One thing I've noticed about DTS is that the track is usually louder than Dolby Digital at the same volume on your reciever. To a lot of people who aren't trained, this appears to be a "increase" in sound quality because you can hear things better. I have found that many DTS DVDs do sound better than their DD mixes, most likely because of what kami has already said about mixes. That said, if you listen to Toy Story 1/2 or Episode I which are all THX Certified films recorded in Dolby Digital 5.1 EX, you will notice that the sound quality easily rivals DTS. The source mix is definitely an important aspect when watching a movie.
In terms of pirated Star Wars DVDs, the way I remember it is that our economy works off of supply and demand. And there certainly is a huge demand for Star Wars on DVD. In my opinion, if Lucas doesnt want to make the money off of the DVDs when there is obviously a huge demand for it then its his loss. I recall a quote from an interview on thedigitalbits.com with a person who fights DVD piracy stating that he understood why people would pirate Star Wars on DVD because its not available elsewhere. He went as far as saying that the popularity of piracy of the Star Wars DVD is directly caused by the fact that Lucas refuses to release it officially.
I'm not supporting piracy here, but I think Lucas needs to support his fans by releasing the original trilogy on DVD ... even if it is just a basic DVD with no extras, and then at a later time release something substantial. I remember hearing that the Star Wars trilogy would fit on ONE dual-layer double sided disc when people were originally touting how big DVDs truly were. If Lucas wanted to be nice, he would release 1 dual-layer double-sided DVD with the entire trilogy on it, and some trailers, and sell it at a competitive price ... People would buy it up like hot cakes and then do the exact same thing when the re-released "extras" version comes out.
In terms of pirated Star Wars DVDs, the way I remember it is that our economy works off of supply and demand. And there certainly is a huge demand for Star Wars on DVD. In my opinion, if Lucas doesnt want to make the money off of the DVDs when there is obviously a huge demand for it then its his loss. I recall a quote from an interview on thedigitalbits.com with a person who fights DVD piracy stating that he understood why people would pirate Star Wars on DVD because its not available elsewhere. He went as far as saying that the popularity of piracy of the Star Wars DVD is directly caused by the fact that Lucas refuses to release it officially.
I'm not supporting piracy here, but I think Lucas needs to support his fans by releasing the original trilogy on DVD ... even if it is just a basic DVD with no extras, and then at a later time release something substantial. I remember hearing that the Star Wars trilogy would fit on ONE dual-layer double sided disc when people were originally touting how big DVDs truly were. If Lucas wanted to be nice, he would release 1 dual-layer double-sided DVD with the entire trilogy on it, and some trailers, and sell it at a competitive price ... People would buy it up like hot cakes and then do the exact same thing when the re-released "extras" version comes out.
I think this is the question everyone's asking you. Your "it" isn't the genuine "it" so this comparison is moot, in this case. Since there's some debate about what was actually transferred to those discs... well, who really knows what your listening to.how do you know the quality if you don't even own it?
Now if you can bring something to compare that was the way the filmmakers and publishing house intended, then bring that forth.
Originally posted by: tenchim
I think this is the question everyone's asking you. Your "it" isn't the genuine "it" so this comparison is moot, in this case. Since there's some debate about what was actually transferred to those discs... well, who really knows what your listening to.how do you know the quality if you don't even own it?
Now if you can bring something to compare that was the way the filmmakers and publishing house intended, then bring that forth.
I only compared it to the vhs, Raincity is comparing the ld to the dvd, which i doubt he has either. So I only said the dvd is way better than the vhs. That's it.
you're right, lucas can do whatever he pleases. and i acknowledge that by purchasing the star wars dvds that were illegally made, i am depriving lucas of profits. it is the unethical and wrong thing to do. these are lucas' original creations, and someone else is making money off it without his permission.
unfortunately, i care more about owning star wars on dvd than who i buy them from. there is an emormous demand, and someone is meeting this demand. lucas could just release the last version of the trilogy that came out (which was the 3rd set i purchased) on dvd without any added extras and i would still buy it, as would millions of others, even if we knew the exact day and time his "ideal" dvd set would be released (because we would all buy that, too).
