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Originally posted by: Weeeman
Who wants to see there parent going into debt for the first time as they enter there 50's? I sure don't.

It's not really your problem.

She only has to deal with you until the end of the summer when (hopefully) you'll be leaving for college. If that's the case, then maybe she's waiting for you to move out before she starts to get her life in order.

I'm sure her life will be a little bit easier without having two sons to fully support.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Weeeman

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: Weeeman

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: WeeemanI'm not trying to be ungrateful.
I help all that I can, money that I make now is going for everyday stuff and not to a computer, money that isn't helping out is going towards college next year.

Honestly, she has had better job offers, she doesn't want to leave the seminary.

Choosing your line of work isn't all about making enough money to make your adult children happy... This is probably something you'll understand better, when you are her age.

Leave her alone. She understands her situation exponentially more than you do.

I already said I'm helping out as much as I can.

It's obviously not a great job enviromentaly[sp?is that a word?] If she has to work with my dad who she "cant stand" after being married 19 years

I'm sorry I dont see how it isn't atleast partially about money when she comes home and complains about the LACK of money in the house.

ALL working class people complain about the lack of money, especially those with teenage boys.
Dude, if it's that important to you to see the GP's, SELL some of your stuff and CONTRIBUTE!
But stuff the complaining where we can't hear it. It's shameful of you.

I really don't have much to sell for anything that would bring a decent amount of cash in.

I have a computer yes, who doesn't? I put it together because our dell crapped out and I find it easier to do work on it. [Yes and enjoy games while not in school/work] I suppose I could sell my video card, and get a cheaper one, but selling the entire thing off would mean buying something new in a few months to get me through college.


I didn't mean to be like "#*%#% get a better job" or anything of that sort.

Ofcourse it is hard to support 2 children, a good size house, keep up a decent social life etc, I understand that.

Who wants to see there parent going into debt for the first time as they enter there 50's? I sure don't.

Have you ever stopped to consider that there might be reasons that your mom suffers the humilation of staying at her current job? Reasons like pension restrictions ? reasons like she has a 17 yr old and is afraid of making fiscal changes that could impact on your college aide package to say nothing of being around even less for you if she's out job hunting/starting a new position.

 

[Weeeman]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: Weeeman

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: Weeeman

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: WeeemanI'm not trying to be ungrateful.
I help all that I can, money that I make now is going for everyday stuff and not to a computer, money that isn't helping out is going towards college next year.

Honestly, she has had better job offers, she doesn't want to leave the seminary.

Choosing your line of work isn't all about making enough money to make your adult children happy... This is probably something you'll understand better, when you are her age.

Leave her alone. She understands her situation exponentially more than you do.

I already said I'm helping out as much as I can.

It's obviously not a great job enviromentaly[sp?is that a word?] If she has to work with my dad who she "cant stand" after being married 19 years

I'm sorry I dont see how it isn't atleast partially about money when she comes home and complains about the LACK of money in the house.

ALL working class people complain about the lack of money, especially those with teenage boys.
Dude, if it's that important to you to see the GP's, SELL some of your stuff and CONTRIBUTE!
But stuff the complaining where we can't hear it. It's shameful of you.

I really don't have much to sell for anything that would bring a decent amount of cash in.

I have a computer yes, who doesn't? I put it together because our dell crapped out and I find it easier to do work on it. [Yes and enjoy games while not in school/work] I suppose I could sell my video card, and get a cheaper one, but selling the entire thing off would mean buying something new in a few months to get me through college.


I didn't mean to be like "#*%#% get a better job" or anything of that sort.

Ofcourse it is hard to support 2 children, a good size house, keep up a decent social life etc, I understand that.

Who wants to see there parent going into debt for the first time as they enter there 50's? I sure don't.

Then, young weeman, it is time to redouble your efforts to contribute to the household. Take a part time job, do yardwork for older people in the neighborhood, collect and sell mistletoe door to door before Christmas, ANYTHING, short of selling your body, to help out. It is far more noble to share the burden than to complain of it.
If you go to ANY merchant asking for a job "to help my Mom out with the bills" rather than "to buy a car, and PS2, and a train set..." you will be much more likely to get that job.
And I say ask Dad for the money. He should be contributing to the household as well, above and beyond what your mother is already getting. If he can afford a new wife, he should pay for his children , FIRST.

I can't sell my body? Damn, that plan is out the window.

Over the summer I was working as many hours as possible [10~12/day] at the seminary on the maintence crew [Got lucky and got the indoor job with airconditioning]
Working at Sam Goody now as much as I can [not exactly my first choice, but we don't exactly have much to choose from other than fastfood]
Assuming we are staying here for christmas I'm going to be working maintence again as much as possible over christmas, and then start up again in late april/may and work until school starts next year.

