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Is it illegal?

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Originally posted by: TwinkleToes77
in regards to "is it legal?" ...

The people that we bought this place from havent forwarded their mailing address yet.. we moved in at the end of May. We have done the usual return to sender - moved.. but we still get a crapload of mail and have gotten tired of returning it to the mailbox ( we dont have one of those mailboxes at the house ). Is it illegal if i throw it away or hold it?

You can put in a request at the post office to hold or return all mail addressed to them

 
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: gwarbot
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
is she upset about you being gay because of the male to male...... adapter hmmm....



It doesn't matter why my mom is mad, if you could not crap my thread that would be great.

dude chill out, that was a joke based on a very old thread geez...

besides it does matter why your mom decides to withhold your mail..this is ATOT after all and dammit we need to know

besides have you considered maybe getting a P.O. Box..its a hassle and probably would suck if your doing FS/FT but at least she cant get a hold of your mail anymore.

I'll get a P.O Box tomarrow when i get paid.
My mom is pissed because one night after I got home from work, she wanted me to carry a whole bunch of table from the garage to the downstairs, I said hold on I shut the garage door and put the stuff in my arms away. When I opened the garage door she started screaming at me , she said that I made her sick to her stomach, and that she could'nt wait until I was 18 so she could kick me out. In response I said I hope you puke if I make you so sick. Then I went to my room, but my dad came in said I needed to leave for disrespecting my mom like that, I said ok, packed a bag and left. Now she is possibly stealing my mail.

 
The people who lived in our apartment before us failed to get their address changed. They have been gone at least 5 months now and we were still getting their bills. No one wanted to deal with it so we opened a cell bill and called them and they flipped out. We were nice about it and they were like federal crime for mail fraud, screw them, it got all thrown away.
 
Originally posted by: gwarbot
I'll get a P.O Box tomarrow when i get paid.
My mom is pissed because on night after I got home from work, she wanted me to carry a whole bunch of table from the garage to the downstairs, I hold on i shut the garage door and put the stuff in my arms away. When I opened the garage door she started screaming at me for saying, she said that I made her sick to her stomach, and that she could'nt wait until I was 18 so she could kick me out. In response I said I hope you puke if I make you so sick. Then I went to my room, but my dad came in said I needed to leave for disrespecting my mom like that, I said ok, packed a bag and left. Now she is possibly stealing my mail.

I expect that level of maturity from a 17 year old (no offense), but not from parents. Some people just aren't fit to raise kids.
 
Originally posted by: amdskip
The people who lived in our apartment before us failed to get their address changed. They have been gone at least 5 months now and we were still getting their bills. No one wanted to deal with it so we opened a cell bill and called them and they flipped out. We were nice about it and they were like federal crime for mail fraud, screw them, it got all thrown away.

yeah.. we are getting all their bank statements and crap like that.... youd think theyd have noticed by now.. however we arent getting cell phone bills.. probably because where they moved is the boonies and they dont get coverage.
 
Since you're a minor, it's unlikely there's anything illegal about this, just very mean.
 
Other than they F**** up a trade and now someone isn't getting they're stuff until I find out where all my stuff is, because an Item I sent may have came back, I didn't have a tracking number on it, but I need to ship it out again as soon as I can get my hands on it.
 
If you don't live at home, it probably is criminal. Particularly since they kicked you out. Have your mail forwarded to your current address, or get a PO Box (which you said you are). Try to get a copy of the signed confirmation, that should tell you who signed for it (depending on shipping options, it could have been a neighbor). I'm assuming the incident you describe is true, but simply the last straw.... If it was, indeed, your parents, confront them about it, but don't be a prick. Don't even mention the law unless they are willfully unreasonable - that will no doubt infuriate them (just the mention of it)...

While on the subject of mail law, don't forget to register with the Selective Services. Last I knew, you had to keep them updated of your current mailing address until you turn 26 (starting at age 18)...
 
Mail cannot be opened, destroyed, or otherwise tampered with by anyone except the addressee under Federal law. Legally, a wife cannot even open her husbands mail unless it is also addressed to her.

Amdskip, if you really threw out their mail, you could be fined by the Postmaster if you get caught.

Twinkletoes77, see above. Don't throw it out, just keep R.T.S. or ask your postman to stop delivering their mail. We put a note in our mailbox asking him to do so, and it helped, except if he's on vacation or subbing routes.

Also, one cannot open another person's mailbox unless it is on official Postal business. It is illegal to put fliers, newspapers, etcetera in someone's mailbox. That is why soliciting companies stick stuf on your doorknob, and why in some areas there are seperate "mailboxes" for the newspaper.
 
Originally posted by: gwarbot
I have a tracking number that says it was delivered, but I never received it, and my mom says it hasn't been delivered. But I think shes holding onto it. Also I have a package that I sent, but may have been returned and I don't know yet because I think my mom is holding onto my mail.

Then call FedEx/UPS and ask who signed for it. Tell them it shows delivered but you didn't receive it. They will tell you who signed for it.
 
sounds like some BS to me. i think he is trying to cover his bases incase whatever trade he is doing goes bad, or already is going bad and he wants to be able to point to this thread as "proof" he was trying to do the right thing but got screwed somehow. just my .02.
 
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: gwarbot
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
is she upset about you being gay because of the male to male...... adapter hmmm....



