Is it me or is Bill Maher slicked haired douche?

brandonbull

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I was channel surfing and Bill Maher was on a rant about how the 4k people being eliminated by Amex were worthless. The nerve of that used car salesmen to go on tv and talk about somebody's job not contributing to the economy. His job has to top the list of worthless jobs. The guy is a typical leftist elite.

He sits on his soap box and cries about how unfair it is for credit card companies to charge high interest rates. FYI Bill, nobody makes people use credit cards and if the rates are not acceptable, do not use them. I know that is a radical concept.

That guy is 100% waste of space and does not deserve to earn more than 50k/yr. I'm sure while he is driving around in his $100k+ cars the thought of how badly he is overpaid and how congress should enact laws to limit his pay never crosses his mind.

/rant

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Blackjack200

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Originally posted by: brandonbull
I was channel surfing and Bill Maher was on a rant about how the 4k people being eliminated by Amex were worthless. The nerve of that used car salesmen to go on tv and talk about somebody's job not contributing to the economy. His job has to top the list of worthless jobs. The guy is a typical leftist elite.

He sits on his soap box and cries about how unfair it is for credit card companies to charge high interest rates. FYI Bill, nobody makes people use credit cards and if the rates are not acceptable, do not use them. I know that is a radical concept.

That guy is 100% waste of space and does not deserve to earn more than 50k/yr. I'm sure while he is driving around in his $100k+ cars the thought of how badly he is overpaid and how congress should enact laws to limit his pay never crosses his mind.

/rant
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It's you.
 

brandonbull

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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
LOL

P&N is what that means

I didn't consider my rant P&N. Nothing political or news worthy enough from him to earn that status.
 

brandonbull

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Originally posted by: Blackjack200
Originally posted by: brandonbull
I was channel surfing and Bill Maher was on a rant about how the 4k people being eliminated by Amex were worthless. The nerve of that used car salesmen to go on tv and talk about somebody's job not contributing to the economy. His job has to top the list of worthless jobs. The guy is a typical leftist elite.

He sits on his soap box and cries about how unfair it is for credit card companies to charge high interest rates. FYI Bill, nobody makes people use credit cards and if the rates are not acceptable, do not use them. I know that is a radical concept.

That guy is 100% waste of space and does not deserve to earn more than 50k/yr. I'm sure while he is driving around in his $100k+ cars the thought of how badly he is overpaid and how congress should enact laws to limit his pay never crosses his mind.

/rant
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It's you.

His "job" is much more important than the 4k people being shit canned because He doesn't see the need for them?
 

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Originally posted by: brandonbull
Is it me or is Bill Maher slicked haired douche?
You.

I'm sure the execs at ae are teary-eyed at the ramifications of their leadership of the last 5-10 years. As cheney would say, shit happens.
 

brandonbull

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: sandorski
You Succeed at Fail! Congrats.

Wow! I can only imagine the intense thought process you endured to arrive at that gem.

Can you, really?

Wow! Another feather in your cap. You are on your way to achieving "ace" status of great posts.
 

fskimospy

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Your views on the credit card industry illustrate the common problem with modern American conservatism, a focus on the ideological while ignoring the reality. Sure it would be great if everyone were fully informed about their credit agreements. In reality though, they aren't. (do you read the full text of every contract you sign? If you say yes I call you a liar.) Furthermore, the credit card companies deliberately attempt to mask these unsavory terms from their customers. High interest rates aren't unfair, it's high interest rates that the credit card company consciously tries to hide. An honest exchange of information is the cornerstone of any effective and well functioning market. If the credit card companies want to tamper with that, they do so at their legislative peril.


 

brandonbull

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Your views on the credit card industry illustrate the common problem with modern American conservatism, a focus on the ideological while ignoring the reality. Sure it would be great if everyone were fully informed about their credit agreements. In reality though, they aren't. (do you read the full text of every contract you sign? If you say yes I call you a liar.) Furthermore, the credit card companies deliberately attempt to mask these unsavory terms from their customers. High interest rates aren't unfair, it's high interest rates that the credit card company consciously tries to hide. An honest exchange of information is the cornerstone of any effective and well functioning market. If the credit card companies want to tamper with that, they do so at their legislative peril.

