Is it time for a Male Liberation Movement?

[Aeolus]

Correct thraashman.

I have read many biased studies like that one claiming to be independent in the past, nothing new there.

 

[yellowperil]

traashman,

We're talking rates here, not isolated case studies of cocaine-crazed women shooting their husbands or girlfriends kicking their boyfriends in the ribs because he didn't 'perform' like she wanted.

Aeolus,

I should remind you that this study is based on a national scientific survey. Yes, there are room for biases, but certainly no more than unsubstantiated 'common knowledge' ideas.

 

[Aeolus]

It is common knowledge that women attack their husbands just as much as men attack their wives. You have been force fed biased media from large corporations for so long, your not in touch with reality. My uncle is a Chicago cop, and no ammount of "scientific (the word scientific has no meaning, I can make scrambleing eggs sound scientific" study" will disprove first hand experience.

 

[yellowperil]

Aeolus,

I don't think blanket statements about the media and large corporations influencing every study that contradicts your beliefs are valid. Yes, I'm skeptical of the media and corporations as well. But this whole 'counter-culture' attitute is also suspect. To what extent do you accept the figures? As far as I know, this study did a good job of defining and covering the variables. There are always going to be confounding variables, that's a given. But at some point you're going to have to question your own motives for believing what you believe as well as questioning other peoples' motives. Your uncle I'm sure is a good man. But he is physically unable to get a first-hand experience of every domestic violence case across the land of America. Even though this study can't either, it is much closer because it is a combined effort of many surveys from many areas.

 

[Whisper]

Indeed. It's always easy to ignore studies and facts, and instead go based on "common knowledge" and anecdotal evidence. That's why the above is considered inferior logic.

As for women abusing men as often as the reverse...I highly doubt that is the case, at least in the physical sense. The average male is larger than the average female, and the average person is not going to attack something that they know is a threat to their safety (referring back to the larger size deal). I will say that there are perhaps other areas in which men are discriminated against (child custody being foremost among them), but spousal abuse just doesn't ring a bell as being equal.

 

[SSP]

Ok. Thanks to you guys, the movement is dead.

 

[thraashman]

as far as the study goes, that's based on reported cases. Simple facts are that most women can hit me as hard as they want, multiple times, and I won't be hurt badly enough to bother reporting it. Remember, not all women are built like Chyna, and most men are significantly stronger than most women.

Example
Woman hits me as hard as she can, I flinch maybe get bruised, possibly bleeding slightly.
I hit woman as hard as I can, she has 3 teeth knocked out and a broken jaw.
It's not that physical violence happens less from women, it's that it doesn't hurt me, so why do I care.

 

[thraashman]

To help keep the movement alive, I got this news clip out of the July 1999 issue of Playboy. And yes I actually have this one for the articles, I "borrowed" it from a roommate specifically for this little news clip.

A theology professor at Boston College who has taught female-only classes for 25 years took a leave of absence rather than allow male students to enroll in her feminist ethics course. Mary Daly permits men to absorb her wisdomin independent study projects but says allowing them to participate in class discussions would inhibit her female students. She says women have been socialized to "nurse" men and defer to them, which would alter the dynamic of the course. Men also tend to be disruptive, which would "dumb down" the class and keep it from "soaring," she told The Boston Globe. "This is not about discrimination," she said. "This is about leveling the rights of women and minorities so that white male power reigns" The university says Daly's policy only became an issue after two male students complained, and one threatened to sue. A spokesman noted that if administrators allowed a male professor to bar women, "we'd be run out of town."

 

[Aeolus]

thraashman beat me to it, reported cases - and cases we choose to accept.