As far as moving out over the summer and going to college, sounds like a good plan and all, but right now it looks like I'm going to the community college for a year or 2 to get some credits in and it doesn't seem logical to me to move out yet. Ofcourse I'll help with rent and whatever else we decide I need to pay for, perhaps it will be easier to get a more 'Full time-ish' job when I schedule classes

 

[Weeeman]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Weeeman

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: Weeeman

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: WeeemanI'm not trying to be ungrateful.
I help all that I can, money that I make now is going for everyday stuff and not to a computer, money that isn't helping out is going towards college next year.

Honestly, she has had better job offers, she doesn't want to leave the seminary.

Choosing your line of work isn't all about making enough money to make your adult children happy... This is probably something you'll understand better, when you are her age.

Leave her alone. She understands her situation exponentially more than you do.

I already said I'm helping out as much as I can.

It's obviously not a great job enviromentaly[sp?is that a word?] If she has to work with my dad who she "cant stand" after being married 19 years

I'm sorry I dont see how it isn't atleast partially about money when she comes home and complains about the LACK of money in the house.

ALL working class people complain about the lack of money, especially those with teenage boys.
Dude, if it's that important to you to see the GP's, SELL some of your stuff and CONTRIBUTE!
But stuff the complaining where we can't hear it. It's shameful of you.

I really don't have much to sell for anything that would bring a decent amount of cash in.

I have a computer yes, who doesn't? I put it together because our dell crapped out and I find it easier to do work on it. [Yes and enjoy games while not in school/work] I suppose I could sell my video card, and get a cheaper one, but selling the entire thing off would mean buying something new in a few months to get me through college.


I didn't mean to be like "#*%#% get a better job" or anything of that sort.

Ofcourse it is hard to support 2 children, a good size house, keep up a decent social life etc, I understand that.

Who wants to see there parent going into debt for the first time as they enter there 50's? I sure don't.

Have you ever stopped to consider that there might be reasons that your mom suffers the humilation of staying at her current job? Reasons like pension restrictions ? reasons like she has a 17 yr old and is afraid of making fiscal changes that could impact on your college aide package to say nothing of being around even less for you if she's out job hunting/starting a new position.

Honestly? No.

The seminary had a rule that people who were married could not BOTH work full time at the seminary, so my mom was 'part time' until the divorce became final. She just became 'Full time' at the beginning of this school year, she wasn't receiving benifits until the beginning of this year

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Take a part time job, do yardwork for older people in the neighborhood, collect and sell mistletoe door to door before Christmas, ANYTHING, short of selling your body, to help out.

actually....

Plasma donation. 4 donations - ~$220.

 

[woowoo]

Forget about college
Join the navy
Send money home
(That's what I did)

 

[EndGame]

Instead of worrying about telling your mother (whom is doing what is best for you) she should quit and find a better paying job so that you can go on a trip for X-Mas, how about having a little understanding and compassion and telling your mother:

Mom, I understand your doing the very best you can for us and I understand a trip would put uneeded stress on finances so I think we should forget that and have the very best Christmas we can right here especially since both my brother and I are growing up and will be out on our own soon and then with our own families. Oh, and Mom, thanks for everything you've done for me and for taking care of me all these years......I sure do love you.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Take a part time job, do yardwork for older people in the neighborhood, collect and sell mistletoe door to door before Christmas, ANYTHING, short of selling your body, to help out.

actually....

Plasma donation. 4 donations - ~$220.

Unfortunately for weeman, you must be 18 in order to sell your blood. I believe he inferred he was 17

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: EndGame
Instead of worrying about telling your mother (whom is doing what is best for you) she should quit and find a better paying job so that you can go on a trip for X-Mas, how about having a little understanding and compassion and telling your mother:

Mom, I understand your doing the very best you can for us and I understand a trip would put uneeded stress on finances so I think we should forget that and have the very best Christmas we can right here especially since both my brother and I are growing up and will be out on our own soon and then with our own families. Oh, and Mom, thanks for everything you've done for me and for taking care of me all these years......I sure do love you.

Best thing I've read so far.
EndGame = Good Son

 

[Weeeman]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: EndGame
Instead of worrying about telling your mother (whom is doing what is best for you) she should quit and find a better paying job so that you can go on a trip for X-Mas, how about having a little understanding and compassion and telling your mother:

Mom, I understand your doing the very best you can for us and I understand a trip would put uneeded stress on finances so I think we should forget that and have the very best Christmas we can right here especially since both my brother and I are growing up and will be out on our own soon and then with our own families. Oh, and Mom, thanks for everything you've done for me and for taking care of me all these years......I sure do love you.

Best thing I've read so far.
EndGame = Good Son

Right, but I know how much shes done for my brother and I, and she knows that I appreciate it.
This isn't about having "teh bestest christmas EVAR"
It just comes as a shock when you realize how little cash there is in the house.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: jagec
actually....

Plasma donation. 4 donations - ~$220.