but i think the main reason people will continue to buy bootlegs is because there is no straightforward answer given by lucas why star wars wasn't the first dvd ever released. if lucas really cared about how people watched his movies, why are so many of them still on vhs? he has no obligation to all of the fans that have literally gave him billions of dollars (i'm actually being serious, he really doesn't), but it'd be nice to hear the real reason why we're still waiting for star wars 4-6 on dvd. if my choice is between lining the pockets of leeches or waiting 4 years for lucas to decide that it's then time to release the dvds, well... i can live with my conscience. the hundred thousand dollars or so that accounts for the star wars dvds being illegally purchased aren't going to bankrupt the entertainment industry.
i'm not going to address the part about going to buy $200 worth of obsolete equipment and media just so i can stay legal instead of the $35.99, but since you brought it up what did you think of everything else on the malaysian star wars dvds? your statement that the pic quality is better, etc. can only lead one to assume that you've seen both. because if you haven't, then you're just guessing and i've wasted the past 5 minutes debating a pointless argument for no reason.
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I recently bought the Star Wars Trilogy(ep4-6) on bootleg DVD for $38. These are the "Five Star" editions. They seem to come from the LD transfer. Video is very good for a bootleg. Audio on the otherhand is fair at best...it just sounds artificial.
I have personally viewed most of these bootlegs that come down the pike. Home theater and laser disc enthusiasts do meet together a few times a year to check out gear and personal HT setups and private film festivals like PC gamers have their lan parties. They are also availble for rent or sale in some of our local asian video stores.
I dont get the significants of your post. Do you even know what the term tiger country means ?
They are, Some are from the Definative collection and others are from the Trilogy Special Edition. Making a Laser to DVD transfer is not the same as ripping a dvd to get 1 for 1 transfer. There is a loss in video quality. Resolution will be better than standard VHS but you will get more color bleeding and more video noise in the tranfer.
Lucas has never publicy stated that the theatrical releases of EP 4/5/6 would never be released but has stated many times that it is doubtfull. Lucas has stated that he is not done with EP 4/5/6 yet and they are still unfinished. Jerry Goldsmith has already stated that alot of the scenes have already been rescored and they are still working on them to this day. Who knows what Lucas is planning to change- cut from the theatrical releases. Its his film, and if he wants us to forget about the original theatrical realeases because he wants us to view them the way he intends for us to view them, so be it, thats his choice. Lucas could make sh@t pot full of money right now releasing the original theatrical releases but chooses not do so, shows me that he has some integrity to his craft over the almighty greenback.
What you dont realize is that these counterfeiters are not just some guys in a back room pressing off nock-offs to sell in the streets. They are highly organized well funded, a well structured group that uses extortion and murder to keep there distribution going in 3 world ecomnomies. I dont know why buying a LD player and the Star wars disc's would be a issue for you. Alot of people have went that route. I five emails a week from people asking me advice on what low end players are good and what do I recomend they get.
I dont see any reason to doubt it. I have not given you any evidence to doubt my claims and if you dont believe me then thats your problem.
Rain
The bootleg copies NO. The Definitive and Trilogy Special edition Laser Disc Collections Yes. As I have already posted that I have viewed the pirated copies numerous times at home theater and laser disc meets on various systems. For the poster that paid 35$ you got ripped off. they sell for around 10$ in clandestine video shops around the country
Rain
The difference is that I dont prucahse from organizations that use extortion and murder as part of there business pratices. Some of the home theater enthusiasts have not ever lived outside North America and is not aware of who really profits from entertaiment counterfeiting. They think its a victim-less crime when its not.
Rain
Rain
but by merely watching a pirated copy as you say you have done, you are advocating piracy, why can't you understand that?
Your logic is flawed. Watching a film on a official or unofficial source media in is not a advocation of anything. Owning the media would be a advocation of piracy. By the way there is US Federal laws on the books for buying and owning unauthurized media like what you own. Go debate somebody else on this. I am through with you. If you think its a victim-less crime, then your wrong. Just remember that you reep what you sow in the end.
Rain
if you knowingly watch the movie, you are there by advocating the actions of the ones who bought the dvd. spin it any way you want.
I think you need to consult with Websters third edition first to find out the definition of advocate or advocation.
Rain
Rain
I had a question about coax and optical...
which is better, my understanding is optical is better , but only up to 1 meter after that you should use coax..
which is better, my understanding is optical is better , but only up to 1 meter after that you should use coax..
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