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Weeeman

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This year my grandparents decided to stay in Arizona for christmas [They usually stay the winters in AR and the rest of the time in Iowa. They would also fly to Iowa for christmas where they have lived for 70+ years]

Iowa is a fairly simple drive for my mom, brother and myself [14~15 hours]

Arizona Is not quite so simple, and would require plane tickets, which ofcourse cost a bit more cash than gas.

My mom has been short on money since my dad left a few years ago [He brought in all the money.. I guess we spent her income on... ???]
My grandpa offered to pay half of whatever the 3 tickets would cost [Which would knock down the price atleast $500 at this time of the year]
My brother and I each offered to put up $150 to help for tickets.
Leaving my mom to pay for ~200+ tax. She tells us its just too expensive.

So, my question is... Is it possible to tell a parent to get a better fvcking paying job withing getting shot?
She's definatly capable of finding something better paying etc, she just has refused to think about it in the past.

??

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kami333

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Have you actually TRIED finding a job before?

Try it first then get back to us and let us know how fun it is.
 

ElFenix

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i thought this was a thread about firing joe paterno
 

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How old are you and your brother? Do the two of you work? If so, why not offer to pony up $250 each so she doesn't have to pay a dime?
 

Weeeman

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I am 17, and my brother is 21, he's at PSU right now.

I offered $150 because simply, thats all I have. I blew my $$ on my computer.

She is working as a secretary at the seminary [My dad is a professor there, so as you can imagine it is a bit.. awkward, seeing as he is going to marry another professor at the seminary]

I'm not saying just get up and quit. I'm saying dont come home and complain that *we* dont have any money. Look for a better a job while you continue to work, its not like she is getting great benefits that would make up for a poor salary.


My dad is paying rent for our house until 3 months after I graduate [After that we have to move from the house we are in now, because it is reserved for faculty at the seminary]
So if she can't afford much when shes not paying rent, I cant imagine what its going to be like in June of this year.
 

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Originally posted by: Weeeman
I am 17, and my brother is 21, he's at PSU right now.

I'm not saying just get up and quit. I'm saying dont come home and complain that *we* dont have any money. Look for a better a job while you continue to work...

My dad is paying rent for our house until 3 months after I graduate [After that we have to move from the house we are in now, because it is reserved for faculty at the seminary]
So if she can't afford much when shes not paying rent, I cant imagine what its going to be like in June of this year.
You don't think that sounds a bit ungrateful???

How about after you graduate, YOU find a better job?

 

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Weeeman
I am 17, and my brother is 21, he's at PSU right now.

I'm not saying just get up and quit. I'm saying dont come home and complain that *we* dont have any money. Look for a better a job while you continue to work...

My dad is paying rent for our house until 3 months after I graduate [After that we have to move from the house we are in now, because it is reserved for faculty at the seminary]
So if she can't afford much when shes not paying rent, I cant imagine what its going to be like in June of this year.
You don't think that sounds a bit ungrateful???

How about after you graduate, YOU find a better job?

I have to agree. Maybe instead of blowing your money on yourself you could get a job and help your mom out.
 

Weeeman

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Weeeman
I am 17, and my brother is 21, he's at PSU right now.

I'm not saying just get up and quit. I'm saying dont come home and complain that *we* dont have any money. Look for a better a job while you continue to work...

My dad is paying rent for our house until 3 months after I graduate [After that we have to move from the house we are in now, because it is reserved for faculty at the seminary]
So if she can't afford much when shes not paying rent, I cant imagine what its going to be like in June of this year.
You don't think that sounds a bit ungrateful???

How about after you graduate, YOU find a better job?


I'm not trying to be ungrateful.
I help all that I can, money that I make now is going for everyday stuff and not to a computer, money that isn't helping out is going towards college next year.

Honestly, she has had better job offers, she doesn't want to leave the seminary.
 

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Originally posted by: Weeeman
I'm not trying to be ungrateful.
I help all that I can, money that I make now is going for everyday stuff and not to a computer, money that isn't helping out is going towards college next year.

Honestly, she has had better job offers, she doesn't want to leave the seminary.

That's her decision. As long as she is providing for you, you should be grateful and leave the career choices to her. There is more to a job than just the money; if you haven't realized this yet you will in time.
 

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Obviously you are a little boy. A man would step up to the plate and help provide for his family.

