crt1530
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Because I don't understand having a lifetime goal of having that little muscle/strength. If you don't lift, that's fine. It's not for everyone. But if you dedicate yourself to improving your physique and/or getting stronger, I don't understand aiming for mediocre.
Vic
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Um... some of us don't want to become so big that we can't play basketball, run/jog for miles and miles, and/or ride a bike anymore. There's a lot more to fitness and athleticism than just being massively huge and strong. Hell, there's this guy at my gym who can bench reps of well over 400 lbs. without even worrying about a spotter. It's impressive to watch, but I wouldn't want his body.
You have a point there. You don't have to have add a whole lot of muscle before you start to notice an increased difficulty in doing activities such as running, swimming, etc. Granted if you aren't trying to compete in those things then I don't see a problem. Heck, if you are just doing them for the cardiovascular benefit then maybe having the added muscle weight would be a good thing because it would force you to work harder to move yourself around.
crt1530
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Well, I have no desire whatsoever to run/bike for miles and miles. I'd rather watch paint dry. At 5'8" 190+ I can still play soccer and am usually the fastest guy on the field (adult league w/ full size field and 45 min halves). I've seen guys much heavier than I am play basketball quite well.
I'm not saying there's something wrong with them (or you). I just can't relate.
Maybe if you're trying to compete with the Kenyans in a marathon. But in activities such as basketball, you'd be pretty hard up to meet anyone who plays competitively that wouldn't want to put on some extra muscle - especially in the ranges you guys are speaking of.
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That seems like you would have to lift a lot of alternators. I know the one on my car is fairly light. I would guess that lifting the battery is probably more effective.
Eat alot, exercise during all your free time for a while. Make your body react properly to your change in lifestyle.... when you are happy with what you got, cut back and maintain.
Everyones' body is different and reacts different. You just gotta find the right regiment to suit yourself.
My strategy when I wanted to get fit was to wear 5lb ankle weights and 2.5lb wrist weights 24/7 and workout 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour in the afternoon on whatever body part that wasn't sore. And I ate a crap ton of chicken, rice and milk. This was 7 years ago when I cared about my health. I went from weighing 170 with no muscle to 220lbs in 4 months. And I was cut.
Then I started smoking and drinking.
Everyones' body is different and reacts different. You just gotta find the right regiment to suit yourself.
My strategy when I wanted to get fit was to wear 5lb ankle weights and 2.5lb wrist weights 24/7 and workout 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour in the afternoon on whatever body part that wasn't sore. And I ate a crap ton of chicken, rice and milk. This was 7 years ago when I cared about my health. I went from weighing 170 with no muscle to 220lbs in 4 months. And I was cut.
Then I started smoking and drinking.
Originally posted by: toolboxolio
Eat alot, exercise during all your free time for a while. Make your body react properly to your change in lifestyle.... when you are happy with what you got, cut back and maintain.
Everyones' body is different and reacts different. You just gotta find the right regiment to suit yourself.
My strategy when I wanted to get fit was to wear 5lb ankle weights and 2.5lb wrist weights 24/7 and workout 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour in the afternoon on whatever body part that wasn't sore. And I ate a crap ton of chicken, rice and milk. This was 7 years ago when I cared about my health. I went from weighing 170 with no muscle to 220lbs in 4 months. And I was cut.
Then I started smoking and drinking.
You're claiming to have gained 50 lbs. of muscle in 4 months by using dinky ankle and wrist weights? That's 3 lbs. of muscle per week. The body can't even synthesize new muscle that fast, even when drugs are used and a real muscle-building routine is followed.
brandonbull
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Originally posted by: toolboxolio
Eat alot, exercise during all your free time for a while. Make your body react properly to your change in lifestyle.... when you are happy with what you got, cut back and maintain.
Everyones' body is different and reacts different. You just gotta find the right regiment to suit yourself.
My strategy when I wanted to get fit was to wear 5lb ankle weights and 2.5lb wrist weights 24/7 and workout 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour in the afternoon on whatever body part that wasn't sore. And I ate a crap ton of chicken, rice and milk. This was 7 years ago when I cared about my health. I went from weighing 170 with no muscle to 220lbs in 4 months. And I was cut.
Then I started smoking and drinking.
