Is it possible for Intel to buy AMD?

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Sunner

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Originally posted by: ribbon13
Well technically, you'd still have VIA for x86 (haha what a joke), and a plethora of other options like IBM's PowerPC.

Well, for a firewall a VIA based platform wouldn't be too bad at all, given the enormous crypto performance :)

For a gaming computer on the other hand...
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: ribbon13
Well technically, you'd still have VIA for x86 (haha what a joke), and a plethora of other options like IBM's PowerPC.

Well, for a firewall a VIA based platform wouldn't be too bad at all, given the enormous crypto performance :)

For a gaming computer on the other hand...

On chip crypto makes me all tingly inside. :eek:
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: ribbon13
Uncle Sam would lay the smack down on Intel.

probably not under the current administration. ;)

it would not be a good move for either company (unless something drastic 'happens') in the current marketplace . . . (imo)
 

stickybytes

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sure, intel could easily buy amd financially, but that would definetely not be cool. as a consumer, you wouldn't even want that to happen because intel would command the entire cpu market which means fixed prices and no innovation. competition is what drives amd and intel to release newer, fast better processors but when you take away the competition, what's to prevent intel from selling the same 3.2ghz cpu ten years from now?
 

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Originally posted by: Fike
It is more likely that Intel would by a company like Texas Instruments . PC industry growth is flat . Application specific semiconductors in the communications and consumer electronics areas are hot. Intel has been trying to breach TI's control o fthe cell phone market for years. They would more than love to get parts in Ipods, digi cams, and cell phones, especially as these little jobbies converge into one platform.

Regulatorswould NEVER let Intel buy AMD. It would be an obvious anti-competetive action to eliminate their competetion.

Furthermore, the semiconductor industry no longer revolves around the PC as it once did. Intel would be better advised to watch for the next big thing. TI got lucky with DSP and cell phones. Intel is probably not happy about being a smaller player in high margin growth industries like consumer electronics.



I agree...the 2 of them together would be 80-90% of the PC cpu market....Intel needs companies like AMD aorund to keep the fed off their backs now. I believe they conduct anti-competitive practices now (like they got slapped in Japan) with Dell. If AMD stays in as a strong player then the Feds dont seem to look.

 

WackyDan

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Only one point here...

FTC would never let it happen..... All mergers of large publically traded companies are subject to their approval. PERIOD.

..and please... the Bush administration and politics have nothing to do with whether it could happen or not. It would violate commerce/anit-monopolistic laws..period.

Now, somebody other than Intel could probably do it and pass gov't concerns over monopoly. IBM wouldn't, in a way they have turned themselves into their own chipzilla with the amount of semiconductor and larger scale processor production.

 

Hurricane Andrew

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I go back to my Dish-DirectTV comment. That was squashed (under the current admin, for the Bush bashers ;)) rather quickly, and the combined company would have still lagged far behind the top cable providers.

It won't happen. Write it down.
 

iwantanewcomputer

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the fed would never approve that unless amd was going out of buisness anyway...financially yes....another thing, toyota could buy GM with one year's profits. toyota's market cap is more than GM + Ford +Daimler/Chrystler
 
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$wise, with no regulation, yes they could. As things are, no they can't/won't.
 

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Originally posted by: Hurricane Andrew
I go back to my Dish-DirectTV comment. That was squashed (under the current admin, for the Bush bashers ;)) rather quickly, and the combined company would have still lagged far behind the top cable providers.

It won't happen. Write it down.



thats strange though because directv bought primestar a few years ago. then again, by that point primestar was kinda on the way out, but still they let that one pass but not the dish-directv sale.
 

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: Fike
It is more likely that Intel would by a company like Texas Instruments . PC industry growth is flat . Application specific semiconductors in the communications and consumer electronics areas are hot. Intel has been trying to breach TI's control o fthe cell phone market for years. They would more than love to get parts in Ipods, digi cams, and cell phones, especially as these little jobbies converge into one platform.

Regulatorswould NEVER let Intel buy AMD. It would be an obvious anti-competetive action to eliminate their competetion.

Furthermore, the semiconductor industry no longer revolves around the PC as it once did. Intel would be better advised to watch for the next big thing. TI got lucky with DSP and cell phones. Intel is probably not happy about being a smaller player in high margin growth industries like consumer electronics.



I agree...the 2 of them together would be 80-90% of the PC cpu market....Intel needs companies like AMD aorund to keep the fed off their backs now. I believe they conduct anti-competitive practices now (like they got slapped in Japan) with Dell. If AMD stays in as a strong player then the Feds dont seem to look.

This is what bothers me. It seems the FTC is content to stand by until a company is completely driven out of the market. Its odvious if you read the findings in the Japanese FTC reports, Intel is liberally applying strongarm tactics on both OEM's and mfg's.

AMD really is in a tough position. Arguably, AMD is leading in the CPU race on more than a few fronts, yet many of the top OEM's do not carry their product. If AMD lags even a little, and loses this lead, I think its lights out for AMD.
 

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: ribbon13
Well technically, you'd still have VIA for x86 (haha what a joke), and a plethora of other options like IBM's PowerPC.

Well, for a firewall a VIA based platform wouldn't be too bad at all, given the enormous crypto performance :)

For a gaming computer on the other hand...

On chip crypto makes me all tingly inside. :eek:
LMAO! :laugh:

 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: ribbon13
Well technically, you'd still have VIA for x86 (haha what a joke), and a plethora of other options like IBM's PowerPC.

Well, for a firewall a VIA based platform wouldn't be too bad at all, given the enormous crypto performance :)

For a gaming computer on the other hand...

On chip crypto makes me all tingly inside. :eek:

Same here, and if we ever get a halfway decent pipe at work, I might actually need to upgrade my firewall to handle the VPN traffic, an EPIA would be nice for that :)
 

Oyeve

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Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
the fed would never approve that unless amd was going out of buisness anyway...financially yes....another thing, toyota could buy GM with one year's profits. toyota's market cap is more than GM + Ford +Daimler/Chrystler
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There was a law passed yrs ago about the fact that americans were buying more toyotas than american made cars, that is why many if not most toyotas are actually made here. Simular thing with nissan. the us was saying nissan was selling more cars here than anywhere else and put a cap on how many cars nissan could sell, but there was a loophole that nissan found, they formed another company, acura, and mde the cars in the us. Ahh, good old worldwide capitalism. :)
 

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Originally posted by: Oyeve
Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
the fed would never approve that unless amd was going out of buisness anyway...financially yes....another thing, toyota could buy GM with one year's profits. toyota's market cap is more than GM + Ford +Daimler/Chrystler
A

There was a law passed yrs ago about the fact that americans were buying more toyotas than american made cars, that is why many if not most toyotas are actually made here. Simular thing with nissan. the us was saying nissan was selling more cars here than anywhere else and put a cap on how many cars nissan could sell, but there was a loophole that nissan found, they formed another company, acura, and mde the cars in the us. Ahh, good old worldwide capitalism. :)

Very true. This was actually the best thing they ever did IMO. American factories with American Employees without import tax.