Is it the end now for Xp

[StinkyPinky]

XP is 12 years old and it still enjoys a massive market share. It's ridiculous. It would be like Mac users still using Mac OS 10.1

If you still need to run a 32 bit OS, use Win 7/8 32 bit.

 

[John Connor]

I ran XP 64 Pro!

 

[nemesismk2]

XP will stick around for a while I think, lot of companies are using it, and we're in an era where IT is continuously being downsized to save money which also means less time and money for upgrades. There is no positive change to the company's income by upgrading so management does not see any reason to do it.

Yeah i think Windows XP will be around for a while as well and according to some websites use of Windows XP is actually rising while Windows 7 is falling.

 

[bbhaag]

Yeah i think Windows XP will be around for a while as well and according to some websites use of Windows XP is actually rising while Windows 7 is falling.

Yeah I think it will stick around to. Like at my doctors office or my kids schools and places like local municipalities. It's cool though because none of those places hold vital information. Xp is a rock. It will never break.

 

[nemesismk2]

Yeah I think it will stick around to. Like at my doctors office or my kids schools and places like local municipalities. It's cool though because none of those places hold vital information. Xp is a rock. It will never break.

I think that for Windows 7 it has more to do with Windows 7 users upgrading to Windows 8 for Windows 7 falling. I don't know if this explains why Windows 8 is falling because Windows 8.1 would i imagine come under Windows 8.

 

[Mem]

Yeah I think it will stick around to. Like at my doctors office or my kids schools and places like local municipalities. It's cool though because none of those places hold vital information. Xp is a rock. It will never break.

I went to my local college a few years back and asked them why are you still on XP?...Usual case of money and a few staff members refusing to even try Win7 (this was before 8 was released) .

 

[denis280]

I went to my local college a few years back and asked them why are you still on XP?...Usual case of money and a few staff members refusing to even try Win7 (this was before 8 was released) .

The cost for enterprise for new os and most of the time systems.is unreal.

 

[xgsound]

NEVER! have I got any malware from XP or any other OS for that matter. It's user related!

Mostly you are right, it's user related. Unfortunately you have now summoned up the computer gremlins from their slimy depths.

Proceed with caution
Jim ps: The new avatar is much better!

 

[snouter]

I feel that OSes "generally" get better.

Win2000 -> WinXP -> Vista -> Win7 -> Win8

XP def got long in the tooth.

Vista was the only one I truly did not like.

I've never gotten the outrage towards Win8.

 

[Cerb]

if you still need to run a 32 bit os, use a virtual machine

FTFY

You can usually have your cake and eat it too. With an added monitor, you can even use both OSes efficiently, at the same time, sharing storage, for legacy software.

 

[Charlie98]

Dumb question time...

Is support for XP Pro going away as well? Now that I'm paying attention to it, it seems like 9 out of 10 places I go (doctors office, retail, et al...) is still running 2000 or XP...

Is this going to turn out like the Y2K bug...? Tales of doom and gloom @ 12:01 AM on 8APR?

 

[lxskllr]

Dumb question time...

Is support for XP Pro going away as well? Now that I'm paying attention to it, it seems like 9 out of 10 places I go (doctors office, retail, et al...) is still running 2000 or XP...

Is this going to turn out like the Y2K bug...? Tales of doom and gloom @ 12:01 AM on 8APR?

Yup. XP is done; all of it. Doom and gloom might be a little dramatic, but I predict problems. The smart organization will learn from their previous mistake, but organizations are notoriously dumb.

 

[RandomFool]

I heard MS has a backdoor built into the last update to XP to allow them to remotely update all those PCs to iOS 8.1.

 

[Charlie98]

I heard MS has a backdoor built into the last update to XP to allow them to remotely update all those PCs to iOS 8.1.

(in my best HAL/9000 voice...)
"I'm sorry, Dave, I can't let you continue using XP... it is inferior to my 8.0 system. I will now terminate that application."

 

[Cerb]

Dumb question time...

Is support for XP Pro going away as well? Now that I'm paying attention to it, it seems like 9 out of 10 places I go (doctors office, retail, et al...) is still running 2000 or XP...

All XP.

Is this going to turn out like the Y2K bug...? Tales of doom and gloom @ 12:01 AM on 8APR?

That's a good question. Many of those computers can be isolated in the network, some will be upgraded and software vendors given the finger, and some will grudgingly go on, with users screwing them up worse than ever.

Yup. XP is done; all of it. Doom and gloom might be a little dramatic, but I predict problems. The smart organization will learn from their previous mistake, but organizations are notoriously dumb.

