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sm625

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Sell it while you can. Even at 4GHz it is still a huge bottleneck. Even at 8GHz it wouldnt be as fast as a stock 4670K in many areas.
 

AnitaPeterson

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As one who has always advocated "hand-me-downs" and encouraged people to donate their old equipment to less fortunate ones, all this discussion about wanton destruction sickens me.

You have a quad-core CPU, which in real-life situations is just as fast, stable and powerful as some of the newest parts produced in 2013. And you want to destroy it just because you want to smell burnt silicon.

Meanwhile, there are millions of young people out there who can't even imagine having a computer that runs faster than their 1.4 GHz P4, received through a Red Cross donation....

Horrible.
 

pauldun170

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As one who has always advocated "hand-me-downs" and encouraged people to donate their old equipment to less fortunate ones, all this discussion about wanton destruction sickens me.

You have a quad-core CPU, which in real-life situations is just as fast, stable and powerful as some of the newest parts produced in 2013. And you want to destroy it just because you want to smell burnt silicon.

Meanwhile, there are millions of young people out there who can't even imagine having a computer that runs faster than their 1.4 GHz P4, received through a Red Cross donation....

Horrible.

Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
 

SPBHM

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donate or sell it on ebay or something...

a q6600 like this is still pretty fast, and it's worth as much as some lower end new CPUs, it's no Pentium 100.
 

Andy in Sactown

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As one who has always advocated "hand-me-downs" and encouraged people to donate their old equipment to less fortunate ones, all this discussion about wanton destruction sickens me.

You have a quad-core CPU, which in real-life situations is just as fast, stable and powerful as some of the newest parts produced in 2013. And you want to destroy it just because you want to smell burnt silicon.

Meanwhile, there are millions of young people out there who can't even imagine having a computer that runs faster than their 1.4 GHz P4, received through a Red Cross donation....

Horrible.

First-off, don't presume because I am having some fun with now replaceable component(s) that I don't engage in charitable endevours. In fact, when I upgrade or build computers for my friends and family they often give me their old systems, which I go through, often upgrade from my own parts bins and then DONATE to the red-cross (where my mother volunteers as a mental health professional).

Don't give me this, 'I'm disgusted' moral superiority when you know nothing about me; "..can't even imagine having a computer that runs faster than their 1.4 GHz P4, received through a Red Cross donation" just might be a system I refurbished (sent 3 so far this year; and those are complete systems, with hours of my time into making them relatively turn-key).

I'm a veteran that goes to school on my post-9/11 G.I. Bill and I work full-time to support my household. Computer engineering is my major and my passion; thought I could come here and share something fun I am doing without all the righteous indignation.

/rant-off

P.S. The next 0.25v's for you. Let's get sweaty.

Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Nice reference!~ :thumbsup:
 
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Jacky60

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You have fun with it, congrats on the 4ghz, veteran CPU's like that deserve to die in action and while I understand people wanting you to donate it they're presuming way too much. I too volunteer and give a decent amount to charity and I totally understand the fun in pushing it to the limit, your comrade deserves a glorious death not a dusty shelf in a computer retirement landfill site wetting it's bed. Hopefully you can push further before its sent to a needy person or CPU Valhalla.
 
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AnitaPeterson

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OP, I am sorry that my "righteous indignation" is so insufferable to you.

But guess what? Once you posted the thread, you have no control over it, and you definitely cannot decide what people will say about your actions. That's part of that thing called "free speech" (including "the right to disagree"), which in turn is part of what you signed up to defend, as a G.I.

If all you expected was praise, I'm sorry to disappoint you... I see you're new around here, so perhaps you thought this forum is composed exclusively of "Will it blend?" type of people. Well, it's not.
 

ChronoReverse

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But guess what? Once you posted the thread, you have no control over it, and you definitely cannot decide what people will say about your actions. That's part of that thing called "free speech" (including "the right to disagree")

That's true and that's also why we have the right call you out and continue to call you out as an being a huge jerk in the thread.

It goes both ways.
 

KingFatty

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I say you should bust out the video camera, crank up the computer and CPU to max, remove the CPU's heatsink while it's running, and then crack an egg over it and cook it. Post the video to youtube, and you are guaranteed to make some cash off of the views. Whether to eat the computer omelet is at your discretion, but you can donate the youtube video proceeds to charity.

Edit: you could say you sacrificed the chip to new-egg.
 
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Centauri

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Man, this thread is full of hippies now. What a bummer. I was looking forward to seeing it progress.
 

buklau

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Personally I would just sell it on ebay, get some cash and then invest into the new system you are building. You can donate money to charities such as red cross, but you never know how much you donated actually being distributed to people who needs them. The link below is a good example. :hmm:

http://news.yahoo.com/much-red-cross-fund-sandy-aid-still-unspent-064615771.html

I'm not trying to general all charities are all bad, but if I were to donate something, I would rather give the money or items directly to the person who actually needs them. So that way I know they actually received what they need instead of going through a charity organization.
 

monkeydelmagico

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Meanwhile, there are millions of young people out there who can't even imagine having a computer that runs faster than their 1.4 GHz P4, received through a Red Cross donation....

