Is it possible to kick a NATO ally out?

[Hoeboy]

With Belgium, France, and Germany being d1cks, I'm just curious.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Hoeboy
With Belgium, France, and Germany being d1cks, I'm just curious.

Probably so.

 

[coolVariable]

Well, why not kick the US out?
They are the ones pushing for a war of aggression.

 

[Hoeboy]

Originally posted by: coolVariable
Well, why not kick the US out?
They are the ones pushing for a war of aggression.

I'm not arguing that they should be kicked out or not.

 

[Imdmn04]

if anything, they will kick us out since they got the numbers

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: coolVariable
Well, why not kick the US out?
They are the ones pushing for a war of aggression.

umm... since when was protecting the world against biological weapons and liberating oppressed people while the united states does NOT get anything in return a 'war of agression'?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: coolVariable
Well, why not kick the US out?
They are the ones pushing for a war of aggression.

16 or 19 voted to protect turkey. It is France, germany and belgium that is in the minority.

 

[coolVariable]

umm... since when was protecting the world against biological weapons and liberating oppressed people while the united states does NOT get anything in return a 'war of agression'?

I do not see the US do that: I see them attacking a country for its resources!

Iraq might have WMDs => Lets attack them.
N. Korea has WMDs and proudly threatens anyone with them => lets give them food and money to shut them up.

How stupid are you?
Do you really think Saddam is going to do anything after the experience of '91?

 

[coolVariable]

16 or 19 voted to protect turkey. It is France, germany and belgium that is in the minority.

Well, that's democracy for you you hypocritical B: we are the defender of democracy but if anyone says anything against us we will shut him up.

 

[exp]

I think the U.S. and its Eastern European allies should leave NATO (leaving only France, Belgium, and Germany) and form a new alliance. They could call it the Warsaw Pact Part Deaux.

EDIT: i kant spel

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: coolVariable

16 or 19 voted to protect turkey. It is France, germany and belgium that is in the minority.

Well, that's democracy for you you hypocritical B: we are the defender of democracy but if anyone says anything against us we will shut him up.

Have we told them to shut up? NO. We will we do the right thing and go without them.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: coolVariable

umm... since when was protecting the world against biological weapons and liberating oppressed people while the united states does NOT get anything in return a 'war of agression'?

I do not see the US do that: I see them attacking a country for its resources!

Iraq might have WMDs => Lets attack them.
N. Korea has WMDs and proudly threatens anyone with them => lets give them food and money to shut them up.

How stupid are you?
Do you really think Saddam is going to do anything after the experience of '91?

It is obvious he has not learned from 91, as he is not complying with resolution 1441 or the previous 17 resolutions.

 

[coolVariable]

Well, if you happen to listen to the news (I know you don't) then it sounds like a big "SHUT THE F UP" to me.

 

[Desslok]

France and Germany owe their very being to the US. If not for us they Soviets would have rolled right on till the Atlantic.

 

[Hoeboy]

Originally posted by: coolVariable
Well, if you happen to listen to the news (I know you don't) then it sounds like a big "SHUT THE F UP" to me.

Maybe you listen to the news too much. That would explain the pathetic oil argument you've picked up.

 

[Ronstang]

I do not see the US do that: I see them attacking a country for its resources!

If you truly beleive that you are an idiot......why didn't we just take the resources in '91?

No answer?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: coolVariable
Well, if you happen to listen to the news (I know you don't) then it sounds like a big "SHUT THE F UP" to me.

So you think it is right for the French to protect Saddam because it has oil interests in iraq?

 

[coolVariable]

I would disagree: Without the US we would not have all these problems.
The german empire would have stretched from the Atlantik to the Pacific. (Especially after WW2 but also WW1).
=> no soviet empire.


And if American politicians had not been so fvcking stupid during WW2 and after it (especially FDR) there would have never been a soviet union.
McArthur and Patton were right: the American tanks should never have stopped rolling. (until they had met somewhere at the Kaukasus).
You want a unified, pacified world? We had our chance. Now live with the consequences.

 

[coolVariable]

So you think it is right for the French to protect Saddam because it has oil interests in iraq?

Is it ok for the US just because it wants to secure his oil fields?
If you don't see the truth of this you are a moron. I would suggest cleaning you head of all the clay that you must have stuck in this big cavity where normal people have something called a brain.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: coolVariable
I would disagree: Without the US we would not have all these problems.
The german empire would have stretched from the Atlantik to the Pacific. (Especially after WW2 but also WW1).
=> no soviet empire.


And if American politicians had not been so fvcking stupid during WW2 and after it (especially FDR) there would have never been a soviet union.
McArthur and Patton were right: the American tanks should never have stopped rolling. (until they had met somewhere at the Kaukasus).
You want a unified, pacified world? We had our chance. Now live with the consequences.

We could have and did not.

 

[Hoeboy]

coolVariable, let me ask you this. If we were really attacking Iraq for it's resources, then what do you say about these European countries that are obviously against the war because of their own economic interests regarding Iraq?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: coolVariable

So you think it is right for the French to protect Saddam because it has oil interests in iraq?

Is it ok for the US just because it wants to secure his oil fields?
If you don't see the truth of this you are a moron. I would suggest cleaning you head of all the clay that you must have stuck in this big cavity where normal people have something called a brain.

Nice Ad hom, is that the best you can do.

 

[coolVariable]

Nice Ad hom, is that the best you can do.

I can do far better but I'm trying to explain world politics to idiots ... you cannot involve complex scenarios there.

 

[Red Dawn]

They are our partners in an Alliance, not our vassal states. We don't dictate to thim and if they disagree then its up to our representives to convinces them to agree with us if he up to the job.

 

[exp]

If you don't see the truth of this you are a moron. I would suggest cleaning you head of all the clay that you must have stuck in this big cavity where normal people have something called a brain.

What is this..."brain" you speak of? Some kind of sausage?