Impossible, for the doctor's offices. Sandboxing is the only option. The computer is considered part of the machine the software it uses works with, and it's going to be years before newish Windows versions get through the regulatory crap, and will be part of the new machine, rather than an upgrade of software for the current one. The thing is, in many cases, those machines need to be on the network, either to push files, or pull them, so completely cutting them off isn't really an option. The office itself can be smart, and the company making the fancy machines can be smart, but the red-taped government entities in the middle...

 

[BUTCH1]

Add in another, my Dr's office is still running XP, maybe it will take a serious security breach somewhere to make people realize that 7 is a more secure OS than XP. Have to give it some credit though, it lasted way longer than many thought it would and some will continue to run it even if there is zero support from MS..

 

[Red Squirrel]

Most news companies also run XP, sometimes you can see the default XP screensaver on machines in the background. :biggrin: You would think they'd have their own custom screensaver though... I've even see the default XP background. Have to be a geek to notice those things. Wait, what's this about a storm coming, I missed it because I was busy looking at the background computers. :biggrin:

 

[wholesalestunna]

bliss.jpg

 

[nemesismk2]

Microsoft you should release Service Pack 4 for Windows XP from all of the updates which i was forced to download online.

Actually most of the updates were to fix the rubbish Internet Explorer 8 even though i have not used it in years.

 

[ninaholic37]

Microsoft you should release Service Pack 4 for Windows XP from all of the updates which i was forced to download online.

Actually most of the updates were to fix the rubbish Internet Explorer 8 even though i have not used it in years.

That would be nice. I just restored my XP laptop to factory settings (+SP3 from MS site) and "Add/Remove Programs" looks so much cleaner without a zillion IE patches showing up. I don't think I'll turn on Automatic Updates at all this time (looks like if you don't ever touch the Automatic Updates settings after install, none of it's options are selected, which is less intrusive than the Red/Off warning on the taskbar all the time ). Let's see how many "reverse engineered patch exploits" have been released to the wild since SP3's relase (May 2008) that can penetrate my machine browsing Pale Moon 6-12 hours a day on a standard profile with no anti-virus. I'll report back to this thread in a year (December 1st 2014).

 

[nemesismk2]

That would be nice. I just restored my XP laptop to factory settings (+SP3 from MS site) and "Add/Remove Programs" looks so much cleaner without a zillion IE patches showing up. I don't think I'll turn on Automatic Updates at all this time (looks like if you don't ever touch the Automatic Updates settings after install, none of it's options are selected, which is less intrusive than the Red/Off warning on the taskbar all the time ). Let's see how many "reverse engineered patch exploits" have been released to the wild since SP3's relase (May 2008) that can penetrate my machine browsing Pale Moon 6-12 hours a day on a standard profile with no anti-virus. I'll report back to this thread in a year (December 1st 2014).

I personally wouldn't run a computer without an anti virus.

 

[ninaholic37]

Heh. Apparently Microsoft has posted ~500 "Security Bulletins" so far since SP3. Not all of them apply to XP, but it is interesting to see what all the patched vulnerabilities are for:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/dn481339

Perhaps it would be possible to just upload all the XP ones into a zip file and add a batch file to run them all in chronological order (moving/renaming each patch as they run as marker of where you are) from a command line? It looks like there are many home-made post-SP3 packs released by people already also, so I'm guessing there will be many places to find home-brew "SP4" equivilant with all post-SP3 patches in April. Apparently you can also slipstream the post-SP3 patches into the actual Windows XP installer for fresh installs too. Looks like there are lots of options for people who don't want to take the Windows Updates route.

 

[Raduque]

God I can't wait. Using XP is terrible after using a modern OS for so long (Vista, then 7).

 

[ninaholic37]

God I can't wait. Using XP is terrible after using a modern OS for so long (Vista, then 7).

How so? I've had Windows 7 on four laptops, and for me, I don't think there are many things worse (from a usability standpoint) in XP. I'd say they both have an equal share of strengths and annoyances so I'd probably give them a tie in the end, or say that XP might have a slight edge over Windows 7 overall if I add up all the little things.

 

[glugglug]

Add in another, my Dr's office is still running XP, maybe it will take a serious security breach somewhere to make people realize that 7 is a more secure OS than XP. Have to give it some credit though, it lasted way longer than many thought it would and some will continue to run it even if there is zero support from MS..

For anything related to the medical industry, XP is insanely advanced.

FWIW most hospitals and doctors offices recently upgraded to Windows 9X. I was surprised to notice last time we were at LIJ Northshore for example that all the computers were running Windows 98 rather than 95 or earlier. Many places are still running 3.1.

The odd man out I would say is the MTA vending machines and displays, which when they crash you can see are all running Windows NT (some 3.51 some 4.0).