So people need a nanny state because they are too lazy to educate themselves? I'm sorry but I do read the fine print on credit card terms. I know the rate to expect and if I fail in my obligations it's a penalty in the form of higher rates and fees.

 

Craig234

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Rather than discuss the points you made, I'm going to point out to you that you did not understand Maher's point.

Our society has let an 800 pound king kong grow over our nation's economy. In recent times the financial industry has earned 41% of profits in the economy.

That's an *overhead* industry not actually making goods or services for consumption earning 41% - with manipulations that led to the major financial crash.

So, I think one of his points was, 'the financial industry is downsizing? Good. That's their no longer tying up 4,000 people and freeing them to do something productive.'

It wasn't an attack on the people, but the financial industry.

I don't think his point was very well thought out, but it seems his heart is in the right place.

As for Maher overall - I'm a lukewarm fan with mixed views on him but watch his show for the guests. It's an unusually good forum.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Your views on the credit card industry illustrate the common problem with modern American conservatism, a focus on the ideological while ignoring the reality. Sure it would be great if everyone were fully informed about their credit agreements. In reality though, they aren't. (do you read the full text of every contract you sign? If you say yes I call you a liar.) Furthermore, the credit card companies deliberately attempt to mask these unsavory terms from their customers. High interest rates aren't unfair, it's high interest rates that the credit card company consciously tries to hide. An honest exchange of information is the cornerstone of any effective and well functioning market. If the credit card companies want to tamper with that, they do so at their legislative peril.

So people need a nanny state because they are too lazy to educate themselves? I'm sorry but I do read the fine print on credit card terms. I know the rate to expect and if I fail in my obligations it's a penalty in the form of higher rates and fees.

You should go read up on how these companies actually work. If they were just raising your rates for you failing to live up to your obligations it would be tough to complain about, but that's not what they are doing at all.

Government facilitates commerce through making sure everyone plays the game in a forthright and honest manner, currently the credit card companies are not doing this and every reasonable person knows it. If you did read the fine print on your credit card agreement it is extremely likely that you didn't understand a good bit of it unless you called the credit card company itself and wrangled with them for hours to get someone to explain it to you or consulted a lawyer.
 
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Bill Mahar is a douche if not necessarily for the reason in the OP.

And the fact that fine print is fine means they are trying to be sneaky. I hate the idea of a nanny state but keeping transactions honest is not that.
 

Jmman

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Bill Maher is a douche of the highest order. I can't comment on what he said about the credit card industry, but his comment about our troops in Japan and Germany "needing to learn how to rape themselves" insinuating that our troops are all rapists was about the lowest comment I have ever heard someone say on national tv. Even his own audience of leftwing sychophants was shocked speechless........:|
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: brandonbull
I was channel surfing and Bill Maher was on a rant about how the 4k people being eliminated by Amex were worthless. The nerve of that used car salesmen to go on tv and talk about somebody's job not contributing to the economy. His job has to top the list of worthless jobs. The guy is a typical leftist elite.

He sits on his soap box and cries about how unfair it is for credit card companies to charge high interest rates. FYI Bill, nobody makes people use credit cards and if the rates are not acceptable, do not use them. I know that is a radical concept.

That guy is 100% waste of space and does not deserve to earn more than 50k/yr. I'm sure while he is driving around in his $100k+ cars the thought of how badly he is overpaid and how congress should enact laws to limit his pay never crosses his mind.

/rant

Not everything Bill Maher says and does is great, but this one is... I encourage you to read it and THINK about it.


The GOP: divorced from reality
The Republican base is behaving like a guy who just got dumped by his wife.
By Bill Maher
April 24, 2009
If conservatives don't want to be seen as bitter people who cling to their guns and religion and anti-immigrant sentiments, they should stop being bitter and clinging to their guns, religion and anti-immigrant sentiments.

It's been a week now, and I still don't know what those "tea bag" protests were about. I saw signs protesting abortion, illegal immigrants, the bank bailout and that gay guy who's going to win "American Idol." But it wasn't tax day that made them crazy; it was election day. Because that's when Republicans became what they fear most: a minority.

