Is it really true that the climate change disaster is caused by……

[Moonbeam]

…. a lack of contact with nature as well as a decline in mental health? This article suggests so:

Human connection to nature has declined 60% in 200 years, study finds

Prof Miles Richardson says people risk ‘extinction of experience’ in the natural world without new policies

www.theguardian.com

I have believed for a long time that the disruption of the use of the human capacities developed to survive in the natural world over million of years contributes to an inner sense of emptiness that creates an unconscious state of malaise, a longing for something we do not know we are lacking. But really, could such a lack of contact with nature be the main cause of why we have climate change?

I don’t have much contact these days with nature these days due to the incredibly inflated land values where I, by accident, happened to buy early on in that mad inflationary spiral, but hey, on top of being exempted from paying my fair share of taxes because laws were passed that I voted against, is it really true I’m the reason the natural world is dying. Tell me it isn’t so. It can’t be so. How much guilt can a person bear? Fuck it. Let it die. I have every right to deny.

And anyway, where’s the proof? Is this horrible link really true?

No wonder people are seeking the comfort of quack spirituality. Thank God I am just one of those big ego sardines stuffed into my tiny urban can. Shall we hold fins?

Was there really was an ocean somewhere in the past and I can’t remember because my head became cat food? A saying from the Book of Schooled Tuna.

 

[hal2kilo]

…. a lack of contact with nature as well as a decline in mental health? This article suggests so:

Human connection to nature has declined 60% in 200 years, study finds

Prof Miles Richardson says people risk ‘extinction of experience’ in the natural world without new policies

www.theguardian.com

I have believed for a long time that the disruption of the use of the human capacities developed to survive in the natural world over million of years contributes to an inner sense of emptiness that creates an unconscious state of malaise, a longing for something we do not know we are lacking. But really, could such a lack of contact with nature be the main cause of why we have climate change?

I don’t have much contact these days with nature these days due to the incredibly inflated land values where I, by accident, happened to buy early on in that mad inflationary spiral, but hey, on top of being exempted from paying my fair share of taxes because laws were passed that I voted against, is it really true I’m the reason the natural world is dying. Tell me it isn’t so. It can’t be so. How much guilt can a person bear? Fuck it. Let it die. I have every right to deny.

And anyway, where’s the proof? Is this horrible link really true?

No wonder people are seeking the comfort of quack spirituality. Thank God I am just one of those big ego sardines stuffed into my tiny urban can. Shall we hold fins?

Was there really was an ocean somewhere in the past and I can’t remember because my head became cat food? A saying from the Book of Schooled Tuna.

I go walk in my cathedral of trees as often as possible.

 

[dullard]

Is it really true that the climate change disaster is caused by……​

…. a lack of contact with nature as well as a decline in mental health? This article suggests so:

How does an article that does not use the word "climate" or "temperature" or "global" or "warming" any similar wording suggest something about climate change?

Hiking in the mountains is my spiritual place. I do this as often as I can. I also spend tons of times in trees, on lakes, etc. Yes, there probably is a decline in mental health when we lose things like the connection to nature. But, still, how does that possibly suggest it is a cause of a climate change disaster?

 

[Pontius Dilate]

How does an article that does not use the word "climate" or "temperature" or "global" or "warming" any similar wording suggest something about climate change?

Hiking in the mountains is my spiritual place. I do this as often as I can. I also spend tons of times in trees, on lakes, etc. Yes, there probably is a decline in mental health when we lose things like the connection to nature. But, still, how does that possibly suggest it is a cause of a climate change disaster?

That Guardian article is about a paper by that Richardson guy in which his intro states:

"Global environmental changes, driven by urbanisation and land-use shifts, have reduced opportunities for individuals to experience nature and diminished their orientation toward the natural world. This has resulted in a disconnection from nature, particularly in the Western world, that is now recognised by the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services (IPBES) as a causal factor in the environmental crises of biodiversity loss and climate change [1]."

So not accurate to say those environmental crises are caused by disconnectedness, rather it is one causal factor in these crises.

 

[Moonbeam]

How does an article that does not use the word "climate" or "temperature" or "global" or "warming" any similar wording suggest something about climate change?

Hiking in the mountains is my spiritual place. I do this as often as I can. I also spend tons of times in trees, on lakes, etc. Yes, there probably is a decline in mental health when we lose things like the connection to nature. But, still, how does that possibly suggest it is a cause of a climate change disaster?

This is in quotes in the article:

“Nature connectedness is now accepted as a key root cause of the environmental crisis,” said Richardson. “It’s vitally important for our own mental health as well. It unites people and nature’s wellbeing. There’s a need for transformational change if we’re going to change society’s relationship with nature.”

Maybe I was just projecting my own self hate as the reason why I felt accused of destroying all life on earth, but when I read 'environmental crisis' in the quote above the biggest environmental crisis that came to my mind was species extinction caused by global warming. Living things that took thousands and millions of years of evolution to create are disappearing at an accelerating rate. To me this is no walk in the park issue.

At 10,000 feet and above in the high Sierras where your sweat dries in minutes I used to carry a cup on my belt to catch glacial snow melt and would drink gallons of water a day. The glaciers are gone and giardia is everywhere, that wonderful experience gone like the thousands of robins that used to get drunk on pyracantha berries that used to line the streets. Imagine if the water barrels on sailing ships hadn't brought mosquitoes to Hawaii imagine laying down at night in the crater of a volcano half opened by erosion by the sea and watching a meteor shower. Thank God for an onshore breeze. Imagine a sky so dark and a meteor shower so dense that the sky is full of thousands of tiny glowing worms. The sidewalks and stuck to gether houses of the avenues in San Francisco I can still remember but they fade in comparisson to seeing garder shakes in Golden Gate Park, not to mention buffalow.

