Is it safe to buy plasmas these days?

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funboy6942

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Tifababy
No, the half life of plasmas is somewhere around 10 years I believe. Which means they will be half as bright in 10 years. DLPs have bulbs which can burn out in 3-4 years. I'm not sure of any drawbacks of LCDs right now, other than screen door effect.

Same light bulb issue with LCDs.

I have a DLP Projector and a Bulb for it is $250. So divide that into 3 years time and then per day and you get its low cost. Plus I can do 60" or 300" and NO I dont have to have a completly dark room either to watch it. No burn in issues and you can get a 106" screen and a HD projector shipped for under $1200. Last I looked they didnt make a 100" Plasma anywhere close to $1200 :p

Ha, there, you happy I changed it Yoyo :p
:D
 

vi edit

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The only complaint I have about my plasma is that the high gloss screen is subject to glare. But that's fairly well documented. The only time it bothers me is early in the mornings on the weekend when the sun is overpowering the curtains.

I think LCD/DLP is a little better, but then you give up viewing angles. I also think the plasma is a little better for full light viewing than the others. Colors seemed more vibrant on plasma than they did on the others.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Tifababy
No, the half life of plasmas is somewhere around 10 years I believe. Which means they will be half as bright in 10 years. DLPs have bulbs which can burn out in 3-4 years. I'm not sure of any drawbacks of LCDs right now, other than screen door effect.

Same light bulb issue with LCDs.

I have a DLP Projector and a Bulb for it is $250. So divide that into 3 years time and then per day and you get its low cost. Plus I can do 60" or 300" and NO I dont have to have a completly dark room either to watch it. No burn in issues and you can get a 106" screen and a HD projector shipped for under $1200. Last I looked they didnt make a 100" Plasma :p
You're right, they make a 103". :p

Edit: Ah, YOyo beat me to it.
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Tifababy
No, the half life of plasmas is somewhere around 10 years I believe. Which means they will be half as bright in 10 years. DLPs have bulbs which can burn out in 3-4 years. I'm not sure of any drawbacks of LCDs right now, other than screen door effect.

Same light bulb issue with LCDs.

I have a DLP Projector and a Bulb for it is $250. So divide that into 3 years time and then per day and you get its low cost. Plus I can do 60" or 300" and NO I dont have to have a completly dark room either to watch it. No burn in issues and you can get a 106" screen and a HD projector shipped for under $1200. Last I looked they didnt make a 100" Plasma :p
You're right, they make a 103". :p

Edit: Ah, YOyo beat me to it.

Ok you got me on that one BUT can I get it for $999 or do I need to sell my Corvette Z06 to get it? ;) :eek: :D
And ok how about 300" that my DLP projector can do, huh, hmmmm, ha ha ha :eek: ;) :p :D
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Tifababy
No, the half life of plasmas is somewhere around 10 years I believe. Which means they will be half as bright in 10 years. DLPs have bulbs which can burn out in 3-4 years. I'm not sure of any drawbacks of LCDs right now, other than screen door effect.

Same light bulb issue with LCDs.

I have a DLP Projector and a Bulb for it is $250. So divide that into 3 years time and then per day and you get its low cost. Plus I can do 60" or 300" and NO I dont have to have a completly dark room either to watch it. No burn in issues and you can get a 106" screen and a HD projector shipped for under $1200. Last I looked they didnt make a 100" Plasma :p
You're right, they make a 103". :p

Edit: Ah, YOyo beat me to it.

Ok you got me on that one BUT can I get it for $999 or do I need to sell my Corvette Z06 to get it? ;) :eek: :D
And ok how about 300" that my DLP projector can do, huh, hmmmm, ha ha ha :eek: ;) :p :D

Dude, I don't even have a 300" WALL. What, are you planning to run your own drive-in movie theater? ;)

 

igowerf

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I recently bought a 42" Samsung plasma after returning their 40" 1080p LCD. 1080p is great, but from 7 feet away, I noticed the LCD's lack of contrast more than the plasma's lower resolution. I plan on keeping this plasma until SED or something similar comes out.
 

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Originally posted by: Imdmn04
LCD>plasma

I would say only if you were planning on hooking up a computer to it. Otherwise, for typical movie and TV viewing I just find the colors on a plasma much more natural.

