Religion, at one point, was usefull to humans, and civilization as a whole. We gained valuable steps and advancements in art, literature, music, poetry, as well as had someone we could unify under. ( Yes, it was the cause of wars, but people still unfied under it). As everything comes and goes, it seem now that religion is causing more of a stagnant society than vibrant one. It seems to be stepping in the way of advancement in other fields, namely science, and anything that might seem to be religiously wrong. So the question is, is it time to pass by religion as what dictates what we do? I am not saying it is wrong to be religious, or not religious, but sort of like some things do not belong in the office, so does religion not belong when making decisions that affect the advancement of society.
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Is it time to pass religion? Is it holding us back now?
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Stunt
Diamond Member
That depends...I find religious people, not the ones you see on tv or in politics...real religious people, help tremendously in their communities and have good morality, donating to charity, family oriented, well put together.
I find religious people to be a large benifit to society and shouldn't be looked down on. It is when they start listening to the talking heads and try to politicize everything, that's where I draw the line. I don't think it will affect the advancement of society, i have many friends who are religious and study genetics for the next generation of biotech. Technology will progress with or without religion, always has and always will.
You will see that in every generation where the older generation pushes for the way it has always been done, that doesnt relate just to religion but everyone. It may just be more apparent with the baby boomers making up so much of the society. I really don't see this affecting society other than politics, but in the end capitalists and socialists will debate and argue (nothing to do with religion), and the arguing will continue.
I find religious people to be a large benifit to society and shouldn't be looked down on. It is when they start listening to the talking heads and try to politicize everything, that's where I draw the line. I don't think it will affect the advancement of society, i have many friends who are religious and study genetics for the next generation of biotech. Technology will progress with or without religion, always has and always will.
You will see that in every generation where the older generation pushes for the way it has always been done, that doesnt relate just to religion but everyone. It may just be more apparent with the baby boomers making up so much of the society. I really don't see this affecting society other than politics, but in the end capitalists and socialists will debate and argue (nothing to do with religion), and the arguing will continue.
PrinceofWands
Lifer
Revitalization efforts are often spurred by religious fervor, and that may be what we're entering into now. It's no secret that most things are cyclical, including religious interest. We had a fairly strong period of waning faiths, now we're swinging the other way. In and of itself that's not bad or problematic. The issue is when the religion ties itself closely to politics. Then it's time to sit up and take notice, and possibly act a little.
So long as all religious people want is the right to practice their faiths, it's all good. When those people try to force others to conform, you risk serious confrontation and even war. I know very few religious people, but everyone I know (with 2 exceptions) wants religious freedom ensured. Those same people however, religious and otherwise, would sooner have civil war 2.0 than live under theocratic rule (or even the illusion of theocratic rule).
That's the real issue now as I see it...not that religion exists, but that it's being used as a catalyst to force government control of individual morality. Abortion, sex-ed, contraception, death with dignity, war on porn, taxes going to church organizations, etc. It has truly become a serious threat to the American way of life.
So long as all religious people want is the right to practice their faiths, it's all good. When those people try to force others to conform, you risk serious confrontation and even war. I know very few religious people, but everyone I know (with 2 exceptions) wants religious freedom ensured. Those same people however, religious and otherwise, would sooner have civil war 2.0 than live under theocratic rule (or even the illusion of theocratic rule).
That's the real issue now as I see it...not that religion exists, but that it's being used as a catalyst to force government control of individual morality. Abortion, sex-ed, contraception, death with dignity, war on porn, taxes going to church organizations, etc. It has truly become a serious threat to the American way of life.
Steeplerot
Lifer
I look at religion as a offshoot of evolution from our need for acute self-awareness and awareness of our enviroment to maintain the intricate social networks that have served us so well as homo-sapiens, granted we are now learning why these natural events happen, like lightning etc. that before were literally supernatural.
Will religion carry on? or will religion be one of the main causes of our extinction as we stumble on the next step on this path of what is called life.
Is the human race ready? Or will we let the old ways hinder our moving forward, evolution is not very tolerant of inefficency in a species from what we have seen.
It does seem that there is still a large portion of humans still predestined to hold on to these old superstitions, and it is even making a resurgence in parts of the world as old societys decay and look to old ways to hold the status quo.
Regardless, If evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will evolve. 😉
Will religion carry on? or will religion be one of the main causes of our extinction as we stumble on the next step on this path of what is called life.
Is the human race ready? Or will we let the old ways hinder our moving forward, evolution is not very tolerant of inefficency in a species from what we have seen.
It does seem that there is still a large portion of humans still predestined to hold on to these old superstitions, and it is even making a resurgence in parts of the world as old societys decay and look to old ways to hold the status quo.
Regardless, If evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will evolve. 😉
sandorski
No Lifer
Why? Does "God" want us crawling in the mud?
The problem with Religion has little to do with whether "God" exists or not IMO. The problem is that Religion insists that "God" associates with them and them alone. This leads to Religions thinking that their way is the only way, others and even "God" be damned if they disagree.
Albatross
Platinum Member
look, i`m not american,so i`m not very knowledgeable with what happens in the usa.
but the fact of killing babies for stem cells to cure, let`s say, cancer it`s not such a wonderful thing if humans have immortal souls.you are delaying the inevitable.
even if science will bring us immortality(in theory),its meaningless without a spiritual dimension to human existence.
Religion is not the only path to a "spirtual dimension to human existence". In fact, IMHO, it is not even the best path in many cases. I do not follow any specific religion (although I am interested in the good parts of many of them), most of my spiritual depth is uniquely mine. But I'd argue I have enough spiritual depth to make earthly immortality a fascinating exerience. Just because I (or another else for that matter) don't go to church on Sunday doesn't mean there is a void needing to be filled. Try thinking outside the box sometime.
Steeplerot
Lifer
How is that? Plenty of societies have done fine without the christian god, we are decended from many many cultures with no christian god, just the fact that you are here negates that.
You ancestors society did not turn to dust, but did well enough to bring us to the point we are at now, matter of fact since christianity has declined in the past few hundred years the human race has grown by leaps and bounds since growing beyond the old superstitions.
You ancestors society did not turn to dust, but did well enough to bring us to the point we are at now, matter of fact since christianity has declined in the past few hundred years the human race has grown by leaps and bounds since growing beyond the old superstitions.
Steeplerot
Lifer
I don't get this, are you saying we should be afraid of the human race having to take responsibility for our own future? Why?
The human race has done quite well regardless of the current god worshipped.
Actually it seems that periods where Christianity has ruled totally the societies have gone into decline, how do you explain the dark ages of europe when eastern civilizations flourished?
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