In your case, the answer to your question is yes, but only if you decapitate yourself prior to your mother's reaction.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: WeeemanI'm not trying to be ungrateful.
I help all that I can, money that I make now is going for everyday stuff and not to a computer, money that isn't helping out is going towards college next year.

Honestly, she has had better job offers, she doesn't want to leave the seminary.
Choosing your line of work isn't all about making enough money to make your adult children happy... This is probably something you'll understand better, when you are her age.

Leave her alone. She understands her situation exponentially more than you do.

 

AlienCraft

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Short answer is no. AND you run the risk of hurting your mother's feelings, which should be your prime concern.
How about you sell off some "stuff" and make up the difference?
It is your mother's responsibility to feed and clothe you and provide shelter for you.
Your job is to do the best as you can with YOUR life. Emphasis on YOU. Not for you to criticize your mom's lot in life.
How much crow does your mother need at this time of year? HAVING to work at the same place your father does, see him in public and bite her tongue, and THEN listen to a CHILD of her's tell her she's not performing to YOUR ideal???
Dude, get a grip.
I suspect if you asked your DAD for the extra money, he might find it. If not, well then you know how your father regards YOUR, and that of your BROTHER's, emotional needs.
 

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: WeeemanI'm not trying to be ungrateful.
I help all that I can, money that I make now is going for everyday stuff and not to a computer, money that isn't helping out is going towards college next year.

Honestly, she has had better job offers, she doesn't want to leave the seminary.
Choosing your line of work isn't all about making enough money to make your adult children happy... This is probably something you'll understand better, when you are her age.

Leave her alone. She understands her situation exponentially more than you do.

I already said I'm helping out as much as I can.

It's obviously not a great job enviromentaly[sp?is that a word?] If she has to work with my dad who she "cant stand" after being married 19 years

I'm sorry I dont see how it isn't atleast partially about money when she comes home and complains about the LACK of money in the house.
 

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I have a son your age and he doesn't know shat about work or the real world so I would be VERY offended if he yelled at me.

Ausm
 

Weeeman

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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Short answer is no. AND you run the risk of hurting your mother's feelings, which should be your prime concern.
How about you sell off some "stuff" and make up the difference?
It is your mother's responsibility to feed and clothe you and provide shelter for you.
Your job is to do the best as you can with YOUR life. Emphasis on YOU. Not for you to criticize your mom's lot in life.
How much crow does your mother need at this time of year? HAVING to work at the same place your father does, see him in public and bite her tongue, and THEN listen to a CHILD of her's tell her she's not performing to YOUR ideal???
Dude, get a grip.
I suspect if you asked your DAD for the extra money, he might find it. If not, well then you know how your father regards YOUR, and that of your BROTHER's, emotional needs.


He would offer the money in a heartbeat, but I fail to beleive my mom would ever accept it.
 

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Originally posted by: Weeeman
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: WeeemanI'm not trying to be ungrateful.
I help all that I can, money that I make now is going for everyday stuff and not to a computer, money that isn't helping out is going towards college next year.

Honestly, she has had better job offers, she doesn't want to leave the seminary.
Choosing your line of work isn't all about making enough money to make your adult children happy... This is probably something you'll understand better, when you are her age.

Leave her alone. She understands her situation exponentially more than you do.

I already said I'm helping out as much as I can.

It's obviously not a great job enviromentaly[sp?is that a word?] If she has to work with my dad who she "cant stand" after being married 19 years

I'm sorry I dont see how it isn't atleast partially about money when she comes home and complains about the LACK of money in the house.
ALL working class people complain about the lack of money, especially those with teenage boys.
Dude, if it's that important to you to see the GP's, SELL some of your stuff and CONTRIBUTE!
But stuff the complaining where we can't hear it. It's shameful of you.

 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Weeeman
I'm sorry I dont see how it isn't atleast partially about money when she comes home and complains about the LACK of money in the house.
I never said a career isn't "partially" about money... Just that it's not ALL about money. And like I said, you probably won't appreciate that at the age of 17. I know I sure didn't when I was that young.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: Weeeman
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Short answer is no. AND you run the risk of hurting your mother's feelings, which should be your prime concern.
How about you sell off some "stuff" and make up the difference?
It is your mother's responsibility to feed and clothe you and provide shelter for you.
Your job is to do the best as you can with YOUR life. Emphasis on YOU. Not for you to criticize your mom's lot in life.
How much crow does your mother need at this time of year? HAVING to work at the same place your father does, see him in public and bite her tongue, and THEN listen to a CHILD of her's tell her she's not performing to YOUR ideal???
Dude, get a grip.
I suspect if you asked your DAD for the extra money, he might find it. If not, well then you know how your father regards YOUR, and that of your BROTHER's, emotional needs.