Did you read about the villagers Trump is paying off for land in Viet Nam to build a golf complex? I remember Johnathan Winters saying get those stiffs off my land.

You said"Hiking in the mountains is my spiritual place." I remember sitting by Mirror Lake in Yosemite National Park, Half Dome reflected in the water back when there was a lake to to view the world upside down. A father and mother came up the trail and say me sitting there the image of the image mirrored in by acid high brain as their two boys began to scream, I see it, I see it they competatively proclaimed. And when I looked at them I saw they surrounded by a cloud of black flies. Amd down from the valley extending up the flowing stream or small river that filled the lake there also came a vibration that filled my being. Wierd being some sort of note on an octave. Spiritual sounds right.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

“Nature connectedness is now accepted as a key root cause of the environmental crisis,” said Richardson. “It’s vitally important for our own mental health as well. It unites people and nature’s wellbeing. There’s a need for transformational change if we’re going to change society’s relationship with nature.”

I mean, no. Turning fossil fuels into free co2 is the root cause of our present environmental crisis (as long as the one we're referring to is the elevating global temperatures).

If it's some boogie-woogie separation from our natural world, sure. I wouldn't call that a crisis though.

 

[Moonbeam]

I mean, no. Turning fossil fuels into free co2 is the root cause of our present environmental crisis (as long as the one we're referring to is the elevating global temperatures).

If it's some boogie-woogie separation from our natural world, sure. I wouldn't call that a crisis though.

The issue I see is having enough consciousness to have at your emotional core sufficient love of life to wish to do what is needed for all things good to survive. That would be both love for others as well as the natural world. If this is a valid and meaningful way to see things, then it seems to me that those who feel that way would oppose the burning of fossil fuels and legislation to eliminate their use beyond what nature can adequately sequester or humans artificially can.

I would call the development of such a consciousness and the benefits attendant to it a vital spiritual endeavor. There would be no boogie-woogie about it.

We will either evolve consciously or go extinct in my opinion. A look at the world should tell you the direction, so far, we are headed.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

The issue I see is having enough consciousness to have at your emotional core sufficient love of life to wish to do what is needed for all things good to survive. That would be both love for others as well as the natural world. If this is a valid and meaningful way to see things, then it seems to me that those who feel that way would oppose the burning of fossil fuels and legislation to eliminate their use beyond what nature can adequately sequester or humans artificially can.

I would call the development of such a consciousness and the benefits attendant to it a vital spiritual endeavor. There would be no boogie-woogie about it.

We will either evolve consciously or go extinct in my opinion. A look at the world should tell you the direction, so far, we are headed.

If half the planet became off-the-grid hunter-gatherer smelly hippies, it would not stop the coming apocalypse. If 90% of the planet did this, it would not stop the coming apocalypse. The environmental crisis is over, and it won. No future connectedness is going to halt what is to come, and there won't be much left of nature to connect with when it does.

 

[Moonbeam]

If half the planet became off-the-grid hunter-gatherer smelly hippies, it would not stop the coming apocalypse. If 90% of the planet did this, it would not stop the coming apocalypse. The environmental crisis is over, and it won. No future connectedness is going to halt what is to come, and there won't be much left of nature to connect with when it does.

You haven’t been listening to Moonbeam. Have you not heard him tell you that you create what you fear, that Christian’s, for example will pervert their prayer to bring to earth what is in heaven via the unconscious awareness that if you believe you are a sinner you will destroy the world denying it’s how you feel.

This is the great paradox of truth, that to know it requires that you see a catch 22. To unconsciously hate yourself is also to be unaware that the function of one's unconsciousness is to prevent conscious suffering of that pan, and because the whole process proceeds autonomously as well as unconsciously there is no conscious awareness it is possible to escape which amounts to living in an unconscious state of despair, and thus the death wish to escape.

Have you not heard the expression, be careful what you wish for. This is why.

 

[HomerJS]

According to conservatives gay people are the cause

 

[Moonbeam]

According to conservatives gay people are the cause

Not sure about that. I thought a conservative wouldn’t blame climate change on anything because they do not believe climate change is happening. It’s just today’s weather.

 

[Greenman]

If half the planet became off-the-grid hunter-gatherer smelly hippies, it would not stop the coming apocalypse. If 90% of the planet did this, it would not stop the coming apocalypse. The environmental crisis is over, and it won. No future connectedness is going to halt what is to come, and there won't be much left of nature to connect with when it does.

There is a certain freedom in knowing the end is upon us. No more struggle, no more worry, no more argument. Our expiration date is fast approaching and there is nothing to be done. Enjoy the time you have left.

 

[fskimospy]

There is a certain freedom in knowing the end is upon us. No more struggle, no more worry, no more argument. Our expiration date is fast approaching and there is nothing to be done. Enjoy the time you have left.

I do love how seamless the right wing transition on climate change was.

We very quickly and quietly went from ‘climate change is a liberal hoax’ to ‘death is inevitable. Embrace the horror.’

 

[brycejones]

There is a certain freedom in knowing the end is upon us. No more struggle, no more worry, no more argument. Our expiration date is fast approaching and there is nothing to be done. Enjoy the time you have left.

This is a really weird way to tell your kids you're sorry your generation choose to ignore science and keep fucking up the planet for them.

 

[fskimospy]

This is a really weird way to tell your kids you're sorry your generation choose to ignore science and keep fucking up the planet for them.

That’s the thing though - they aren’t sorry. If they were sorry they would do whatever they could now to mitigate the harm they caused. Instead the most selfish generation in history will go out the way they came in, screeching ‘me, me, me’.