Is it not yet time to give Israel a dope slap?

Lemon law

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As Reagan used to say, there they go again.

As Israel approves plans for 40,000 Israeli housing units to be built in East Jerusalem. On disputed land Israel does not own and sure to derail any peace processes. Which has drawn a strongly worded statement from Obama, UN official condemnation, and its sure to draw almost universal international anger.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_pales...uX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA2lzcmFlbGFuZ2Vycw--

But it never seems to occur to anyone, that until Israel is beat over the head with sticks, they will just continue the same ole outrageous shit they continue to engage in.

Maybe its long past time to cut US aid to Israel to zero while the UN considers an economic embargo of Israel. ACTIONS like that will maybe get the mid-east peace process back on track, because words and inaction accomplish nothing. As Israel has again proved as a undeniable FACT.
 

theflyingpig

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Israel will do whatever it wants. No one will do anything but issue "strongly worded statements". The US will do nothing. The UN is useless. The Arabs don't care. Everyone knows this.
 

Ozoned

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From the Jpost on a related note.


"The American demands are misguided, and if Israel accepts them, it could constitute the beginning of a principle that would prohibit Israel from building in west Jerusalem altogether. Jerusalem has not been the capital of Israel since Camp David, but rather since King David," Sheetrit told The Jerusalem Post.

Sheetrit added that in previous administrations, the Americans had not objected to building throughout east Jerusalem, including in Har Homa, but added that part of America's tolerance for the building may have been due to the fact that, at the time, Israel was involved in active peace negotiations with the Palestinians.

"The existing status quo is one in which building is accepted in all of Jerusalem," he said.

Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat said that he refused to be part of a halt to Jewish or Arab construction in west or east Jerusalem.

"Israeli law does not discriminate between Arabs and Jews, or between east and west of the city," he said in a statement. "The demand to cease construction just for Jews is illegal, also in the US and any other enlightened place in the world."

"It is inconceivable that the US government would demand a construction freeze in the US based on race, religion or sex, and the attempt to demand this from Jerusalem constitutes a double standard and is unacceptable," continued the statement.

"The Jerusalem Municipality will continue to enable construction in every part of the city for Jews and Arabs alike."
 

Ozoned

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As Reagan used to say, there they go again.

As Israel approves plans for 40,000 Israeli housing units to be built in East Jerusalem. On disputed land Israel does not own and sure to derail any peace processes. Which has drawn a strongly worded statement from Obama, UN official condemnation, and its sure to draw almost universal international anger.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_pales...uX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA2lzcmFlbGFuZ2Vycw--

But it never seems to occur to anyone, that until Israel is beat over the head with sticks, they will just continue the same ole outrageous shit they continue to engage in.

Maybe its long past time to cut US aid to Israel to zero while the UN considers an economic embargo of Israel. ACTIONS like that will maybe get the mid-east peace process back on track, because words and inaction accomplish nothing. As Israel has again proved as a undeniable FACT.

Maybe, before you start shouting your reply, you should actually read the article that you posted. Heh heh.

They approved 900 units where 40,000 israelis already live.
 

Infohawk

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Maybe, before you start shouting your reply, you should actually read the article that you posted. Heh heh.

They approved 900 units where 40,000 israelis already live.

So in other words they're expanding settlements. Anyone want to take bets if Obama is going to really stand up to Israel?
 

Ozoned

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So in other words they're expanding settlements. Anyone want to take bets if Obama is going to really stand up to Israel?

No standing up. He don't care. He has already sent word that we are broke and that they are going to have to do the Iran thing alone. Of course that means they will have to take care of syria also.

We will finish up in Afghanistan by getting India and Pakistan to nuke each other. When the dust clears, then he will stand up to Israel and say, See what you did?
 

ZzZGuy

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For all my support I give Israel, I'd like nothing better then to see all of Jerusalem dug up down to 200ft and every every last bit of dirt put through a rock crusher. This pile of rubble is not worth the lives that will be spent fighting over it.

Both parties claim at least part of it as their capital and will not tolerate the other side doing so.

Baffles the mind on who thought putting a bunch of religious nuts together with savages/trash of the arab world would end well.
 

fallout man

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No standing up. He don't care. He has already sent word that we are broke and that they are going to have to do the Iran thing alone. Of course that means they will have to take care of syria also.

We will finish up in Afghanistan by getting India and Pakistan to nuke each other. When the dust clears, then he will stand up to Israel and say, See what you did?

robble robble robble
 

JEDIYoda

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As Reagan used to say, there they go again.