So you gained 50+ lbs of muscle by only working out 2 hours a day for 4 months? You must have been using A LOT of flaxseed oil.
crt1530
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Don't feed the troll, Special K.Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: toolboxolio
Eat alot, exercise during all your free time for a while. Make your body react properly to your change in lifestyle.... when you are happy with what you got, cut back and maintain.
Everyones' body is different and reacts different. You just gotta find the right regiment to suit yourself.
My strategy when I wanted to get fit was to wear 5lb ankle weights and 2.5lb wrist weights 24/7 and workout 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour in the afternoon on whatever body part that wasn't sore. And I ate a crap ton of chicken, rice and milk. This was 7 years ago when I cared about my health. I went from weighing 170 with no muscle to 220lbs in 4 months. And I was cut.
Then I started smoking and drinking.
You're claiming to have gained 50 lbs. of muscle in 4 months by using dinky ankle and wrist weights? That's 3 lbs. of muscle per week. The body can't even synthesize new muscle that fast, even when drugs are used and a real muscle-building routine is followed.
alkemyst
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For most people they can do what they think is 'bulking' while losing fat.
You get thinner and toner...but bulking is a lot different.
When you bulk you get a little soft, but you actually can feel your clothes get tighter and your strength usually skyrockets. When you are losing weight your strength improves no where near as much.
If you are a new lifter looking to be 'big' it's best to stick to the big lifts and just eat and sleep enough. Do that for a couple years and worry about cut.
If you are looking to just be fit and trim, the big lifts still work great, but you'd keep your diet in check more and get much slower and steady gains.
Genetics has a big role in what you will look like.
You get thinner and toner...but bulking is a lot different.
When you bulk you get a little soft, but you actually can feel your clothes get tighter and your strength usually skyrockets. When you are losing weight your strength improves no where near as much.
If you are a new lifter looking to be 'big' it's best to stick to the big lifts and just eat and sleep enough. Do that for a couple years and worry about cut.
If you are looking to just be fit and trim, the big lifts still work great, but you'd keep your diet in check more and get much slower and steady gains.
Genetics has a big role in what you will look like.
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: toolboxolio
Eat alot, exercise during all your free time for a while. Make your body react properly to your change in lifestyle.... when you are happy with what you got, cut back and maintain.
Everyones' body is different and reacts different. You just gotta find the right regiment to suit yourself.
My strategy when I wanted to get fit was to wear 5lb ankle weights and 2.5lb wrist weights 24/7 and workout 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour in the afternoon on whatever body part that wasn't sore. And I ate a crap ton of chicken, rice and milk. This was 7 years ago when I cared about my health. I went from weighing 170 with no muscle to 220lbs in 4 months. And I was cut.
Then I started smoking and drinking.
You're claiming to have gained 50 lbs. of muscle in 4 months by using dinky ankle and wrist weights? That's 3 lbs. of muscle per week. The body can't even synthesize new muscle that fast, even when drugs are used and a real muscle-building routine is followed.
I gained weight. And I didn't just put "dinky" weights on and sit around. I kept them on and had a 24/7 fitness regiment atop that. I consumed ~4000 lean calories a day. Worked out at least 2 hours a days and did as much cardio as I could on the side (rode my bike everywhere and played ball till the lights went out).
I didn't gain 50lbs of muss-culls... but I gained serious weight at the peak of my growth age and kept it on. Alot of it was muscle and some of it was just me growing to my peak.
I didn't want to be tall and lanky. I wanted to be tall and thick. I accomplished that.
Seeing that this is ATOT, I'll let you believe what you want regardless of what you read. I know what I did. And it happened.
Considering that Floyd Mayweather is 5'8" and had to bulk up just to edge over 150 lbs, I'd say that a goal of 155 lbs doesn't have to mean you're limiting the potential strength you can build.
It could mean a commitment to cardio...
Agreed. I've been working out going on 7.5 years now, but haven't gained any weight for the majority of that time. I'm 5'10" and started out around 150lbs, got up to ~170lbs after the first two or so years, and have been there ever since. I no longer have any desire to gain any weight, and while I would never mind additional strength, I'm quite happy with where I currently stand in that respect.
Edit: I should also add that I hardly consider my goals to be aiming for mediocrity. Quite the opposite, actually. I knew I never wanted to get huge; rather, I had a target weight, and then after attaining it, wanted to pack in as many strength gains as possible without necessarily increasing my size.
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