is it possible for humans to evolve any further?

Lithium381

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Evolution normally kills off the weak and the strong survive right? That's how most species evolve anyways....humans, we go out of our way to save the "weak" and continue to allow them to breed and reproduce......(like stupid people!) even if it is counter-survival, like obisity(i have nothing against it, just an exmple) or any other disease that is hereditary....yet we find ways around it, which is cool as a species to be able to do, but is that limiting our natural evolution?!~
 

0roo0roo

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evolution doesn't have a "goal". merely selects for traits that allow for better survival/ability to pass on to next generations.

human societies also have cultural/societal evolution added to the equation.
 

Heisenberg

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Of course we'll continue to evolve. Unless of course we wipe ourselves off the face of the planet.
 

everman

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Genetic engineering, and the eventual integration of machine into man would qualify as evolution within the species. If taken far enough, possibly something that could be considered a new species.
 
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Science finds ways around it, not the natural process. Shots and medicine do a lot more for us than evolving. Evolution takes thousands of years anyway - the only thing I can forsee happening to our bodies over the next thousand years is less body hair and the 5th toe on your feet getting smaller (like it already has been)
 

Lithium381

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merely selects for traits that allow for better survival/ability to pass on to next generations.

exactly, our bad traits never die it seems......because we find ways to preserve ourself(which in itself is survival of the fittest) but among ourselves, i cant see how we can evolve, because people that can't survive, somehow do with the help of everyone else to pass on their "bad" genes to subsequent generations
 

Mallow

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negative... humans have found too many ways to bypass natural selection. There are no longer any selective pressures on the human race. No particular gene really gives an individual an advantage, except heterozygous sickle cell in a malaria zone. I'm sure there are a couple others but not many.
 
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I say just take the stupid warning labels off everything and let nature take its course - the kid who plays with the hairdryer in the bathtub doesn't grow up to have kids of his own. Think of it as "passive eugenics."

- M4H
 

rgwalt

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Most giant leaps in evolution do not occur as a result of natural select. They occur when a large majority of the plant's species are wiped out. The survivors were merely lucky, and not necessarily better suited than any other species. They did adapt to their environment though, and in those adaptations we see small-scale darwinian evolution.
 

Brutuskend

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Ever read Kurt Vonnegut's Galapagos ??


According to him we will all turn into hairy dolphins!


(well if the last humans got stuck on the Galapagos Islands at any rate..) ;)

He also says man biggest problem is he was born with too BIG a BRAIN!

Truer words have NEVER been spoken!!
 

Lovepig

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No! Humans cannot evolve any further.

If they ~could~ evolve further, that would imply that they had evolved ~somewhat~ already - which would be false!

Evolution is just one more flase religion that adherents are brainwashed into believing. And they must continue to ignore scientific facts to continue to believe in, or at a minimum treat all results from their biased perspective instead of looking at facts objectively...

ScienceAgainstEvolution.org

Browse through someof the back issues of 'Disclosure' online...
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Lovepig
No! Humans cannot evolve any further.

If they ~could~ evolve further, that would imply that they had evolved ~somewhat~ already - which would be false!

Evolution is just one more flase religion that adherents are brainwashed into believing. And they must continue to ignore scientific facts to continue to believe in, or at a minimum treat all results from their biased perspective instead of looking at facts objectively...

ScienceAgainstEvolution.org

Browse through someof the back issues of 'Disclosure' online...

right... 10thousand years ago a magical being dropped down two white people called adam and eve and now we have 6 billion people including asian people like me:p sounds likely.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Lovepig
No! Humans cannot evolve any further.

If they ~could~ evolve further, that would imply that they had evolved ~somewhat~ already - which would be false!

Evolution is just one more flase religion that adherents are brainwashed into believing. And they must continue to ignore scientific facts to continue to believe in, or at a minimum treat all results from their biased perspective instead of looking at facts objectively...

ScienceAgainstEvolution.org

Browse through someof the back issues of 'Disclosure' online...

right... 10thousand years ago a magical being dropped down two white people called adam and eve and now we have 6 billion people including asian people like me:p sounds likely.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Lovepig
No! Humans cannot evolve any further.

If they ~could~ evolve further, that would imply that they had evolved ~somewhat~ already - which would be false!

Evolution is just one more flase religion that adherents are brainwashed into believing. And they must continue to ignore scientific facts to continue to believe in, or at a minimum treat all results from their biased perspective instead of looking at facts objectively...

ScienceAgainstEvolution.org

Browse through someof the back issues of 'Disclosure' online...
You've got to be kidding.... lol.
 

bob332

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by us using our brain to "fix" things, such as shots and so forth is evolution. strong survive -> we may not physically be the strongest around but our ability to think and use our strongest attribute (our brain) is evolution.
 

Vic

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Yes, we will. But all further human evolution will take place in the mind.
 

HombrePequeno

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Evolution is a constant thing. With each new child, humanity evolves further.

But I'm guessing that's not exactly your question. Will we evolve into a different species from what we are now? If we last a few million more years (probably a lot less) we probably will because of genetic engineering and all that fun stuff. And probably in maybe a few thousand years or so we'll lose our appendix just because we don't need it.
 

Moonbeam

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Yes, humanity is currently evolving into Homo Californicus, the new advanced human form, liberal, tan and fit, environmentally sensitive and progressive. He is what most of you or your children will become in just a small number of years. But as to what the most advanced of Homo Califorincans are evolving into, is a guarded secret. The first of a kind, the HDJ1 test model, only just recently became operational on line. Us old style humans will just have to watch and see.
 

Sid59

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Originally posted by: Lovepig
No! Humans cannot evolve any further.

If they ~could~ evolve further, that would imply that they had evolved ~somewhat~ already - which would be false!

Evolution is just one more flase religion that adherents are brainwashed into believing. And they must continue to ignore scientific facts to continue to believe in, or at a minimum treat all results from their biased perspective instead of looking at facts objectively...

ScienceAgainstEvolution.org

Browse through someof the back issues of 'Disclosure' online...

lol, nice deduction .. a = b =c .. but c doesn't equal a
 

zephyrprime

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We're evolving right now. Currently, many professionals choose to delay having a family and as a result have fewer kids. For many countries, this is a big problem because their birthrates are less than replacement rate (eg korea, italy, others too.). But not everyone does this. "white trash", devout religious people and others tend to have much higher birth rates. These two traits are largely cultural but I bet they have some genetic component too (especially religion). They're the future. Evolution doesn't always work the way people think.

Our ancestors evolved calorie hoarding tendancies. In a technological society where food is plentiful, this is actually detrimental. Since obesity is considered to be less sexually attractive, the obese have fewer chances at reproduction and evolution is working here too.

The thing is though, evolution takes so fricken long we'll probably be cloning ourselves and genitically engineering ourselves before either of the two things I mentioned ever really get going.
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: Mallow
negative... humans have found too many ways to bypass natural selection. There are no longer any selective pressures on the human race. No particular gene really gives an individual an advantage, except heterozygous sickle cell in a malaria zone. I'm sure there are a couple others but not many.

how does have sickle cell help fight malaria?
 

Atlantean

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Yes. Haven't you ever seen X-men?? Seriously though, its arrogant to think that we are the final stage in human evolution, though perhaps there will be some other intelligent species that evolves from us.