As Israel approves plans for 40,000 Israeli housing units to be built in East Jerusalem. On disputed land Israel does not own and sure to derail any peace processes. Which has drawn a strongly worded statement from Obama, UN official condemnation, and its sure to draw almost universal international anger.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_palest...FlbGFuZ2Vycw--

But it never seems to occur to anyone, that until Israel is beat over the head with sticks, they will just continue the same ole outrageous shit they continue to engage in.

Maybe its long past time to cut US aid to Israel to zero while the UN considers an economic embargo of Israel. ACTIONS like that will maybe get the mid-east peace process back on track, because words and inaction accomplish nothing. As Israel has again proved as a undeniable FACT.

Shame on you Lemon Law for not reading the article and comprehending the article.....
It does not say 40,000 uinits it says 900 units where 40,000 already live, and it doesn`t specify if those units are replacing older units or are for 900 more familys....get your stuff straight dude.
 

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Maybe, before you start shouting your reply, you should actually read the article that you posted. Heh heh.

They approved 900 units where 40,000 israelis already live.

you shouldn't expect honesty from people like him.
 

SamurAchzar

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This is just regular housing, the building company then sells it on. It's not government-sponsored housing as far as I know.

Anyway, the mayor has a point. East Jerusalem is NOT like Gaza. The Arabs living in East Jerusalem have all Israeli citizenship and are free to do as any other Israeli.
 

JEDIYoda

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As Reagan used to say, there they go again.

As Israel approves plans for 40,000 Israeli housing units to be built in East Jerusalem. On disputed land Israel does not own and sure to derail any peace processes. Which has drawn a strongly worded statement from Obama, UN official condemnation, and its sure to draw almost universal international anger.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_pales...uX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA2lzcmFlbGFuZ2Vycw--

But it never seems to occur to anyone, that until Israel is beat over the head with sticks, they will just continue the same ole outrageous shit they continue to engage in.

Maybe its long past time to cut US aid to Israel to zero while the UN considers an economic embargo of Israel. ACTIONS like that will maybe get the mid-east peace process back on track, because words and inaction accomplish nothing. As Israel has again proved as a undeniable FACT.

It`s time to give you a dope slap.....
 

wwswimming

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Maybe its long past time to cut US aid to Israel to zero while the UN considers an economic embargo of Israel.

it was time for a dope slap in 1967, when they attacked the USS Liberty in a failed attempt to hide the fact that the 6 day war was started by Israel.

the USS Liberty was a spy boat manned with US military personnel, Israel wanted to be able to blame other countries as the aggressors. data collected by the USS Liberty blew Israel's story out of the water.

but ... Johnson wanted Jewish support in the US for the War on Southeast Asia, and he was afraid to come down on Israel too hard - just for killing 30+ US military personnel.
 

QuantumPion

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it was time for a dope slap in 1967, when they attacked the USS Liberty in a failed attempt to hide the fact that the 6 day war was started by Israel.

the USS Liberty was a spy boat manned with US military personnel, Israel wanted to be able to blame other countries as the aggressors. data collected by the USS Liberty blew Israel's story out of the water.

but ... Johnson wanted Jewish support in the US for the War on Southeast Asia, and he was afraid to come down on Israel too hard - just for killing 30+ US military personnel.

That just doesn't make any sense logically. What data are you referring to? If the US had incriminating evidence against Israel, compounded with the attack, why would the US keep it secret? Why spy on Israel in the first place? Why would Israel attack the Liberty, but not not destroy it, and then offer to help them afterwards? What would they have to gain by pissing off their only ally in the entire world, especially when the Soviets were backing their enemies? Why do you think Israel needed someone to blame or make excuses for their preemptive strike?
 

ayabe

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This is just regular housing, the building company then sells it on. It's not government-sponsored housing as far as I know.

Anyway, the mayor has a point. East Jerusalem is NOT like Gaza. The Arabs living in East Jerusalem have all Israeli citizenship and are free to do as any other Israeli.

Except stay in their homes.
 

Genx87

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it was time for a dope slap in 1967, when they attacked the USS Liberty in a failed attempt to hide the fact that the 6 day war was started by Israel.

the USS Liberty was a spy boat manned with US military personnel, Israel wanted to be able to blame other countries as the aggressors. data collected by the USS Liberty blew Israel's story out of the water.

but ... Johnson wanted Jewish support in the US for the War on Southeast Asia, and he was afraid to come down on Israel too hard - just for killing 30+ US military personnel.

