Is it possible to get HIV from food?

[dullard]

HIV is one of the hardest diseases to actually get.

On average, someone has to be fully exposed 11 times with no form of protection or barrier to finally contract the disease. So, in reality, for your scenario to play out, you'll have to:
* on 11 different occasions someone with uncontrolled HIV cut a finger while serving your food,
* have the blood actually infect your food/plate,
* actually have HIV in that blood (since it is not highly concentrated, it often isn't in any given drop of blood),
* not cook the food after the blood spilled,
* not have anything that harms HIV in the food or surroundings (like others had mentioned, pH, salt, UV light, etc.),
* eat that infected uncooked blood almost immediately since it dies so quickly,
* and have no immune system or natural defenses of your own (such as saliva or stomach acids or intestine bases).

If all that happens, after 11 times on average, you will have a chance to contract HIV.

 

[GasX]

If the chef garnishes your food with fresh arterial blood and serves it to you in less than a minute and you swish it around in your open sore infested mouth, you have a minute chance of catching something.

 

[amdhunter]

you want his hiv?

I want yours. :wub:

 

[waggy]

No, wearing gloves is to protect against hepatitis virus infection, since they are far more infectious and far more hardy than HIV.

ITS gloves i tell you! don't eat in places unless everyone WEARS GLOVES! any good chief will tell you that!


:whiste:

 

[Imp]

So... I don't have to worry about touching the toilet seat then?

 

[blackangst1]

If you cant get it from kissing, you certainly cant get it from food. The virus is simply too fragile to survive.

edit: and no, you cant it from a toilet seat.

 

[nageov3t]

If you cant get it from kissing, you certainly cant get it from food. The virus is simply too fragile to survive.http://www.everydayhealth.com/hiv-aids/hiv-facts-and-myths-quiz.aspx

pro tip for the OP, though... you don't want to brush your teeth before engaging in oral sex, as that can make your gums bleed.

 

[Capt Caveman]

pro tip for the OP, though... you don't want to brush your teeth before engaging in oral sex, as that can make your gums bleed.

I doubt the OP is going to have to worry about that.

 

[mizzou]

Considering 23% of fast food workers have HIV and there are no reported cases of catching HIV from their food, I would say "NO"

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Considering 23% of fast food workers have HIV and there are no reported cases of catching HIV from their food, I would say "NO"

I'm pretty sure you could get aids from where you pulled that number from.

 

[mizzou]

I'm pretty sure you could get aids from where you pulled that number from.

I've come into contact with two HIV positive people the last week, and both times I go "eww" and glove up. Then I realize how futile that is, so it's basically just a psychological barrier.

 

[ringtail]

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[Gooberlx2]

drek

AIDS has not been clinically described anywhere outside the body because, by definition, AIDS is a syndrome reliant upon a (lack of) immune system. Maybe you meant HIV has existed outside the body, but I doubt it because you made the distinction in your own post.

Maybe you're confused and meant unrelated HCV has been observed outside the body, which is true, and a big reason gloves are required in food service. But until you post citations to your own claims about HIV/AIDS, I'm calling bullshit on your entire misinformed post.

 

[DCal430]

You’re only getting postings here of the info that WAS TAUGHT TO PEOPLE, as opposed to something entirely different: facts.

A “let’s not panic people” agenda guided the development of a set of info disseminated to the public, like school children & teachers & media.

In other words, politically correct info. Like your public school Science teacher passes on to you. That Science teacher hasn't done original lab research, doesn’t REALLY know, but it’s told to them, and they relay it to you. It becomes the PC “enlightened” view spread among all the people they influence.

The FACTS are a million miles away. The FACTS are intentionally hidden, never discussed, LET'S NOT PANIC PEOPLE.



HIV does presage full blown aids. Aids has been clinically described OUTSIDE THE HUMAN BODY 48 hours after any human contact, such as on cafeteria table tops, public toilet seats, your airplane seat headrest, the hand railing of the escalator at the mall, the face of the elevator button you pushed, the keypad at the store where you entered your PIN.

Reading: 978-0801884856


Can you get aids from food? ATOT posters and the masses generally merely reiterate what they were told...they don't really know what they're talking about...meanwhile elite scientists at top tier bio labs say it's an open question, leaning toward, "YES."


Cliffs: Wash your hands a lot.

 

[Capt Caveman]

AIDS has not been clinically diagnosed anywhere outside the body because, by definition, AIDS is a syndrome reliant upon a (lack of) immune system. Maybe you meant HIV has existed outside the body, but I doubt it because you made the distinction in your own post.

Maybe you Meant HCV has been observed outside the body, which is true, and a big reason gloves are required in food service. But until you post citations to your own claims, I'm calling bullshit on your entire misinformed post.

This. The thread is about HIV, not AIDs.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

You’re only getting postings here of the info that WAS TAUGHT TO PEOPLE, as opposed to something entirely different: facts.

Please show me the evidence by which you are convinced the two are a false equivalency.

