Is it Asians in general, or just foreign student asians...

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: daveymark
I've had this experience with foreigners as well. It's just not something they learned in their culture. It's the same reason they don't tip well in restaurants. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just not something they do, they have other ways of showing respect.

for instance, in belgium, they are impressed if you greet a business contact with three kisses on the cheek. If you don't do this, they know you must be a foreigner. No one will call a Belgian a racist if he wonders why foreign americans don't kiss three times on the cheek. It's just not something americans/foreginers do in their culture.

Kind of makes you want to do business with a hot Belgian babe.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: ironcrotch

You're being closed minded by assuming that foreign people can easily assimilate to your cultural norms. You're closed minded cuz you don't realize that they might have the same values as you in their home country. You're being closed minded cuz you're expecting them to hold the same values as you, and if they don't they are "rude". How are they suppose to know that it might not be courteous if don't say thank you.

Wrong.

He asked a question, he didn't assume anything. If he already had an assumption, he wouldn't bother asking the question.

Sure he did. Did you not read his thread title? He's assuming asians are rude, but he's just not sure WHICH ones... if it's generalized to all asians, or just foreign.

Did you not read the actual post?

Can you morons just STFU with your PC whinning and answer the damn question.

God people are WAY too PC these days.

I can't answer the question, because i haven't met most asians yet. When i do, i'll post my answer here.

Good enough.

I will try to answer. I work in a multi-cultural atmosphere. The company I work for has a global presence and we have people all over the world. Our company promotes us going overseas for stints and trying to learn the company as a whole.

That being said...I really think it depends on the individual. Some people are willing to learn and accept other cultures. I've seem Europeans and Asians that will hold the door and elevators for women. I've also seen people from the same culture just flat out walk in front of people and be rude as hell.

Same thing goes for Americans. Some people are willing to learn about different cultures and religions. Some arent.

I agree. It's comes down to a willingness to learn.

 

[zoiks]

Does eating Sea Urchins have anything to do with this?

 

[mb]

Let this thread be a lesson to anyone who feels like asking a question on the internet about something they don't know :roll:

Get over yourself people.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: JackRipper

Originally posted by: jEct2

They don't usually hold doors and openly say thank you as much because that is simply the sheer difference of culture. We just don't do it ususally, nothing more and nothing less. If you see that as being 'rude' then you have an ignorance problem. That is same as Asians observing Americans are rude with opening their mouths before careful thinking or picking up a spoon before elders at a dinner table. (It's polite to wait until the oldest start eating first.)

It is simply a culture crash.

If Stefan was an Asian in Asia and saw foreign Americans behaved their ways, you would immediately label them as being rude as well. Only the wise may recognize that it is the difference of culture and no offense was intended by either culture.

/thread

Just like we dont really say "bless you" when some sneezes...

-JR

I don't really consider that to be rude because it's simply polite to say bless you. Not holding a door is just rude IMHO because it's almost like slamming a door on someone. Not thanking someone who holds the door for you is also very rude, because it sort of implies that you are this person's freaking servent or something and that they are entitled to service from me or something. I also think it rude when after having said "bless you" that someone doesn't thank you or acknowledge you after that.

As an aside, I found a very wierd response to me saying "bless you" in the south. I got wierd responses in that people just kept mum and gave me weird looks - even people who I work with and constantly had to talk to. I sort think it had to do with the fact that I'm not Christian and I suppose hearing "bless you" from a non-Christian threw them off. I don't really know.

 

[bleeb]

Originally posted by: d3lta
stefan=hidden white supremacist

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: zoiks
Does eating Sea Urchins have anything to do with this?

Sea Urchins are good. Wolfgang Puck seems to agree: http://www.catalinaop.com/slideshow/

 

[busmaster11]

Well, lets turn the tables here a bit... Why is it that when white folks enter my house they refuse to take off their shoes? My floor is not the street, why do they treat it that way? Why do they wear gym shoes or street shoes runnning around their own houses? Thats filthy!

Just a matter of culture I guess.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: busmaster11
Well, lets turn the tables here a bit... Why is it that when white folks enter my house they refuse to take off their shoes? My floor is not the street, why do they treat it that way? Why do they wear gym shoes or street shoes runnning around their own houses? Thats filthy!

Just a matter of culture I guess.

On this I have to agree. It's common sense to take your shoes off inside your house, who wants all the dirt from the streets on their floors and carpets? Now watch some moron argue about why it's better to wear your shoes in the house just as some moron tried to argue a few weeks ago that wasting food is alright. Not all white people do it though.

 

[RabidMongoose]

It must be many different types of foreign students since I've also experienced similar stuff with other types of students (such as Indians). There's just a different set of personal space, etiquette, and so on.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: Sluggo

Originally posted by: ironcrotch

Originally posted by: Stefan

Originally posted by: ironcrotch
I think it's just you being closed minded.

I'm being closed minded by asking a question?

You're being closed minded by assuming that foreign people can easily assimilate to your cultural norms. You're closed minded cuz you don't realize that they might have the same values as you in their home country. You're being closed minded cuz you're expecting them to hold the same values as you, and if they don't they are "rude". How are they suppose to know that it might not be courteous if don't say thank you.

But when Americans go to a foreign country and dont know the local customs and manage to make asses of themselves, they are immediately labeled ugly Americans, rather than being excused as unknowing of local practices.

True, but if you've been abroad and seen how some Americans abroad act - as if they own the place - you'd know that it isn't about a lack of understanding of fine details of local etiquette, but often a lack of basic universal etiquette altogether.

No, it's more of a double standard, especially since Americans are consistently ranked as some of the best tourists in the entire world. There are so many that people like to concentrate on the few bad ones they see.

 

[Landroval]

Originally posted by: busmaster11
Well, lets turn the tables here a bit... Why is it that when white folks enter my house they refuse to take off their shoes? My floor is not the street, why do they treat it that way? Why do they wear gym shoes or street shoes runnning around their own houses? Thats filthy!

Just a matter of culture I guess.

They actually refuse? I would tell them to stay outside on the lanai.

 

[busmaster11]

Originally posted by: Landroval

Originally posted by: busmaster11
Well, lets turn the tables here a bit... Why is it that when white folks enter my house they refuse to take off their shoes? My floor is not the street, why do they treat it that way? Why do they wear gym shoes or street shoes runnning around their own houses? Thats filthy!

Just a matter of culture I guess.

They actually refuse? I would tell them to stay outside on the lanai.

They don't refuse, but they might conveniently forget, even while observing you take your shoes off...

My best friend who was Italian in second grade (and still is...) one time insisted that I jump up on his BED with my gym shoes on to grab something from a shelf... He thought it was weird that I tried to take them off...

If there's one place in my home thats always sacredly clean, its my bed...

 

[Yax]

If you ask a question about someone or some culture, but make a comment like "how rude..." before getting an answer, are you really expecting others to assume you were sincere in your questioning?

 

[busmaster11]

Originally posted by: busmaster11
Well, lets turn the tables here a bit... Why is it that when white folks enter my house they refuse to take off their shoes? My floor is not the street, why do they treat it that way? Why do they wear gym shoes or street shoes runnning around their own houses? Thats filthy!

Just a matter of culture I guess.

I was still hoping to see what Stefan thinks of this...