Is it possible to simulate higher gravity without moving?

[Duddy]

So I caught an episode of DBZ earlier and saw that Vegeta was using a machine to simulate 300 times gravity to train.


So I'm thinking, is it possible actually simulate high gravity without anything moving?

This first thing I thought of was a looped wind tunnel that pushes high winds down at you and sucks it through a mesh type floor. That would simulate a high gravity.

But is there anything else?

 

[Savij]

Bungee cords strapped to the floor.

 

[Jugernot]

Originally posted by: Duddy
So I caught an episode of DBZ earlier and saw that Vegeta was using a machine to simulate 300 times gravity to train.


So I'm thinking, is it possible actually simulate high gravity without anything moving?

This first thing I thought of was a looped wind tunnel that pushes high winds down at you and sucks it through a mesh type floor. That would simulate a high gravity.

But is there anything else?

I'm guessing DBZ = Dragonball Z?

How old are you? I'm going to guess.... 6.

 

[Duddy]

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: Duddy
So I caught an episode of DBZ earlier and saw that Vegeta was using a machine to simulate 300 times gravity to train.


So I'm thinking, is it possible actually simulate high gravity without anything moving?

This first thing I thought of was a looped wind tunnel that pushes high winds down at you and sucks it through a mesh type floor. That would simulate a high gravity.

But is there anything else?

I'm guessing DBZ = Dragonball Z?

How old are you? I'm going to guess.... 6.

21

And you're an asshole.

EDIT: My rage got in the way of my grammar.

 

[Alphathree33]

Originally posted by: Duddy

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: Duddy
So I caught an episode of DBZ earlier and saw that Vegeta was using a machine to simulate 300 times gravity to train.


So I'm thinking, is it possible actually simulate high gravity without anything moving?

This first thing I thought of was a looped wind tunnel that pushes high winds down at you and sucks it through a mesh type floor. That would simulate a high gravity.

But is there anything else?

I'm guessing DBZ = Dragonball Z?

How old are you? I'm going to guess.... 6.

21

And your an asshole.

You mean "you're"?

 

[sutahz]

DBZ is good, at least the fight scenes. Goku and vegita sorta do what can be done to simulate more gravity. Add more mass to whatever it is you want to impose more 'gravity' to. Mass+force of gravity=weight. On Jupiter or wherever you'd weight like 381lbs, on earth you weigh 150lbs. Simulate a greater force of gravity by adding more weight.

you're rage, that's funny

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: sutahz
Mass+force of gravity=weight.

Seriously?

Cartoons != physics class. Don't do drugs.

In the physical sciences, weight is a measurement of the gravitational force acting on an object [objects have mass, btw]. In everyday parlance (and, for historical reasons, still in some technical terminology), "weight" is often incorrectly used as a synonym for mass.

Thanks for removing all doubt concerning your intellect. Good advice to not do drugs but also an important point you have brought up is to stay in school and more importantly, pay attention while there.

Originally posted by: Duddy
So I'm thinking, is it possible actually simulate high gravity without anything moving?

Simulate is the key word. Not make a bubble w/ actual higher gravity. Simulate. Adding weight/mass is a very simplistic way to do this. The wind tunnel, gravitron, usings weights + magnets are all great idea's. I went for the short and simple answer.

Originally posted by: dakels
Adding weights and adding gravity are of course very different. In high G's your heart...

All good points and valid for replicating gravity. The edit above this isn't directed at you, saw another post that triggered that.

 

[mcmilljb]

Most people will just add ankle weights, wrist weights and other items to increase resistance. That's what these "gravity machines" are trying to do, increase resistance.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Didn't Piccolo and/or Goku wear heavy metal plates under their shirt as part of their training early in DBZ? (Before the capsule artificial gravity training). Heavy weights = feels like >1 G.

Don't hate on DBZ, it's stupid but it's fun.

 

[Agentbolt]

Get really fat

/thread

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: sutahz
Mass+force of gravity=weight.

Seriously?

Cartoons != physics class. Don't do drugs.

 

[cdmccool]

How about one of those rides at amusement parks that spin around so fast you stick to the wall, and it's really hard to move or even turn your head?

 

[randay]

simple, just increase the gravity of earth by making the core more dense. introducing a blackhole into the center of the planet should do the trick. let us know how it turns out!

edit: increate is not a word... but it should be!

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: randay
simple, just increase the gravity of earth by making the core more dense. introducing a blackhole into the center of the planet should do the trick. let us know how it turns out!

edit: increate is not a word... but it should be!

O snap that's what the Technocore did in the Hyperion series. As I recall it forced humanity to colonize the galaxy. So hell, why not give it a try.

 

[spidey07]

Ingest tons of iron. Put humoungusly powerful magnet beneath you.

Higher gravity and realistic as well.

 

[Duddy]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Ingest tons of iron. Put humoungusly powerful magnet beneath you.

Higher gravity and realistic as well.

The force would quite literally pull the sh!t out of me.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: randay
simple, just increase the gravity of earth by making the core more dense. introducing a blackhole into the center of the planet should do the trick. let us know how it turns out!

edit: increate is not a word... but it should be!

O snap that's what the Technocore did in the Hyperion series. As I recall it forced humanity to colonize the galaxy. So hell, why not give it a try.

strange matter would work as well...

 

[Duddy]

I think my idea for a wind tunnel that pushes down on you and through the floor is the best idea yet.

Think the indoor skydiving, except in reverse.