A “let’s not panic people” agenda guided the development of a set of info disseminated to the public, like school children & teachers & media.

What about doctors and nurses? What about the people who wrote these info?

In other words, politically correct info. Like your public school Science teacher passes on to you. That Science teacher hasn't done original lab research, doesn’t REALLY know, but it’s told to them, and they relay it to you. It becomes the PC “enlightened” view spread among all the people they influence.

By this measure, you don't REALLY know anything either.

The FACTS are a million miles away. The FACTS are intentionally hidden, never discussed, LET'S NOT PANIC PEOPLE.

For you, maybe.

HIV does presage full blown aids.

This isn't really in contention.

Aids has been clinically described OUTSIDE THE HUMAN BODY 48 hours after any human contact, such as on cafeteria table tops, public toilet seats, your airplane seat headrest, the hand railing of the escalator at the mall, the face of the elevator button you pushed, the keypad at the store where you entered your PIN.

I doubt it. Maybe you should look up what HIV and AIDS actually are.

Can you get aids from food? ATOT posters and the masses generally merely reiterate what they were told...

So are you.

they don't really know what they're talking about...

I've not seen any evidence that shows you are different.

meanwhile elite scientists at top tier bio labs say it's an open question, leaning toward, "YES."


Cliffs: Wash your hands a lot.

Who are these people?

 

[ringtail]

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[BoberFett]

If a chef/cook is preparing your food and has HIV. What happens if they get a cut on their finger and a small amount of blood gets into your food. Wouldn't this allow the disease to transfer to you?

Yes. I suggest you stop eating. Immediately.

 

[CottonRabbit]

Go read. 978-0801884856

I am 100% certain that The Guide to Living with HIV Infection: Developed at the Johns Hopkins AIDS Clinic does not say that HIV is transmissible by everyday contact with objects in the environment. I am also certain that you did not actually read that book.

 

[OverVolt]

Blood to blood contact.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

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I'm glad you re-edited your post, because you would have looked mighty silly when I quoted these passages from the book:

HIV, like influenza, follows the same general principles of contagion. An infected person is the source of HIV. HIV is contagious if a person is susceptible and the contact is of the kind necessary for transmission. And HIV has a certain efficiency of transmission and a certain incubation period. There the resemblance ends.
This point deserves emphasis. Much of the misunderstanding about HIV infection has been based on the assumption that HIV is transmitted like other common infectious diseases. It isn’t. In brief, for HIV, the types of contact are very specific, transmission is inefficient, and HIV’s incubation period is very long.

We can provide absolute assurance that most types of common contact carry no risk of transmitting the virus. These include a variety of experiences often referred to as “casual contact”: shaking hands, hugging, sharing a toilet, sharing eating utensils, closed-mouth kissing, being sneezed on, and so forth. Not only has infection through casual contact not happened, it is biologically unrealistic to suppose it might.

At the same time, we must acknowledge that other types of contact, though unlikely to transmit HIV, might do so at least theoretically. HIV has been found in low numbers in saliva, stool, and tears. HIV has not been found in urine. Although transmission through these fluids is biologically possible, it doesn’t seem to happen; the CDC, which tracks all cases of AIDS, has no case in which the only type of contact was clearly through feces or urine or tears. There is one possible case of a bite transmitting HIV, and another case of presumed transmission through deep kissing, but the details of both cases are sketchy. Perhaps the inoculum size— the numbers of the virus— in these fluids is simply too low. In any case, transmission of HIV through these types of contact is extremely inefficient and is not known to happen. Unfortunately, the CDC and other groups continue to talk about “body fluids” as the source of HIV infection. This gives the wrong impression that the source of infection is all body fluids. In fact, the only body fluids that are the source of infection are semen, vaginal fluids, breast milk, and blood, including menstrual blood.

Another type of contact people worry about is indirect: becoming infected by a virus on a surface outside the body. To repeat, we are not aware that anyone (except the rare laboratory worker using high concentrations of the virus) has ever become infected by the virus living on a surface outside the body. The reason is that HIV cannot survive outside its host cells, and outside the body, cells die quickly. When host cells die, HIV dies with them. Although HIV can survive outside the body on a surface for up to fifteen days, the numbers of viruses on a surface fall rapidly to levels well below those necessary for infection.

Bartlett, John G.; Finkbeiner, Ann K.. Guide to Living with HIV Infection : Developed at the Johns Hopkins AIDS Clinic (6th Edition).
Baltimore, MD, USA: Johns Hopkins University Press, 2006.
http://site.ebrary.com/lib/auckland/Doc?id=10188505&ppg=45
Copyright © 2006. Johns Hopkins University Press. All rights reserved.

 

[Printer Bandit]

can vampires get hiv?

 

[TheNinja]

No, but you can get it from riding a tractor in your bathing suit.

 

[GasX]

I love when assholes who are clueless spout a load of BS and provide a random citation with the presumption noone will check it and assume his reference checks out.

Ringworm, I mean Ringtail, your ignorance is either astounding or you are just an energetic troll.