Is it difficult to install a water softener?

kt

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What kind of water softener? You will most likely need a drain too.
 

Apple Of Sodom

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I can't see the image, but they are easy to install. I would recommend using pex tubing to put it in the loop, if possible.
 

thecoolnessrune

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Super simple, you already have the connections for install available. The center valve will be closed, and you'll connect the incoming water pipe to the incoming side of your softener, and then connect the outgoing side of then softener to the side of your pipes going into your home water system.

Your main issue is if you have salt dosage settings, you need a test of your water to know where to set it. You can get a testing kit for that stuff at anywhere catering to aquariums and sometimes pool supplies.

As also said, you'll need to run a tube to your drain. I used small PVC pipe all the way up to a few inches from the softener's drain and then connected them together with flex pipe.

Also, use stainless steel flexible hoses to connect your water softener to your water supply. Those things can sometimes move, and tilt during operation. No big deal, but you don't want to put any unneeded stress on your water pipes!
 

WHAMPOM

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Found a good deal on a water softener (thanks for the help ATOT), and now I have to install it. I have this connection in the basement, is that basically what I'd need to be able to install it?

Thanks!

Looks like you have the valves with bypass all set for the installation. Are the valve ends threaded or solder? You will need a ground fault recepticle to plug in the softener. You should check your building codes for where the drain should go.
 

bolomite

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I can tell you from personal experience with softeners like the one you bought (single-vessel, brands like Watts, GE, Kenmore) -- they are mostly junk. The price you paid - it's that inexpensive for a reason.

Problems I've seen with those: poor electronics, not customizable, no battery backup in case of power outage, clogged nozzles/venturi, difficult to service

If you really want a high quality unit, go with valves made by Fleck or Clack. You can find online vendors who sell a kit with all components, so that you can assemble the softener yourself (not difficult at all, minimal tools).
 

mvbighead

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I'm guessing that under the bottom two valves there are screw on heads? If so, flex steel tubing with the right ends would do the trick quite easily.
 

DougK62

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Super easy to install.

As the other person suggested, you'd be way better off buying a quality product from an online vendor. You'll get MUCH better equipment for just a bit more money and a real expert will help you size it correctly to your circumstances.
 

skyking

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As mentioned the salt will not be good for the sump pump. This is not a problem if you have easy access to the gravity portion of your sewer system. You can run the brine tank overflow to the sump, since it rarely if ever discharges. The purge line can be run to a drain higher than it is, provided you drop it into a trap with an air gap.
 

TXHokie

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Anyone have experience with the saltless water softener like the Nuvo? (http://www.nuvoh2o.com/). My plumber recommend that since it's simpler and doesn't waste water and salt bag refills. Just swap out filter every six months. My new (old) house has one of those old school system and seems like the tank is shot and need replaced which probably make more sense to just get a new system.
 

Elixer

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Anyone have experience with the saltless water softener like the Nuvo? (http://www.nuvoh2o.com/). My plumber recommend that since it's simpler and doesn't waste water and salt bag refills. Just swap out filter every six months. My new (old) house has one of those old school system and seems like the tank is shot and need replaced which probably make more sense to just get a new system.

Frankly, the ones I have seen are BS. They don't soften the water at all, in fact, I don't know how they can get away with calling it a softener.
It should be called a descalers, since all it does is filter out large particles.
If you have hard water, you will still have hard water when it goes through the filter, and the filter does trap some stuff, but that is about it.
 

Leymenaide

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Remember you need an electric outlet near the installation. It is all basic stuff but will need tools and parts shopping list. Have you worked with copper? It is not difficult but takes a little knowledge.
 

thecoolnessrune

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Yeah if the copper is not threaded, you would probably want to solder on some threaded fittings (the idea is you want to be able to conveniently take the water softener out of the loop if needed). If you can't, or don't want to do it, you or your parents might be able to just pay someone to come out and put the fittings on. It's not exceedingly difficult to do and shouldn't cost much if you want to pay someone to do it :)

If you are using an extension cord, make sure to get an extension cord with a built in GFCI outlet. It's very important when mixing water and electricity! :D
 

BoomerD

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Considering your...difficulty with installing some coax...I suspect this might be above your skill level...hire a professional.


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