banned immediately. The fact that they were not is a tacit approval of the idea of singling out a race and gender for different treatment by authorities.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I am an upper-middle class white male with no handicaps...I am profiled all of the time.

And believe me, it is awesome.

The contempt by 1st-2nd generation immigrants that can and never will quite fit in with the "white" culture of this country is comical.

Personally I believe this thread should have been locked and the OP warned and banned immediately. The fact that they were not is a tacit approval of the idea of singling out a race and gender for different treatment by authorities.

How'd it feel to watch Romney go down in flames?

 

[OCGuy]

How'd it feel to watch Romney go down in flames?

I felt nothing at all. You are assuming because I am white, I automatically detest the thought of someone who is "brown" being the President.

Besides him being one of the most conservative democrats to ever be elected, he is much closer to Dubya than he is to Flava Flav.

Your point is exactly the problem with this thread, other than the overt racism. Broad-brushing a group of people due to skin color or socio-economic status is wrong.

Believe me, there are more gun deaths between Latin American and AA gangs every night in LA, Chicago, Detroit, Oakland, and Philly than you can imagine.

Please come back when you can sit at the adult table when discussing politics.