He would offer the money in a heartbeat, but I fail to beleive my mom would ever accept it.
The suggestion was for YOU to ask for it and then GIVE it to your mother. When she asks where it came from , say "someone who loves me and insert Brother's name."


 

Weeeman

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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: Weeeman
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: WeeemanI'm not trying to be ungrateful.
I help all that I can, money that I make now is going for everyday stuff and not to a computer, money that isn't helping out is going towards college next year.

Honestly, she has had better job offers, she doesn't want to leave the seminary.
Choosing your line of work isn't all about making enough money to make your adult children happy... This is probably something you'll understand better, when you are her age.

Leave her alone. She understands her situation exponentially more than you do.

I already said I'm helping out as much as I can.

It's obviously not a great job enviromentaly[sp?is that a word?] If she has to work with my dad who she "cant stand" after being married 19 years

I'm sorry I dont see how it isn't atleast partially about money when she comes home and complains about the LACK of money in the house.
ALL working class people complain about the lack of money, especially those with teenage boys.
Dude, if it's that important to you to see the GP's, SELL some of your stuff and CONTRIBUTE!
But stuff the complaining where we can't hear it. It's shameful of you.


I really don't have much to sell for anything that would bring a decent amount of cash in.

I have a computer yes, who doesn't? I put it together because our dell crapped out and I find it easier to do work on it. [Yes and enjoy games while not in school/work] I suppose I could sell my video card, and get a cheaper one, but selling the entire thing off would mean buying something new in a few months to get me through college.


I didn't mean to be like "#*%#% get a better job" or anything of that sort.

Ofcourse it is hard to support 2 children, a good size house, keep up a decent social life etc, I understand that.

Who wants to see there parent going into debt for the first time as they enter there 50's? I sure don't.
 

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Your poor mother has enough on her plate without you standing there telling her to get a better job !

If you were my kid a comment like that just might win you a backhand, something I've done so rarely over the years that I can count the occasions on one hand!
 

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Originally posted by: Weeeman
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: Weeeman
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: WeeemanI'm not trying to be ungrateful.
I help all that I can, money that I make now is going for everyday stuff and not to a computer, money that isn't helping out is going towards college next year.

Honestly, she has had better job offers, she doesn't want to leave the seminary.
Choosing your line of work isn't all about making enough money to make your adult children happy... This is probably something you'll understand better, when you are her age.

Leave her alone. She understands her situation exponentially more than you do.

I already said I'm helping out as much as I can.

It's obviously not a great job enviromentaly[sp?is that a word?] If she has to work with my dad who she "cant stand" after being married 19 years

I'm sorry I dont see how it isn't atleast partially about money when she comes home and complains about the LACK of money in the house.
ALL working class people complain about the lack of money, especially those with teenage boys.
Dude, if it's that important to you to see the GP's, SELL some of your stuff and CONTRIBUTE!
But stuff the complaining where we can't hear it. It's shameful of you.


I really don't have much to sell for anything that would bring a decent amount of cash in.

I have a computer yes, who doesn't? I put it together because our dell crapped out and I find it easier to do work on it. [Yes and enjoy games while not in school/work] I suppose I could sell my video card, and get a cheaper one, but selling the entire thing off would mean buying something new in a few months to get me through college.


I didn't mean to be like "#*%#% get a better job" or anything of that sort.

Ofcourse it is hard to support 2 children, a good size house, keep up a decent social life etc, I understand that.

Who wants to see there parent going into debt for the first time as they enter there 50's? I sure don't.
Then, young weeman, it is time to redouble your efforts to contribute to the household. Take a part time job, do yardwork for older people in the neighborhood, collect and sell mistletoe door to door before Christmas, ANYTHING, short of selling your body, to help out. It is far more noble to share the burden than to complain of it.
If you go to ANY merchant asking for a job "to help my Mom out with the bills" rather than "to buy a car, and PS2, and a train set..." you will be much more likely to get that job.
And I say ask Dad for the money. He should be contributing to the household as well, above and beyond what your mother is already getting. If he can afford a new wife, he should pay for his children , FIRST.