Horrible.

Never heard of red cross giving computers to the needy. Are you sure in your haste to rush up the soapbox you misjudged the height?

The OP's box might get a one way ticket on a cargo ship to India for melt down instead. Good job on giving some reverse lottery winner some extra cancer to go with their healthy serving of poverty.
 

Andy in Sactown

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Man, this thread is full of hippies now. What a bummer. I was looking forward to seeing it progress.

Don't worry, once all my new parts are here I'll get back to business.

Hell.. going to have to start a new thread, or post on a haswell delid thread as soon as I unpackage my wares (going to be super-fun-- need to buy a vice)!

Any bets on the highest I can get the Q6600.. I have a feeling my NB is going to melt through the board before the chip gives up the ghost.. 4.2GHz? Buklau set a pretty high bar..
 
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ChronoReverse

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I still think you'll be FSB/RAM limited so I'm going to be a downer and predict 4.3GHz but the CPU survives.
 

Ajay

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Fade away. I still have a Q6600 doing home server duty. Used to run it @ 3.6 GHz (air cooled) on my main PC 5 years ago. Great chip and a trooper at that :)
 

Maximilian

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Remove the heatsink while its running prime or something, see what happens. Lots of people say oh itll be fine its downclock itself, nothing happens blah blah etc, I think it will go up in a ball of flames. Try it! Thats the last video anyone did of this and its a bit outdated:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y39D4529FM4

If nothing does happen, maybe put some water on the bare chip and see what happens then. Be safe though! :thumbsup:

Also for the "donate it" crew, think of it this way, he can donate it and please 1 person or wreck it up and please many people on here. So really its best if he does something wild with the chip :)
 

Centauri

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I say destroy the CPU for the betterment of the forum and send off an old DDR2 stick or something to the Haitian children.

Win-win.
 

tolis626

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Remove the heatsink while its running prime or something, see what happens. Lots of people say oh itll be fine its downclock itself, nothing happens blah blah etc, I think it will go up in a ball of flames. Try it! Thats the last video anyone did of this and its a bit outdated:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y39D4529FM4

If nothing does happen, maybe put some water on the bare chip and see what happens then. Be safe though! :thumbsup:

Also for the "donate it" crew, think of it this way, he can donate it and please 1 person or wreck it up and please many people on here. So really its best if he does something wild with the chip :)

Today in anatomy class I watched a dead person get opened up,only to go on and try to remove his whole digestive tract.The room did have a rather unpleasant smell of formaldehyde (What's the aquatic solution used in medicine called in English?Formalin I think?) and...Yeah.You get the whole picture.

Watching the video you just posted was more brutal than that.And it reminded me of a similar "crime" I commited about 4 years ago,when I overclocked my trusty old AMD Athlon 3000 and forgot to plug in the cooler.It almost went nuclear.Good thing silicon can't undergo fission!

Aaaaand to post something on the topic : Do your thing.It's your CPU.You want to burn it?Burn it.If,however,it does survive any tortures you can concoct,I'd make a nice server PC/HTPC with it and call it a day.I wouldn't donate a CPU I've used and abused personally.I'd feel really bad if the guy/gal I gave it to had the thing die within a month of having it.That's just my opinion though!
 

2is

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I haven't read all the posts so I don't know if the CPU is still alive or not, but I would do some passive cooling tests before doing suicide runs. See what you can clock (under or over) it to passively before it starts to throttle while playing a game. That's what I'd do
 

cytg111

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put it in a microwave oven and burry it in the backyard.
Next to the mobo, harddrives, screen mouse and keyboard etc.
That way, when the EMP nuke hits or a solar storm erupts, you sir, will have a backup plan.
.... You'll be thanking me then .. I promise ..
 

stockwiz

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CPU's die like people. Some of us die slow, boring deaths and we cling to life like scared little kittens. Then the better half of us go out with a bang, like wing suit gliding into the face of en epic cliff! Send that CPU into a cliff!


Ego boosting judgements about which people are 'better' aside, I'd say donate it to someone... what use is frying an old chip for a brief 10-15% performance improvement that still doesn't make the chip compare with modern ones?

I suppose after it's dead you could do a youtube video watching the chip get destroyed in slow motion by a .50 bullet like this guy did with a ps4.

Gotta 'go out with a bang' ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dvWGY2bAd0

To me frying a chip in this manner would be boring and not provide any satisfaction.. I guess everyone has their turn-ons.
 
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rtsurfer

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Ego boosting judgements about which people are 'better' aside, I'd say donate it to someone... what use is frying an old chip for a brief 10-15% performance improvement that still doesn't make the chip compare with modern ones?

I suppose after it's dead you could do a youtube video watching the chip get destroyed in slow motion by a .50 bullet like this guy did with a ps4.

Gotta 'go out with a bang' ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dvWGY2bAd0

To me frying a chip in this manner would not be boring and not provide any satisfaction.. I guess everyone has their turn-ons.

Off-topic

Damnnnnnm.

That video was awesome...

Gotta watch more.