When viewing side by side, I always favor the plasma. I'm not sold and don't care about 1080p. I think it's mostly marketing hype and not largely beneficial to a 42" screen. Bigger, maybe so. But my room size just doesn't support a larger screen.
 

pontifex

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man, no wonder people have such a hard time figuring out what tv to buy. everyone has different answers...
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Tifababy
No, the half life of plasmas is somewhere around 10 years I believe. Which means they will be half as bright in 10 years. DLPs have bulbs which can burn out in 3-4 years. I'm not sure of any drawbacks of LCDs right now, other than screen door effect.

Same light bulb issue with LCDs.

I have a DLP Projector and a Bulb for it is $250. So divide that into 3 years time and then per day and you get its low cost. Plus I can do 60" or 300" and NO I dont have to have a completly dark room either to watch it. No burn in issues and you can get a 106" screen and a HD projector shipped for under $1200. Last I looked they didnt make a 100" Plasma :p
You're right, they make a 103". :p

Edit: Ah, YOyo beat me to it.

Ok you got me on that one BUT can I get it for $999 or do I need to sell my Corvette Z06 to get it? ;) :eek: :D
And ok how about 300" that my DLP projector can do, huh, hmmmm, ha ha ha :eek: ;) :p :D

Dude, I don't even have a 300" WALL. What, are you planning to run your own drive-in movie theater? ;)

Neither do I, I run it at 100" BUT I do want to get some cheap white kicg size bed sheets this spring and take it outside and do a drive in thing. It would be the sh!t and I think my kids would really get a kick out of it.

Just thought I would also kick another option out there since your not keeping ti for that long. Projectors are cheap and one day you want a 60 inch you can, another you want 150, you can. With DLP you dont have to worry about a damn thing. Watch what ever you want when you want, bulb prices really isnt that bad when you think about what your getting and if you get it from HERE (the HD70 HD Projerctor)
at check out you can get a 3 year bulb warranty for $99 with 2 replacement bulbs in that time frame. So you can watch the hell out o fit and not have to worry about a $300 ($600 since you get 2) bulb for 3 years straight. Lots of tv watching ;)
 

Jmman

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I generally agree with what has been said in here. I think Plasma are great for movies and tv, but I would be a little worried about gaming on one. As far as resolution goes, mine as well as most 42 HDTV plasmas are 1024 x 768, but I truthfilly would nto get too hung up on specs. Pick one that looks good to you......
 

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I recently bought a 42" ED plasma. DVD's look spectacular and over the air HD feeds look just as good. Cable and my recent switch to Sattelite feeds are not as good, but they aren't HD feeds either. Basically go to the store and compare the HD to the ED tvs and then compare the prices. It was about 20% more for HD and the difference was not noticeable.
 

ebaycj

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Tifababy
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: RossMAN
What size and $ are you looking at?

42 incher

I would be very careful in buying a Plasma TV in that size range. Many are low resolution...some of them aren't even HD.

Yeah you want to avoid EDTV resolutions which I think is 1024x768

What if you could buy this Panasonic 42" Plasma for only $999?

I hope you have warm clothes, comfortable shoes and a foldable chair :thumbsup:

Or you could order it online today from CircuitCity.com for $1,299 - 10% coupon - free shipping to your home = $1,169

EDTV is something like 852x480, so it's able to display 480p dvds, but has to scale down HDTV feeds. 1024x768, is kind of considered hdtv, since it can display the 720 lines for 720p, but it can't display the 1280 horizontal pixels, 1024x768 is either a 4:3 display or it has rectangle pixels (not ideal) instead of square.

Insert comment about how DVDs are 480i here :p

I thought DVD is 480P ?
 

LS20

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dvds are encoded in 480i... dvd players can upconvert to progressive mode (and higher resolution)
 

microAmp

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I love my Panasonic 42PX60U. No burn in to worry about, image retention does happen if I watch 4:3 stuff w/o being stretched and later go to HD channel and with a commerical having a white background.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: ebaycj
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Tifababy
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: RossMAN
What size and $ are you looking at?

42 incher

I would be very careful in buying a Plasma TV in that size range. Many are low resolution...some of them aren't even HD.

Yeah you want to avoid EDTV resolutions which I think is 1024x768

What if you could buy this Panasonic 42" Plasma for only $999?

