Is it safe to assume Google Buzz is a flop?

[StageLeft]

Wow, IE is getting killed.

 

[Rangoric]

That article is wrong. My company actually tracks web browser usage pretty closely for dev reasons. This is a more accurate chart:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Firefox market share has actually been going down for the last year. Last projections I saw was they were expecting Chrome and Firefox to have growth somewhere around 20% by years end.

w3schools being more accurate? That's a first for that chart that I've ever heard. Normally it isn't useful because it is only THEIR website.

W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies. These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the average user. The average user tends to use Internet Explorer, since it comes preinstalled with Windows. Most do not seek out other browsers.

 

[mjrpes3]

That article is wrong. My company actually tracks web browser usage pretty closely for dev reasons. This is a more accurate chart:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Firefox market share has actually been going down for the last year. Last projections I saw was they were expecting Chrome and Firefox to have growth somewhere around 20% by years end.

Again, please link to where you saw these projections because I'm curious of their rationale.

 

[Leros]

My Korean friends use it all the time. I assume they're talking to other Koreans because everything they post is in Korean. So maybe its popular over there?

 

[Fritzo]

Again, please link to where you saw these projections because I'm curious of their rationale.

There's a lot of different projections out there. The ones from the website I posted were consistant with our web portal readings. Here's some other views and proof of Chrome's growth:

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Applicatio...s-6-Market-Share-Could-Hit-10-in-2010-597889/

http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0&qptimeframe=M&qpsp=133

http://www.cio.com/article/559264/F..._Running?source=CIONLE_nlt_insider_2010-03-02

etc

 

[RichieZ]

Um...Chrome, Android, and Apps are some of it's biggest successes. Not sure where you got failure out of those. Android phones are flying off the shelves and making smartphones "must haves" for everyone, Google Apps is replacing MS Exchange in corporations and governments nationwide, and Chrome is gaining marketshare while pushing Firefox's numbers out. In fact, I think I read somewhere it's supposed to become the #2 browser sometime this year.

Where's the fail?

um yea so they bought andriod and maps

 

[Fritzo]

um yea so they bought andriod and maps

Apps, not Maps. Big difference.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

All i want to know is, where the fuck is sea dragon?!?!

 

[mjrpes3]

There's a lot of different projections out there. The ones from the website I posted were consistant with our web portal readings. Here's some other views and proof of Chrome's growth:

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Applicatio...s-6-Market-Share-Could-Hit-10-in-2010-597889/

http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0&qptimeframe=M&qpsp=133

http://www.cio.com/article/559264/F..._Running?source=CIONLE_nlt_insider_2010-03-02

etc

No doubt Chrome userbase is increasing.

But those articles project growth only for Chrome, not Firefox. Chrome could hit 10% by the end of the year. But the trend for Firefox is for growth to remain flat to at worst 1 or 2 points down. That still leave Firefox at 23% and Chrome at 10% by the end of the year, with the biggest losses coming from IE (as that's what the trend is).

You won't see Chrome becoming #2 for at least another two years at best, assuming the current trends continue.

 

[Gooberlx2]

The first one from Genentech doesn't even sound like a real company. I'm sure it's from a movie 🙂

I've worked on a couple of their pharma studies. They're a sizable company.

In addition to companies, I'm pretty sure a number of universities have switched, as well as simple users (like myself) who desire to use gmail with their own domains.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Buzz got beaten down by Twitter and Facebook from the start. It was a mere integration of Facebook's initial "share" into Gmail. So? People stay on FAcebook 24/7 and watch the live feeds now. And with APIs to include dozens of other popular websites, Facebook is really taking the stage.

Twitter has a tough time competing because essentially you need to spend your time copying and pasting a link. Facebook is almost built into a site now that it's a click on a "Like" or "Share" button and you're good to go. Buzz didn't get that help.

 

[clamum]

I spent more time watching the Google Wave developer preview (2 hours!) than actually using it (like 10 mins).

LOL, pretty much exactly my thoughts. I watched the preview and thought it could be very useful, especially for collaborative work at schools or workplaces (my current work included), but haven't really bothered to do anything with it except send out invites here on AT, hahaha.

 

[Patranus]

Google does 1 thing well and that is search and by extension advertising.

Google is a 1 trick poney.

Once the next "big thing" in search arrives, google is toast.

 

[ElFenix]

Just wait until state laws say it is against the law for government and financial companies to do cloud computing.

Massachusetts and Nevada are already enforcing mobile encryption.

there are already issues with storing client data in the cloud.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

That article is wrong. My company actually tracks web browser usage pretty closely for dev reasons. This is a more accurate chart:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Firefox market share has actually been going down for the last year. Last projections I saw was they were expecting Chrome and Firefox to have growth somewhere around 20% by years end.

Is this like those Smartphone marketshare graphs that show sales and then another one shows web traffic by AdMobs, so some people safely assume that iPhones and iPod touchs rule 50% of the market? But in reality RIM is still huge in the US?

So whats the difference between those two metrics of browser marketshare?

 

[AstroManLuca]

Not as big of a flop as Wave.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

i like buzz, but i dont use twitter or facebook

 

[PepePeru]

yeah, at this point it would appear so.

Orkut never caught on here but it is huge in Brazil and India, for whatever reason.

 

[Aharami]

heh. i'd forgotten about it until now. used it for a day then disabled it

 

[SportSC4]

I've used buzz a few times on my n85, kinda fun but use it with my spam email address. you have to use your full name to post buzz and that's something i won't do.
it really seems like twitter with gps coordinates overlaid on google maps. pretty decent in finding out local things/events/etc

 

[Elganja]

i still use with a bunch of my friends

 

[mfenn]

yeah, at this point it would appear so.

Orkut never caught on here but it is huge in Brazil and India, for whatever reason.

Critical mass. The main draw of a social network is that other people you know are on it. Once a site reaches the point where most people are on it, then it becomes very hard to dethrone (see how long it has taken Facebook to beat Myspace). I would suspect that it's somewhat random as to which network will reach that point in any given market first.

 

[gaidensensei]

For social networking, like I said in that guy's google thread, only reason facebook is up there is because they've kept on adding features to keep the people mindlessly occupied. Half a decade ago they were barren and had really nothing, since it was limited to people on .edu addresses only. Previous foes (Friendster/Myspace/Ringo/Linkedin etc) fell because of their inefficacy trap their users.

Not sure what else there is left at this point to defeat them.

When the next social networking site includes real time chat / service to mobile phones or sms'ing, maybe that's the facebook killer if they don't do it first.

 

[fallenangel99]

I meant to include Nexus One (totally forgot about this!) to Google's recent failures

 

[thomsbrain]

The problem with Buzz was that it didn't have any default filtering for people who aren't your friends. I looked at it once and the map was filled with bullshit from random people that I don't care about it. Why would that interest me?

I own stock in Google, and even I will say that Buzz was retarded.