Is it possible to get HIV from food?

DCal430

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If a chef/cook is preparing your food and has HIV. What happens if they get a cut on their finger and a small amount of blood gets into your food. Wouldn't this allow the disease to transfer to you?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Haven't we already had this thread?
It's more likely you'll be beaned with a meteorite than contracting HIV from ingesting tainted blood.
 

Matthiasa

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The virus would be dead within a few minutes even if the food wasn't cooked after such event.
It is a stupidly fragile virus outside of a certian narrowly defined set of conditions.
 

OverVolt

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You know how there is UV light everywhere? Yea that kills viruses and bacteria. They are stupidly fragile on any hard surface. Too hot, too cold, too acidic, too basic, too salty, too watery, and it'll die.

If he cut his finger into your 98.6F 0.9% NaCL ph 7.35 sheep blood dinner without florescent lighting, then maybe.
 

Gooberlx2

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If he cut his finger into your 98.6F 0.9% NaCL ph 7.35 sheep blood dinner without florescent lighting, then maybe.

Haha. And even then, it only matters if you have an open wound in your mouth, else the virus would be destroyed by hostile conditions on its way through the digestive system.
 

DCal430

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So if the food isn't cooked after it is contaminated with blood, then infection remains a real but minor risk.
 

sportage

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Id worry about getting too fat from fried foods or food cooked with too much salt or sugar, first.
Diabetes can hit anyone eating too much bad food or drinking sweetened drinks too often.
And I know people with diabetes that have it much harder than any hiv person.
Today, hiv is pretty much totally controllable. Diabetes is not.
I've never heard of someone hiv losing a toe or their eyesight or losing a foot or living with ugly sores all over their body.
Not with todays hiv medications and treatment advances.
But I do know several people with diabetes that are constantly needing toes removed, or part of the entire foot removed, and gross sores all over their arms and legs, and feet that will not heal.
That... is pretty scary to me.
No miracle drugs as of yet for severe diabetes.
I really don't know how i would answer if I had to choose between getting hiv, or type 2 diabetes. I know way too many people with diabetes that have serious and major health problems.
Magic Johnson, on the other hand, looks perfectly healthy for someone with hiv for so many years.
Cancer and diabetes are much more terrifying to live with and survive long term in todays world of modern medicine. People with hiv seem to pretty much live normal life spans with modern medicine.
And anyone can get diabetes simply by following poor eating habits. You can't get hiv from McDonalds or too much sugar or pop.
Living with and controlling diabetes can be much more challenging, as I see it.
As compared to popping a few pills to keep hiv in remission, long term.
I think you're paranoia is a bit misdirected.

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OCGuy

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Id worry about getting too fat from food cooked with too much salt or sugar, first.
Diabetes can hit anyone eating too much bad food or drinking sweetened drinks too often.
And I know people with diabetes that have it much harder than any hiv person.
Today, hiv is pretty much totally controllable. Diabetes is not.
I've never heard of someone hiv losing a toe or their eyesight or losing a foot or living with ugly sores all over their body in todays world. Not with todays hiv medications and treatment advances.
But I do know several people with diabetes that are constantly needing toes removed, or part of the entire foot removed, and sores all over their arms and legs that and feet will not heal. That... is pretty scary to me.
No miracle drugs as of yet for diabetes.
I really don't know how i would answer if I had to choose between getting hiv, or type 2 diabetes. I know way too many people with diabetes that have serious and major health problems.
Magic Johnson, on the other hand, looks perfectly healthy for someone with hiv for so many years.
Cancer and diabetes are much more terrifying to live with and survive long term in todays world of modern medicine. People with hiv seem to pretty much live normal life spans with modern medicine.
And anyone can get diabetes simply by following poor eating habits. You can't get hiv from McDonalds or too much sugar or pop.
I think you're paranoia is a bit misdirected.

Um, you know that Magic Johnson is the exception, not the rule, right?

Yes, the OP's question is retarded. And yes, HIV is still a killer.
 

sportage

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I disagree that Magic johnson is that much of an exception.
I think his situation is fairly typical in this country, in todays world.
At least with the availably and access to medical treatment.
No doubt hiv is still a major problem in third world countries with poor access, or no access to treatment.
The ongoing wide spread of hiv illustrates most hiv people look normally healthy.
Thanks to moderin medicine, that is.
If one did not know that Magic Johnson was hiv, would you ever expect?
Your best friend could be hiv positive and you might never know.
But with diabetes, I simply know way too many people living day to day, and with missing limbs or with their eyesight serious in danger.
Like I was comparing, if I had to make a choice between living the life of my brother-in-law, or several aunts and uncles, or the life of Magic Johnson... THAT would be a very hard decision.
One just does not hear of hiv as a life threatening condition now a day, not compared to the 1980's or early nineties.
But watching people suffering with diabetes, I see and hear every day.
Not that anyone would really want to make that choice.
But I think the odds of long term survival, and a more normal daily existence would be in favor of the person undergoing treatment for hiv, compared to mid to later stages of diabetes.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Yes, it's not only possible, it's extremely likely. The only answer is to stop eating entirely. In fact that works so well I guarantee that in less than a year it will be impossible for you to contract HIV.
 

nageov3t

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even if the food was at just the right temperature to keep the virus alive, unless you've got open, bleeding sores in your mouth, my understanding is that stomach acid will kill the HIV virus.
 

darkxshade

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What are the chances restaurant will have a chef with HIV that prepares food with sharp objects... who also would be a dick and not say or do anything if they got cut?
 

lxskllr

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I'd say the possibility is non zero, but it isn't something I'd give a single thought to.