The conservative base is absolutely apoplectic because, because ... well, nobody knows. They're mad as hell, and they're not going to take it anymore. Even though they're not quite sure what "it" is. But they know they're fed up with "it," and that "it" has got to stop.

Here are the big issues for normal people: the war, the economy, the environment, mending fences with our enemies and allies, and the rule of law.

And here's the list of Republican obsessions since President Obama took office: that his birth certificate is supposedly fake, he uses a teleprompter too much, he bowed to a Saudi guy, Europeans like him, he gives inappropriate gifts, his wife shamelessly flaunts her upper arms, and he shook hands with Hugo Chavez and slipped him the nuclear launch codes.

Do these sound like the concerns of a healthy, vibrant political party?

It's sad what's happened to the Republicans. They used to be the party of the big tent; now they're the party of the sideshow attraction, a socially awkward group of mostly white people who speak a language only they understand. Like Trekkies, but paranoid.

The GOP base is convinced that Obama is going to raise their taxes, which he just lowered. But, you say, "Bill, that's just the fringe of the Republican Party." No, it's not. The governor of Texas, Rick Perry, is not afraid to say publicly that thinking out loud about Texas seceding from the Union is appropriate considering that ... Obama wants to raise taxes 3% on 5% of the people? I'm not sure exactly what Perry's independent nation would look like, but I'm pretty sure it would be free of taxes and Planned Parenthood. And I would have to totally rethink my position on a border fence.

I know. It's not about what Obama's done. It's what he's planning. But you can't be sick and tired of something someone might do.



Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota recently said she fears that Obama will build "reeducation" camps to indoctrinate young people. But Obama hasn't made any moves toward taking anyone's guns, and with money as tight as it is, the last thing the president wants to do is run a camp where he has to shelter and feed a bunch of fat, angry white people.

Look, I get it, "real America." After an eight-year run of controlling the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court, this latest election has you feeling like a rejected husband. You've come home to find your things out on the front lawn -- or at least more things than you usually keep out on the front lawn. You're not ready to let go, but the country you love is moving on. And now you want to call it a whore and key its car.

That's what you are, the bitter divorced guy whose country has left him -- obsessing over it, haranguing it, blubbering one minute about how much you love it and vowing the next that if you cannot have it, nobody will.

But it's been almost 100 days, and your country is not coming back to you. She's found somebody new. And it's a black guy.

The healthy thing to do is to just get past it and learn to cherish the memories. You'll always have New Orleans and Abu Ghraib.

And if today's conservatives are insulted by this, because they feel they're better than the people who have the microphone in their party, then I say to them what I would say to moderate Muslims: Denounce your radicals. To paraphrase George W. Bush, either you're with them or you're embarrassed by them.

The thing that you people out of power have to remember is that the people in power are not secretly plotting against you. They don't need to. They already beat you in public.
 
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Bill Mahar is like Al Sharpton. Half the things he says are very profound and right on the mark. The other half are so far out there that it undermines everything that might fall in the previous category.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: brandonbull
I was channel surfing and Bill Maher was on a rant about how the 4k people being eliminated by Amex were worthless. The nerve of that used car salesmen to go on tv and talk about somebody's job not contributing to the economy. His job has to top the list of worthless jobs. The guy is a typical leftist elite.

He sits on his soap box and cries about how unfair it is for credit card companies to charge high interest rates. FYI Bill, nobody makes people use credit cards and if the rates are not acceptable, do not use them. I know that is a radical concept.

That guy is 100% waste of space and does not deserve to earn more than 50k/yr. I'm sure while he is driving around in his $100k+ cars the thought of how badly he is overpaid and how congress should enact laws to limit his pay never crosses his mind.

/rant

You strike me as a typical right-wing elitist, blathering on about who should or shouldn't make more than $50k/year. Blah, blah, blah, f'ing blah. I know it's a radical concept, but if you don't think he's worth that much, or worth watching for that matter, don't watch his show. Duh.

 

KK

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Bill Mahar is like Al Sharpton. Half the things he says are very profound and right on the mark. The other half are so far out there that it undermines everything that might fall in the previous category.

No Bill is like the shit I flushed down the toilet.