I hope you have warm clothes, comfortable shoes and a foldable chair :thumbsup:

Or you could order it online today from CircuitCity.com for $1,299 - 10% coupon - free shipping to your home = $1,169

EDTV is something like 852x480, so it's able to display 480p dvds, but has to scale down HDTV feeds. 1024x768, is kind of considered hdtv, since it can display the 720 lines for 720p, but it can't display the 1280 horizontal pixels, 1024x768 is either a 4:3 display or it has rectangle pixels (not ideal) instead of square.

Insert comment about how DVDs are 480i here :p

I thought DVD is 480P ?

Originally posted by: LS20
dvds are encoded in 480i... dvd players can upconvert to progressive mode (and higher resolution)

yup
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Tifababy
No, the half life of plasmas is somewhere around 10 years I believe. Which means they will be half as bright in 10 years. DLPs have bulbs which can burn out in 3-4 years. I'm not sure of any drawbacks of LCDs right now, other than screen door effect.

Same light bulb issue with LCDs.

I have a DLP Projector and a Bulb for it is $250. So divide that into 3 years time and then per day and you get its low cost. Plus I can do 60" or 300" and NO I dont have to have a completly dark room either to watch it. No burn in issues and you can get a 106" screen and a HD projector shipped for under $1200. Last I looked they didnt make a 100" Plasma :p
You're right, they make a 103". :p

Edit: Ah, YOyo beat me to it.

:evil:

102" is my lucky size though :laugh:
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: vi_editI think LCD/DLP is a little better, but then you give up viewing angles. I also think the plasma is a little better for full light viewing than the others. Colors seemed more vibrant on plasma than they did on the others.
Why are people so concerned about extreme viewing angles? Are you planning on watching TV from somewhere other than in front of it?

I have a 720P Samsung DLP, and it looks exactly the same from a VERY wide angle. In fact, I have a love seat to on the side wall that is probably 40 degrees to the side of the picture, and it looks fine, doesn't degrade at all.

I wouldn't watch TV from any farther to the side than that.

I just see people always chime in talking about the viewing angles....they are irrelevant to me. I don't care if I can stand beside the TV, and look around to watch it.

 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: vi_editI think LCD/DLP is a little better, but then you give up viewing angles. I also think the plasma is a little better for full light viewing than the others. Colors seemed more vibrant on plasma than they did on the others.
Why are people so concerned about extreme viewing angles? Are you planning on watching TV from somewhere other than in front of it?

I have a 720P Samsung DLP, and it looks exactly the same from a VERY wide angle. In fact, I have a love seat to on the side wall that is probably 40 degrees to the side of the picture, and it looks fine, doesn't degrade at all.

I wouldn't watch TV from any farther to the side than that.

I just see people always chime in talking about the viewing angles....they are irrelevant to me. I don't care if I can stand beside the TV, and look around to watch it.

well then you should see how good a plasma looks. They totally own every DLP out ther in terms of quality.

If you want superior color and black level then plasma is the only choice. So for the tops in quality, plasma reigns supreme.
 

Chaotic42

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I have a 1080i 42" plasma TV and I haven't seen any burn in issues.

There will be ghosting, but don't freak out about it. It's normal and it will go away. That said, I would not leave the same image on the TV for a very long time (I'm overly cautious about that).

The picture of a plasma TV is truly awesome.
 

vi edit

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I've got a very shallow living room with a second couch far off center. Viewing angle was a factor. I wanted to get the best for the situation. Plasma just happens to offer that over LCD's (DLP wasn't a consideration) along with what I feel is a better image for the type of content that I primarily view.

It's not *the* reason to buy a plasma, but's *a* reason.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I have a 1080i 42" plasma TV and I haven't seen any burn in issues.

There will be ghosting, but don't freak out about it. It's normal and it will go away. That said, I would not leave the same image on the TV for a very long time (I'm overly cautious about that).

The picture of a plasma TV is truly awesome.
I think you're talking about image retention.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I have a 1080i 42" plasma TV and I haven't seen any burn in issues.

There will be ghosting, but don't freak out about it. It's normal and it will go away. That said, I would not leave the same image on the TV for a very long time (I'm overly cautious about that).

The picture of a plasma TV is truly awesome.
I think you're talking about image retention.

Yeah, I wasn't sure of the exact term for it.