Is it only a matter of time before Airborne Aids

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91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Xyclone
Only a matter of time before airborne sexually transmitted diseases? :confused:

It is a blood transmitted disease, not necessarily a sexually transmitted disease. Many people have contracted AIDS due to IV drug use or blood transfusions.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: mugs
Yes, I think the opinion of a guy who doesn't know AIDS is an acronym will make me very worried.

Winnar! I came in here wondering what the fuck OPie was talking about.
 

Noobtastic

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Originally posted by: Calculator83
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Deeko
That would be one hell of a mutation, as I recall HIV dies on contact with air.

well not on contact with air, but a loss of heat. It requires the temperature of the body to live (and can withstand all the natural variations of human temperature so fevers don't do anything). Drop some blood on the ground and once it cools it'll be free of the HIV bug.

Do you have any links on treatments that included Freezing of the body temporarily?

I was thinking the same thing!!!!
 

jpeyton

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I truly hope it goes airborne.

Then pharmaceutical companies will finally have a real incentive to invent a cure.

Right now it's much more profitable to sell drugs that keep AIDS patients alive and consuming a lot of pills. Inventing a cure for anything is never as profitable as inventing a drug that cures the symptoms.

More likely than not, a cure will probably come from a university research lab.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
I truly hope it goes airborne.

Then pharmaceutical companies will finally have a real incentive to invent a cure.

Right now it's much more profitable to sell drugs that keep AIDS patients alive and consuming a lot of pills. Inventing a cure for anything is never as profitable as inventing a drug that cures the symptoms.

More likely than not, a cure will probably come from a university research lab.

This sums up just how fucked up you are. You want bad things to happen to people to prove your point.

 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
I truly hope it goes airborne.

Then pharmaceutical companies will finally have a real incentive to invent a cure.

Right now it's much more profitable to sell drugs that keep AIDS patients alive and consuming a lot of pills. Inventing a cure for anything is never as profitable as inventing a drug that cures the symptoms.

More likely than not, a cure will probably come from a university research lab.
Tell me how you would go about designing a cure vs. designing a treatment. What gene or process in HIV would you target and how?

Bear in mind that conventional vaccine approaches have failed despite multiple trials.
 

gamepad

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
I truly hope it goes airborne.

Then pharmaceutical companies will finally have a real incentive to invent a cure.

Right now it's much more profitable to sell drugs that keep AIDS patients alive and consuming a lot of pills. Inventing a cure for anything is never as profitable as inventing a drug that cures the symptoms.

More likely than not, a cure will probably come from a university research lab.

I never thought about that. It's a good theory, but I don't think that's the case.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: mugs
This sums up just how fucked up you are. You want bad things to happen to people to prove your point.
The worst situations usually bring out the best in humanity.

The rest of the time, we're just trying to make a fast buck.
 

miri

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Deeko
as I recall HIV dies on contact with air.

well not on contact with air, but a loss of heat. It requires the temperature of the body to live (and can withstand all the natural variations of human temperature so fevers don't do anything). Drop some blood on the ground and once it cools it'll be free of the HIV bug.

Incorrect.

HIV does not die with air contact but it does becomes nearly impossible to transfer once it's method of transmission dries out.

Lack of heat does not kill HIV, you can freeze HIV and it can infect again once it is thawed out.
 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: mugs
This sums up just how fucked up you are. You want bad things to happen to people to prove your point.
The worst situations usually bring out the best in humanity.

The rest of the time, we're just trying to make a fast buck.

So you'd rather have the world in a state of dispair and ruin just so you can feel good about humanity? Kind of a fucked up way to think about things, don't ya think?
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: mugs
This sums up just how fucked up you are. You want bad things to happen to people to prove your point.
The worst situations usually bring out the best in humanity.

The rest of the time, we're just trying to make a fast buck.

So you'd rather have the world in a state of dispair and ruin just so you can feel good about humanity? Kind of a fucked up way to think about things, don't ya think?

You're talking to someone who talks about the deaths of thousands of people in the style of a Mastercard commercial.
 

TruePaige

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Man this thread is full of some dumb statements.

Guys...we're nowhere near a mutation of something like that.

Out of all the STD's out there, some of them many orders of magnitude older than HIV, none have ever gone "Airbone".

 

Calculator83

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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Man this thread is full of some dumb statements.

Guys...we're nowhere near a mutation of something like that.

Out of all the STD's out there, some of them many orders of magnitude older than HIV, none have ever gone "Airbone".

It only takes ONE, and time is not a factor of when,, I only used it to make the statement that it may be inevitable.
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: Calculator83
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Man this thread is full of some dumb statements.

Guys...we're nowhere near a mutation of something like that.

Out of all the STD's out there, some of them many orders of magnitude older than HIV, none have ever gone "Airbone".

It only takes ONE, and time is not a factor of when,, I only used it to make the statement that it may be inevitable.

I betcha it takes more than one.

As for the chances of it happening I've got better odds of being killed by falling space shuttle debris.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: Calculator83
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Man this thread is full of some dumb statements.

Guys...we're nowhere near a mutation of something like that.

Out of all the STD's out there, some of them many orders of magnitude older than HIV, none have ever gone "Airbone".

It only takes ONE, and time is not a factor of when,, I only used it to make the statement that it may be inevitable.

It only takes ONE idiot to make ONE stupid statement. Something like that?
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: mugs
Yes, I think the opinion of a guy who doesn't know AIDS is an acronym will make me very worried.

Winnar! I came in here wondering what the fuck OPie was talking about.

Even if they had bleated AAIDS, it still wouldn't make sense since by definition it is the symptoms and not the agent.
 

summit

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Retro-Virus there is no cure. You can only treat or try to prevent the disease. Get your facts straight. No possible cure = no incentive.
 

BigDH01

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AIDS doesn't become airborne, HIV does. HIV's envelope is rendered non-functional as per my understanding in oxygen rich environments. Without the envelope, the capsid cannot enter the cell and the virus cannot be transmitted.
 

summit

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AIDS is the name of the disease which comes from HIV. The mutations it would have to go under would have to in essense affect the protein coat to make it transmittable in air. The viral load you would have to transmit makes it almost impossible.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
I truly hope it goes airborne.

Then pharmaceutical companies will finally have a real incentive to invent a cure.

Right now it's much more profitable to sell drugs that keep AIDS patients alive and consuming a lot of pills. Inventing a cure for anything is never as profitable as inventing a drug that cures the symptoms.

More likely than not, a cure will probably come from a university research lab.

You're a nutcase and a conspiracy theorist.