Unfortunately for weeman, you must be 18 in order to sell your blood. I believe he inferred he was 17

Suddenly my plan of having 20 kids and selling their bodily fluids to pay for my mansion is looking less likely...

 

[EndGame]

Originally posted by: Weeeman

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: EndGame
Instead of worrying about telling your mother (whom is doing what is best for you) she should quit and find a better paying job so that you can go on a trip for X-Mas, how about having a little understanding and compassion and telling your mother:

Mom, I understand your doing the very best you can for us and I understand a trip would put uneeded stress on finances so I think we should forget that and have the very best Christmas we can right here especially since both my brother and I are growing up and will be out on our own soon and then with our own families. Oh, and Mom, thanks for everything you've done for me and for taking care of me all these years......I sure do love you.

Best thing I've read so far.
EndGame = Good Son

Right, but I know how much shes done for my brother and I, and she knows that I appreciate it.
This isn't about having "teh bestest christmas EVAR"
It just comes as a shock when you realize how little cash there is in the house.

Sorry, hit the enter key to quick.


Weeman, in a few years you'll understand. Every time you think how bad things are and how short money is, take a look around or a drive in "poorer" areas of your location. I think you'll find things are pretty good! Your mom is doing what she believes is best for you.......trust her, she's gotten you this far right? Same thing with her job. I'm sure if it was as easy as just switching jobs for better money, she would have already done so.


Oh, and BTW.....I bet you're thinking to yourself right now: "These people just don't understand". Well, let me tell you this much, I lost my dad when I was 12 years old.......and he didn't leave for another woman or just get divorced and disappear, he died. I believe I have an idea what you're thinking. I'm much older now, but, looking back about the things I questioned that my mom did and the decsions she made when I was your age....I thought she was pretty silly, but, you know what......every year older I got, she seemed to get smarter and smarter......wonder how that happened?

 

[Weeeman]

Originally posted by: EndGame

Originally posted by: Weeeman

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: EndGame
Instead of worrying about telling your mother (whom is doing what is best for you) she should quit and find a better paying job so that you can go on a trip for X-Mas, how about having a little understanding and compassion and telling your mother:

Mom, I understand your doing the very best you can for us and I understand a trip would put uneeded stress on finances so I think we should forget that and have the very best Christmas we can right here especially since both my brother and I are growing up and will be out on our own soon and then with our own families. Oh, and Mom, thanks for everything you've done for me and for taking care of me all these years......I sure do love you.

Best thing I've read so far.
EndGame = Good Son

Right, but I know how much shes done for my brother and I, and she knows that I appreciate it.
This isn't about having "teh bestest christmas EVAR"
It just comes as a shock when you realize how little cash there is in the house.

Sorry, hit the enter key to quick.


Weeman, in a few years you'll understand. Every time you think how bad things are and how short money is, take a look around or a drive in "poorer" areas of your location. I think you'll find things are pretty good! Your mom is doing what she believes is best for you.......trust her, she's gotten you this far right? Same thing with her job. I'm sure if it was as easy as just switching jobs for better money, she would have already done so.


Oh, and BTW.....I bet you're thinking to yourself right now: "These people just don't understand". Well, let me tell you this much, I lost my dad when I was 12 years old.......and he didn't leave for another woman or just get divorced and disappear, he died. I believe I have an idea what you're thinking. I'm much older now, but, looking back about the things I questioned that my mom did and the decsions she made when I was your age....I thought she was pretty silly, but, you know what......every year older I got, she seemed to get smarter and smarter......wonder how that happened?

Good Point :thumbsup:

 

[Babbles]

I think some of you guys are giving this guy a bit too much grief. He is just a 17 year old kid in high school, it is not like he has a whole lot of resources to help mom out.

Something to keep in mind, Weeeman, if your mother keeps with a low paying job when it comes time for you to start school you have a good chance of getting some Pell Grants and/or other free money for college.
When my parents split up my younger brother was 18 and just started college and I recently graduated. I was, and still am, in debt from student loans and credit cards. However my mother, like yours, had a lower paying job and then when my brother went to apply for financial aid citing my mother's income he got a free ride to college plus some extra money each semester. Sucks me that I got $20k+ in debt and he was getting paid to go to school - until this past year when the budget crunches really hit the states.

Anyhow, money may be hard to come by but again, ironically, it may actually help you in college.

 

[Injury]

I don't need to read half the stuff in this thread to tell that you are an asshat. You don't pay a dime to live where you do, you probably bring nothing to the family finances and on top of it: "I blew my $$ on my computer. " is a piss poor excuse for not footing the bill yourself and telling your mom to get a better job while you blow money on a computer. I would be willing to bet that nothing you are REQUIRED to do for school would make you need a computer valued over $250...

Shut the hell up and be satisfied with having a place to sleep at night and having food to eat.