And yet we have had how many congressional inquiries on this subject and none of them support the conspiracy theory? Which is what exactly? Israel decided to attack the United States for what purpose? I never did understand that part of the conspiracy. What did Israel gain by attacking its biggest supporter?
 

jonks

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it was time for a dope slap in 1967, when they attacked the USS Liberty in a failed attempt to hide the fact that the 6 day war was started by Israel.

the USS Liberty was a spy boat manned with US military personnel, Israel wanted to be able to blame other countries as the aggressors. data collected by the USS Liberty blew Israel's story out of the water.

but ... Johnson wanted Jewish support in the US for the War on Southeast Asia, and he was afraid to come down on Israel too hard - just for killing 30+ US military personnel.

what history books are you reading? Yes the 6 day war was preemptively started by israel. But to say it was unjustified would be ridiculous. And its enemies which surround it were the aggressors, which had they been allowed to strike first they would have wiped out the nation of Israel completely, seeing as how they disputed its very right to exist. Instead, israel struck first, and look at that, egypt, syria and jordan are still around today. Go figure.
 

JEDIYoda

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it was time for a dope slap in 1967, when they attacked the USS Liberty in a failed attempt to hide the fact that the 6 day war was started by Israel.

the USS Liberty was a spy boat manned with US military personnel, Israel wanted to be able to blame other countries as the aggressors. data collected by the USS Liberty blew Israel's story out of the water.

but ... Johnson wanted Jewish support in the US for the War on Southeast Asia, and he was afraid to come down on Israel too hard - just for killing 30+ US military personnel.

Just WoW-- where do you fruit cakes come from????
You mis-represent what went down. You also assume that israel had bad intentions which in fact is baseless.
Then you bring Johnson into this......he did NOT need jewish support for the "war in Southeast asia".....you are in good company dude....we have Patrenus and Pjabber -0- now we can add you to the mix and we have the three stooges!!
 
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As Reagan used to say, there they go again.

As Israel approves plans for 40,000 Israeli housing units to be built in East Jerusalem. On disputed land Israel does not own and sure to derail any peace processes. Which has drawn a strongly worded statement from Obama, UN official condemnation, and its sure to draw almost universal international anger.

Could Israel argue that since they have suffered from terrorist attacks that they might be morally entitled to take whatever land they want?

What if they said, "For every Israeli killed by terrorist attacks, we claim 1 square mile of land," and then actually followed through with it. I wonder if that might deter the Islamicists. Nah.
 

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As Reagan used to say, there they go again.

As Israel approves plans for 40,000 Israeli housing units to be built in East Jerusalem. On disputed land Israel does not own and sure to derail any peace processes. Which has drawn a strongly worded statement from Obama, UN official condemnation, and its sure to draw almost universal international anger.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_pales...uX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA2lzcmFlbGFuZ2Vycw--

But it never seems to occur to anyone, that until Israel is beat over the head with sticks, they will just continue the same ole outrageous shit they continue to engage in.




Maybe its long past time to cut US aid to Israel to zero while the UN considers an economic embargo of Israel. ACTIONS like that will maybe get the mid-east peace process back on track, because words and inaction accomplish nothing. As Israel has again proved as a undeniable FACT.


Yeah, threatening UN sanction is going to stop people from doing what they want, how's that working with N. Korea and Iran? The US aid to Israel is important only that Israel is forced to buy American made weapons instead of making the weapons themselves or buy from other countries such as Russia. Israel is pretty good at making hi-tec weapons, India is one of its favorite customers along with S. America countries.
 
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JEDIYoda

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Originally Posted by Lemon law
As Reagan used to say, there they go again.

As Israel approves plans for 40,000 Israeli housing units to be built in East Jerusalem. On disputed land Israel does not own and sure to derail any peace processes. Which has drawn a strongly worded statement from Obama, UN official condemnation, and its sure to draw almost universal international anger.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_palest...FlbGFuZ2Vycw--

But it never seems to occur to anyone, that until Israel is beat over the head with sticks, they will just continue the same ole outrageous shit they continue to engage in.

Maybe its long past time to cut US aid to Israel to zero while the UN considers an economic embargo of Israel. ACTIONS like that will maybe get the mid-east peace process back on track, because words and inaction accomplish nothing. As Israel has again proved as a undeniable FACT.

In no way would it get the peace process back on track, in fact it would do just the opposite.
You idiots who think that without United states aid that Israel would be hurting real bad would be in for as rude awakening...it would make the IDF that much more determined and the kid gloves would be off!!

You do not understand that survival is survival , you just do not want the IDF unleashed...with the US arounbd to run any type if interference!!