Imagine doing push-ups when 180mph winds are pushing down on you.

 

[Connoisseur]

Originally posted by: Duddy
So I caught an episode of DBZ earlier and saw that Vegeta was using a machine to simulate 300 times gravity to train.


So I'm thinking, is it possible actually simulate high gravity without anything moving?

This first thing I thought of was a looped wind tunnel that pushes high winds down at you and sucks it through a mesh type floor. That would simulate a high gravity.

But is there anything else?

Diamagnetism
A strong enough magnetic field can make normally non-magnetic objects levitate in the presence of the field. Perhaps recalibrating the field or applying magnets in some way can increase the weight? Otherwise, just wear a suit made of a material like iron (mass of the suit is irrelevant) and go into a chamber with an electromagnetic floor. Crank up the EM field to the to the necessary force and go nuts.

 

[dakels]

Adding weights and adding gravity are of course very different. In high G's your heart can't pump strong enough to get blood where it needs to, including your brain. I think the human threshold for sustained G load is around 7-8g with a G-suit and 3-4g without? I'd have to look that up. In any duration it puts a huge load on your cardiovascular system, pulmonary, just about everything. The opposite of high G's is also true. Low G's has huge negative physical effects as well, just not so immediate.

I wonder what the highest recorded amount of overall body G force anyone ever sustained? The rocket car test guy has to be up there. I remember seeing a picture of him with massive red out. There are also people who have survived falling at terminal velocity and impacting hard flat surfaces. Someone do the math cuz I suck at math.

edit: you guys keep talking about things like superficial force and magnetism, it's nothing close to real G force though...

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Diamagnetism
A strong enough magnetic field can make normally non-magnetic objects levitate in the presence of the field. Perhaps recalibrating the field or applying magnets in some way can increase the weight? Otherwise, just wear a suit made of a material like iron (mass of the suit is irrelevant) and go into a chamber with an electromagnetic floor. Crank up the EM field to the to the necessary force and go nuts.

Just reverse the polarity.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: dakels
Adding weights and adding gravity are of course very different. In high G's your heart can't pump strong enough to get blood where it needs to, including your brain. I think the human threshold for sustained G load is around 7-8g with a G-suit and 3-4g without? I'd have to look that up. In any duration it puts a huge load on your cardiovascular system, pulmonary, just about everything. The opposite of high G's is also true. Low G's has huge negative physical effects as well, just not so immediate.

I wonder what the highest recorded amount of overall body G force anyone ever sustained? The rocket car test guy has to be up there. I remember seeing a picture of him with massive red out. There are also people who have survived falling at terminal velocity and impacting hard flat surfaces. Someone do the math cuz I suck at math.

edit: you guys keep talking about things like superficial force and magnetism, it's nothing close to real G force though...

All the more reason to train and increasing G levels. The body will strengthen and adapt. Of course your heart might wind up bigger than a basketball, but it would build.

 

[Connoisseur]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: dakels
Adding weights and adding gravity are of course very different. In high G's your heart can't pump strong enough to get blood where it needs to, including your brain. I think the human threshold for sustained G load is around 7-8g with a G-suit and 3-4g without? I'd have to look that up. In any duration it puts a huge load on your cardiovascular system, pulmonary, just about everything. The opposite of high G's is also true. Low G's has huge negative physical effects as well, just not so immediate.

I wonder what the highest recorded amount of overall body G force anyone ever sustained? The rocket car test guy has to be up there. I remember seeing a picture of him with massive red out. There are also people who have survived falling at terminal velocity and impacting hard flat surfaces. Someone do the math cuz I suck at math.

edit: you guys keep talking about things like superficial force and magnetism, it's nothing close to real G force though...

All the more reason to train and increasing G levels. The body will strengthen and adapt. Of course your heart might wind up bigger than a basketball, but it would build.

To a degree... won't your body adapt by shrinking? Too much constant high G and you'll become a dwarf. A strong dwarf maybe but a dwarf nonetheless. It's much easier to move your body in a higher G environment when you're closer to the ground.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Get really fat

/thread

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Connoisseur

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: dakels
Adding weights and adding gravity are of course very different. In high G's your heart can't pump strong enough to get blood where it needs to, including your brain. I think the human threshold for sustained G load is around 7-8g with a G-suit and 3-4g without? I'd have to look that up. In any duration it puts a huge load on your cardiovascular system, pulmonary, just about everything. The opposite of high G's is also true. Low G's has huge negative physical effects as well, just not so immediate.

I wonder what the highest recorded amount of overall body G force anyone ever sustained? The rocket car test guy has to be up there. I remember seeing a picture of him with massive red out. There are also people who have survived falling at terminal velocity and impacting hard flat surfaces. Someone do the math cuz I suck at math.

edit: you guys keep talking about things like superficial force and magnetism, it's nothing close to real G force though...

All the more reason to train and increasing G levels. The body will strengthen and adapt. Of course your heart might wind up bigger than a basketball, but it would build.

To a degree... won't your body adapt by shrinking? Too much constant high G and you'll become a dwarf. A strong dwarf maybe but a dwarf nonetheless. It's much easier to move your body in a higher G environment when you're closer to the ground.

Why do you think goku was so short?

I have to admit, I'm about to turn 37 and that was a fun show to watch.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Savij
Bungee cords strapped to the floor.

We did this to increase our vertical in vball. Small trampoline + bungie type cords attache to a waist strap.

It works.