Is it time to let go, to realize and accept that all that liberals hope for will never come to pass that for liberals the enemy is within?

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Moonbeam

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So long as we hold onto Democracy and our existing system - the best we can do to effect change is to simply campaign for it.

Now... this being the United States. Winning elections and achieving a simple majority is not enough to attain power. Not enough power to effect change. That would require a super majority. So the threshold to wield power in this country is incredibly high.

Will we ever fulfill our dreams of a safer and more satisfied America?

Maybe not. But to surrender the campaign is to surrender to violence. And becoming Afghanistan would only push us further from our goals. We must stave off a surrender unto madness for as long as possible. The rhetoric others use does summon a rage. I too feel the passion to move beyond words. But I also know what it would mean, and the price is just too steep. It must not be paid. For there is no victory in simply starting a bloodbath. For we would find ourselves consumed within it. Victims all, of the madness that would be unleashed.

Our countrymen are crazy enough when they talk. You do not want to see them take action instead.
This is how we are supposed to think. This is rational thought. What if there is an issue about our unconsciousness that opposes all of this? Clearly there is. If then the problem is that we are asleep to our real motivations, no hope can come by pretending that reason can win. If hope is impossible then the only alternative would lie in a the realization of hopelessness. We get nowhere with pretense, seems to me.
 

Fenixgoon

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You just posted the difference. Thanks.
Which is different than the "typical" poor person (whatever that might mean) how?
What makes these farmers so deserving of aid but others not when economic disaster can strike anyone for reasons far out of their control?

And you do know that one of the biggest factors in someone being poor as an adult is being poor as a child, right?

children who were born to families at the top of the income structure have the highest probability of being in the highest income strata as adults, while those born at the bottom have the highest probability of being poor as adults. Isaacs suggests that “about half of the difference in income between families in one generation persists into the next generation.”
 
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hal2kilo

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Which 6 traitorous Dem house members voted no on the infrastructure bill? Hope Pelosi names and shames them
A lot of their those particular congress persons agenda items were dropped from the bill to get it to pass for the good old status quo moderates. I'm sure they watched the count, and Nancy knew it would pass without them. Sorry Dems don't line up like Nazis.
 
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eelw

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A lot of their those particular congress persons agenda items were dropped from the bill to get it to pass for the good old status quo moderates. I'm sure they watched the count, and Nancy knew it would pass without them. Sorry Dems don't line up like Nazis.
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Pelosi does line them up. She's sick of them being a pain in her butt. Said traitorous members

"Here are the six House Democrats who broke from their party to vote against the bill:
  • Rep. Jamaal Bowman of New York
  • Rep. Cori Bush of Missouri
  • Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York
  • Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota
  • Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts
  • Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan"
 
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A lot of their those particular congress persons agenda items were dropped from the bill to get it to pass for the good old status quo moderates. I'm sure they watched the count, and Nancy knew it would pass without them. Sorry Dems don't line up like Nazis.
Tell it to Senators Manchin and Sinema, they would differ with your assessment.
 

Moonbeam

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My bet is that American hatred of American and Americans will return the Senate and the House to Republicans in 2022 and the Presidency in 20 24, in their usual cycle of endless self destruction, but I wonder what will happen when the American people then turn on them and find they can't be replaced by Democrats because Republicans will have closed that option. Perhaps then American passive aggressive self destruction break out in the streets. People are just not going to give up on fucking themselves.