I know someone who's family who has ridiculus amounts of money and wants to invest $1500 on phase change cooling, he's never built a computer in his life and I told him liquid cooling would be over his head too, how do you talk a noob out of this? His system costs around $2400 without the cooling system so I don't want to see him lose a lot of money by killing his conroe when he gets one, can you ruin a phase change cooler as well. The cooler cools two video cards and a cpu, so could he kill 3 chips and a cooler as well? Thanks.
Is it difficult to install a phase change cooling system?
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Isn't there a saying... A fool and his money shall soon be parted?
Sometimes you have to let people make mistakes... that's the only way they'll learn.
Sometimes you have to let people make mistakes... that's the only way they'll learn.
Cooling 3 chips with a single compressor? o_o
Suicidal, IMO. I don't think anything availible could cool that even half-decently.
Tell him to buy 3 seperate phase systems, one for each
If the guy wants to buy one, let him. He has the money to spend, and it's his to lose, as well. Look on the bright side, he might give you the phase system after he fries it all
Honestly though, he should just consider buying a pre-built phase system from some place like Extreme Prometia.
In fact, here's a perfect system for him:
http://www.extremeprometeia.com/acatalog/The_Hurricane.html
I'm sure Phil would even do a Conroe upgrade when the time rolls around. If this guy has the cash, he shouldn't mind.
-Trevor
Suicidal, IMO. I don't think anything availible could cool that even half-decently.
Tell him to buy 3 seperate phase systems, one for each
If the guy wants to buy one, let him. He has the money to spend, and it's his to lose, as well. Look on the bright side, he might give you the phase system after he fries it all
Honestly though, he should just consider buying a pre-built phase system from some place like Extreme Prometia.
In fact, here's a perfect system for him:
http://www.extremeprometeia.com/acatalog/The_Hurricane.html
I'm sure Phil would even do a Conroe upgrade when the time rolls around. If this guy has the cash, he shouldn't mind.
-Trevor
Alright thanks, I'm not too sure if having 3 evaporators on one system is such a great idea, can you imagine 3 diffrent systems? $3000 worth of cooling, more than the computer costs.
edit: I found one online, consumes nearly 500 watts!Triple Evaporator PCC
edit: I found one online, consumes nearly 500 watts!Triple Evaporator PCC
Bragging rights and a way to show he has a lot of money.
edit: I suppose I should let him try it, if he messes up maybe he would sell me the pcc cooler, although I don't know much on how to install one, I've never used cpu cooling other than air before.
thecoolnessrune
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If he doesn't overclock as well, wont the CPU just get a coldbug? I'd think hed have to throw on some rediculous amounts of voltage to the CPU as well to keep it from not working due to low temps.
Not necessarily, Conroe may not cold bug like the Opties do.... however, there is no way a n00b should ever go for phase change. Im still a little scared of phase change, and im pretty damned confident otherwise.
Elfear
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Monster overclock if he knew what he was doing.
Can you imagine a Conroe at 4.0GHz and Crossfired X1900XT's at 800/1900. Some do. At very low temps (generally -90C or below if I remember right) the cpus don't want to boot. Some guys use LN2 to sit right on the threshhold and some heat up the cpu first to get temps up and than engage the phase change unit. THe extreme overclockers know all the ins and outs of subzero cooling.
Originally posted by: Elfear
Monster overclock if he knew what he was doing.
Some do. At very low temps (generally -90C or below if I remember right) the cpus don't want to boot. Some guys use LN2 to sit right on the threshhold and some heat up the cpu first to get temps up and than engage the phase change unit. THe extreme overclockers know all the ins and outs of subzero cooling.
Frame rates that still aren't high enouph for some?
Cold bugs can actually happen much higher than that, usually anything below the -30C range.
Also, liquid nitrogen is colder than phase change....just thought I'd point that out.
--Trevor
Also, liquid nitrogen is colder than phase change....just thought I'd point that out.
Substantially colder
--Trevor
Elfear
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Thanks, I wasn't quite sure about the temp range. Didn't know it occured that high.
Also, liquid nitrogen is colder than phase change....just thought I'd point that out.
Substantially colder
--Trevor
LN2 is colder by itself, but when put in a mousepot it's easier to regulate the temperature of the cpu vs. a phase change unit. Here is a recent quote from one of the overclocking world record holders, Crotale.
"We use one Natrium Cascade on the CPU and one Overklokk Cascade on the master card. The slave card is cold bugged so we use LN2 for that one." (cascade = phase change for those not familiar with the term).
Billb2
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Well, here ya go, just hook it up and plug it in. LOL!! http://www.frozencpu.com/cas-339.html
Cooler Express "Hydra" SLI Phase Change Triple Evaporator Hyper-Cooling Unit (1 CPU, 2 GPUs) - FREE ALPHACOOL KIT Price: $1,699.99
Praxis1452
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It sucks. 1 compressor for SLI+CPU... kinda useless. Might as well go water+chiller. Better yet send me the money.
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