It doesn't matter why my mom is mad, if you could not crap my thread that would be great.

dude chill out, that was a joke based on a very old thread geez...

besides it does matter why your mom decides to withhold your mail..this is ATOT after all and dammit we need to know

besides have you considered maybe getting a P.O. Box..its a hassle and probably would suck if your doing FS/FT but at least she cant get a hold of your mail anymore.

yes, i actually did appreciate the humor in that. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: gwarbot
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
is she upset about you beign gay because of the male to male...... adapter hmmm....



It doesn't matter why my mom is mad, if you could not crap my thread that would be great.

no i think if you're dealing with "mail fraud" and your parents, you have bigger issues to work out with, not just mail fraud or whatever you want to call it. maybe you need to settle things before complaining
 
Originally posted by: gwarbot
I'll get a P.O Box tomarrow when i get paid.
My mom is pissed because on night after I got home from work, she wanted me to carry a whole bunch of table from the garage to the downstairs, I hold on i shut the garage door and put the stuff in my arms away. When I opened the garage door she started screaming at me for saying, she said that I made her sick to her stomach, and that she could'nt wait until I was 18 so she could kick me out. In response I said I hope you puke if I make you so sick. Then I went to my room, but my dad came in said I needed to leave for disrespecting my mom like that, I said ok, packed a bag and left. Now she is possibly stealing my mail.

Wow, could your story be anymore confusing? First off, your grammar is poor. It's making it very difficult to understand what you are trying to explain about your parents. Second, even if your grammar was understandable, what you wrote isn't very logical or coherent contextually.

You make no sense whatsoever about your mom screaming at you for what again? So you shut the garage door, then opened it up again and then your mom said she was going to puke? WTF? Does anyone else NOT understand wtf he just said in that paragraph?

You don't go to school do you?
 
Originally posted by: HonkeyDonk
Originally posted by: gwarbot
I'll get a P.O Box tomarrow when i get paid.
My mom is pissed because on night after I got home from work, she wanted me to carry a whole bunch of table from the garage to the downstairs, I hold on i shut the garage door and put the stuff in my arms away. When I opened the garage door she started screaming at me for saying, she said that I made her sick to her stomach, and that she could'nt wait until I was 18 so she could kick me out. In response I said I hope you puke if I make you so sick. Then I went to my room, but my dad came in said I needed to leave for disrespecting my mom like that, I said ok, packed a bag and left. Now she is possibly stealing my mail.

Wow, could your story be anymore confusing? First off, your grammar is poor. It's making it very difficult to understand what you are trying to explain about your parents. Second, even if your grammar was understandable, what you wrote isn't very logical or coherent contextually.

You make no sense whatsoever about your mom screaming at you for what again? So you shut the garage door, then opened it up again and then your mom said she was going to puke? WTF? Does anyone else NOT understand wtf he just said in that paragraph?

You don't go to school do you?


My mom is pissed because on night after I got home from work, she wanted me to carry a whole bunch of table from the garage to the downstairs, I hold on i shut the garage door and put the stuff in my arms away. When I opened the garage door she started screaming at me for saying, she said that I made her sick to her stomach, and that she could'nt wait until I was 18 so she could kick me out. In response I said I hope you puke if I make you so sick. Then I went to my room, but my dad came in said I needed to leave for disrespecting my mom like that, I said ok, packed a bag and left. Now she is possibly stealing my mail.

wtf I though I fixed this,I went back and edited it. Well I though so.
I was freaking out not caring about grammar, I was trying to quickly state my problem.
But,failed.

 
Ok I got things kinda worked out, I talked to my mom in a civil manner.
I told her what I did wrong apologized,then asked If I could have my mail.
She yelled at me for a little bit, then handed over my mail.
 
Originally posted by: gwarbot
Originally posted by: HonkeyDonk
Originally posted by: gwarbot
I'll get a P.O Box tomarrow when i get paid.
My mom is pissed because on night after I got home from work, she wanted me to carry a whole bunch of table from the garage to the downstairs, I hold on i shut the garage door and put the stuff in my arms away. When I opened the garage door she started screaming at me for saying, she said that I made her sick to her stomach, and that she could'nt wait until I was 18 so she could kick me out. In response I said I hope you puke if I make you so sick. Then I went to my room, but my dad came in said I needed to leave for disrespecting my mom like that, I said ok, packed a bag and left. Now she is possibly stealing my mail.

Wow, could your story be anymore confusing? First off, your grammar is poor. It's making it very difficult to understand what you are trying to explain about your parents. Second, even if your grammar was understandable, what you wrote isn't very logical or coherent contextually.

You make no sense whatsoever about your mom screaming at you for what again? So you shut the garage door, then opened it up again and then your mom said she was going to puke? WTF? Does anyone else NOT understand wtf he just said in that paragraph?

You don't go to school do you?


My mom is pissed because on night after I got home from work, she wanted me to carry a whole bunch of table from the garage to the downstairs, I hold on i shut the garage door and put the stuff in my arms away. When I opened the garage door she started screaming at me for saying, she said that I made her sick to her stomach, and that she could'nt wait until I was 18 so she could kick me out. In response I said I hope you puke if I make you so sick. Then I went to my room, but my dad came in said I needed to leave for disrespecting my mom like that, I said ok, packed a bag and left. Now she is possibly stealing my mail.

wtf I though I fixed this,I went back and edited it. Well I though so.
I was freaking out not caring about grammar, I was trying to quickly state my problem.
But,failed.

It still sounds like sh!t. Learn to use commas and PROOF-READ what you are writing.
 
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