Is it possible to form a "hurricanebuster" company with this idea?

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Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Eli
LMFAO!!!!

This thread is hilarious. :p

You people suggesting dropping nukes on them are insane! :Q

The American Cancer Society says that the number of cancers a year caused from the nuclear fallout of all the nuclear bombs ever detonated on the planet is undeterminable. You have to be ignorant or high to think that the fallout just.. goes away. :p

I don't even think fallout is the main issue. Disrupting such a huge weather pehnomenon like that.. Again, you'd have to be pretty naive to think that it wouldn't do anything to the climatology of the planet. We know very little in this area..

For the fun of discussion, I bet dropping a powerful nuke in the center of the hurricane would probably disrupt it considerably, but that doesen't mean it wouldn't re-form.

These storms are like 400 miles wide.. Even our best nukes wouldn't even take the whole hurricane out.

Hmm.. I have a better idea.

These storms create that much power on their own?

Have we tried to re-create a hurricane on a much larger scale? Is that possible? Or is the space the storm takes up required for it to form, or something?

Even still, that much power :Q it would be worth it. We need to research this area more. Set aside a 500 square mile area somewhere in the country.. and start trying to make a stationary hurricane. :D


Well, a nuke might make a momentary disturbance seen by satellite. That would be about it.

As far as creating a hurricaine, you are looking at things backwards. The hurricaine exists because the atmospheric conditions are right and there is enough energy to make a hurricaine. Hurricaines do not make energy, energy makes hurricaines. If you could somehow make one, you would need to take 10 to the some ungodly power to do it. You would consume the worlds power, and make a storm. You cannot make a storm and get energy from it. Doesnt work thermodynamically

 

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Originally posted by: richardycc
are there any research done on how to stop a hurriance? I am wondering if dumping a bomb into the eye of the hurricane can disrupt the formation of the twister, since the bomb can temporarily such the air out of the hurricane's surrounding, so no air = no air movement = no hurricane. Good idea? stupid? any meterorologist on here? ;)

It seems that you got your hands on some bad acid or some really potent crack.
 

jurzdevil

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heat makes the hurricane grow. put ice cubes under it. once they go over water less than 80f they weaken
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: Eli
LMFAO!!!!

This thread is hilarious. :p

You people suggesting dropping nukes on them are insane! :Q

The American Cancer Society says that the number of cancers a year caused from the nuclear fallout of all the nuclear bombs ever detonated on the planet is undeterminable. You have to be ignorant or high to think that the fallout just.. goes away. :p

I don't even think fallout is the main issue. Disrupting such a huge weather pehnomenon like that.. Again, you'd have to be pretty naive to think that it wouldn't do anything to the climatology of the planet. We know very little in this area..

For the fun of discussion, I bet dropping a powerful nuke in the center of the hurricane would probably disrupt it considerably, but that doesen't mean it wouldn't re-form.

These storms are like 400 miles wide.. Even our best nukes wouldn't even take the whole hurricane out.

Hmm.. I have a better idea.

These storms create that much power on their own?

Have we tried to re-create a hurricane on a much larger scale? Is that possible? Or is the space the storm takes up required for it to form, or something?

Even still, that much power :Q it would be worth it. We need to research this area more. Set aside a 500 square mile area somewhere in the country.. and start trying to make a stationary hurricane. :D


Well, a nuke might make a momentary disturbance seen by satellite. That would be about it.

As far as creating a hurricaine, you are looking at things backwards. The hurricaine exists because the atmospheric conditions are right and there is enough energy to make a hurricaine. Hurricaines do not make energy, energy makes hurricaines. If you could somehow make one, you would need to take 10 to the some ungodly power to do it. You would consume the worlds power, and make a storm. You cannot make a storm and get energy from it. Doesnt work thermodynamically
Ahh.. yeah, that makes sense. It was just a silly idea anyway. ;) Where does the energy come from in the first place, though? The sea and the atmosphere itself, right? Because the conditions are correct..?

So in theory, you could get it to "start" itself.. I suppose the problem would be creating a container that had walls into the stratosphere, though. :p
 

Jeff7

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Ahh.. yeah, that makes sense. It was just a silly idea anyway. Where does the energy come from in the first place, though? The sea and the atmosphere itself, right? Because the conditions are correct..?

Same place all weather, and just about everything on the planet gets its power from initially - the sun. Solar radiation is absorbed and converted into heat unevenly. This ends up causing weather patterns, plant growth, etc. Remove sun, and weather patterns would eventually cease, as would all life on the planet.
 

crumpet19

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Hurricanes are natures way of moving heat.
They remove heat from the ocean and lower air pushing it upwards into the atmosphere.
If you build a house on the coast you need to be prepared to deal with the consequences of hurricanes. Just like if you build in Oklahoma, you've got tornados to worry about. Or California with earthquakes.

Why don't you build an "earthquakebuster" company and see how well that takes off.
 

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Originally posted by: richardycc
are there any research done on how to stop a hurriance? I am wondering if dumping a bomb into the eye of the hurricane can disrupt the formation of the twister, since the bomb can temporarily such the air out of the hurricane's surrounding, so no air = no air movement = no hurricane. Good idea? stupid? any meterorologist on here? ;)

1. Hurricanes centers are low pressure.... "sucking the air out of them" would make them even lower pressure.... If you were successful, you would make the hurricane even more powerful.

2. "Suck the air out" generally refers to "use up the oxygen"... that's why explosives are effective against fires; the oxygen necessary for combustion is eliminated

3. You would be adding more energy to the system, again, possibly making the hurricane stronger.

4. I could be completely wrong...
 

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: Eli
LMFAO!!!!

This thread is hilarious. :p

You people suggesting dropping nukes on them are insane! :Q

The American Cancer Society says that the number of cancers a year caused from the nuclear fallout of all the nuclear bombs ever detonated on the planet is undeterminable. You have to be ignorant or high to think that the fallout just.. goes away. :p

I don't even think fallout is the main issue. Disrupting such a huge weather pehnomenon like that.. Again, you'd have to be pretty naive to think that it wouldn't do anything to the climatology of the planet. We know very little in this area..

For the fun of discussion, I bet dropping a powerful nuke in the center of the hurricane would probably disrupt it considerably, but that doesen't mean it wouldn't re-form.

These storms are like 400 miles wide.. Even our best nukes wouldn't even take the whole hurricane out.

Hmm.. I have a better idea.

These storms create that much power on their own?

Have we tried to re-create a hurricane on a much larger scale? Is that possible? Or is the space the storm takes up required for it to form, or something?

Even still, that much power :Q it would be worth it. We need to research this area more. Set aside a 500 square mile area somewhere in the country.. and start trying to make a stationary hurricane. :D


Well, a nuke might make a momentary disturbance seen by satellite. That would be about it.

As far as creating a hurricaine, you are looking at things backwards. The hurricaine exists because the atmospheric conditions are right and there is enough energy to make a hurricaine. Hurricaines do not make energy, energy makes hurricaines. If you could somehow make one, you would need to take 10 to the some ungodly power to do it. You would consume the worlds power, and make a storm. You cannot make a storm and get energy from it. Doesnt work thermodynamically

how about small compact generators using gyroscopes, 200 to 300 hundred lbs each that can somehow store electricity thrown in the middle of the storm and then recovered afterwards?