Is 'hot saucing' discipline or abuse?

[TheNinja]

It's abuse if the mother is mad and she's doing it to inflict vengeance or revenge.

It's discipline if it's established ahead of time that it's the punishment for misdeeds, and if she handles discipline without showing anger...

IMO, It's no worse that putting soap in a mouth for swearing...

That's the key. I spanked (like very lightly, didn't even hurt my kid) once b/c I was getting so fed up with his crap. But I did it b/c I lost my cool for a second. Man, did I feel bad for doing that. I still do and it was like 4 months ago. However, if I tell the kid "if you get out of bed again, you're getting a spanking", then he gets out I follow through and don't feel bad.

I would not "hot sauce" my kid though. Some people are very sensative to hot sauce and it could really hurt without you knowing how bad you are hurting them. Plus they might associate spicy foods with discipline and I wouldn't want that for my kids. Also, I think it would be double pain b/c the hot sauce would burn their o-ring on the way out.

 

[Cerb]

In and of itself I don't think the hot sauce is abuse, but the full punishment seems overboard for the offense watching that video.

Pretty much what I was going to say. I'm going to side with abuse, but not due to the type of punishment. Rather, due to it being given harshly, with clear lack of emotional control, and the boy's clear lack of caring about anything except the punishment. He's not going to stop undesired behavior--he's just going to hate his adopted mother, who is lashing out in anger, more than providing discipline.

Also, WTH is with pulling cards?

probably doesn't work on korean, thai and mexican kids.

I have none of those in me, and I shake some hot sauce into my mouth when I pass by it in the kitchen. I easily consume about 1/3 of it that way. Also, I've had Mexican workers at hole-in-the-wall restaurants (where the food isn't spicy hot, and chilis are extra condiments) be surprised that I could just eat jalapenos (they burn, and make me sweat and all, but I love them)...and I know other plain old white guys of European ancestry that can weird me out with ability to calmly consume capsaicin.

 

[shopbruin]

Korean actually.

Also, tons of people would be surprised as to the interesting forms of punishment asians can come up with.

Did you have to kneel with your arms held above your head?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Did you have to kneel with your arms held above your head?

When I was a kid. After 10 years old, that is too meh to do anything. That's when the wooden bats start coming out.

My personal record was 2 hours. I couldn't use my arms for 2 days after that.

 

[ShawnD1]

I would not "hot sauce" my kid though. Some people are very sensative to hot sauce and it could really hurt without you knowing how bad you are hurting them. Plus they might associate spicy foods with discipline and I wouldn't want that for my kids.

That would explain why so many men are afraid of soap. You know how hand towels turn black after a while? That's what happens when people "wash" with water but no soap and wipe it on the towels.

 

[LumbergTech]

It depends on how it is administered although honestly I think that punishments like that are for parents who are just stupid and can't think of a way to actually teach their kid a lesson.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

The punishment isn't so bad, it's the way it was administered. The kid will grow up not liking his mother.

 

[waggy]

hmm i really don't see a issue with it. if it works it works.

I'm all for avoiding physical punishment if possible. but sometimes its needed.

i don't see it worse then getting soap in the mouth.

 

[ImpulsE69]

It is abuse. That kid will never enjoy hot sauce now!

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

This is a punishment?

One of my earliest memories is being young enough to be still sitting in a high chair on a Saturday with my Dad home. He worked two jobs and we usually only got to see him at dinner time. He liked hot, spicy food and usually had a jar of pickled jalapenos or hot giardiniera on the table. So, he gave me a whole jalapeno. I thought anything my Dad gave me was great. I was crunching away with tears running down my face and a big grin while my Mom was yelling at my Dad for giving it to me.
Cold showers were the norm as my Mom often hosed us down after playing outside before we were let in the basement to scrub off the second layer of dirt in the laundry sinks with Lava soap.

 

[DrPizza]

Abuse? I told my kid he'd be a pansy if he couldn't eat hot food. By the time he was 7 or 8, he was eating Dave's Insanity Sauce on his wings. He loves hot food.

 

[zinfamous]

the cold shower seems like abuse.

hot sauce...not so much.

 

[FM2n]

If it has to escalate to anal electrocution, then I might be a bit concerned.

On a serious note, I think it is abuse. There is an act of spanking which isn't really associated with anything else later in life, or putting the kid in time out which only robs them of their ability to be impatient which in fact teaches them something about patience.

Just like in the movie The Aviator, DiCaprio was all traumatized because his mom expected him to wash his hands at all times. In his adulthood, he went crazy and that was all he knew how to do when he had a freakout.

I wouldn't want my kid to look at a bottle of hot sauce and think of how badly I treated him/her. "Mom made me pick the brand of hot sauce that was about to be poured into my eyes. To this day, I wake up screaming TAPATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"

 

[FM2n]

Did you have to kneel with your arms held above your head?

I'm black, of course I have..

 

[FoBoT]

same as waterboarding is torture

 

[runzwithsizorz]

Abuse? I told my kid he'd be a pansy if he couldn't eat hot food. By the time he was 7 or 8, he was eating Dave's Insanity Sauce on his wings. He loves hot food.

LOL, I taught the kids, and now I'm teaching the grand kids. Here's my grand daughter abusing the sauce for breakfast

 

[NikolaeVarius]

LOL, I taught the kids, and now I'm teaching the grand kids. Here's my grand daughter abusing the sauce for breakfast.
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KeithTalent

So... SO shoppable

Hmm

*Unzips pants
*Loads up photoshop.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

My son (20 mos) likes to eat hot sauce and hot peppers (wife and I eat a lot of Tex Mex). He gives a sour face after tasting them, and then asks for more.

Not sure I would do put my kid in a cold shower like that. But I don't see it as abuse if the parent is only exposing the kid to the shower for a short period of time (under a minute). Long term exposure could be quite serious though.

 

[runzwithsizorz]

So... SO shoppable

Hmm

*Unzips pants
*Loads up photoshop.

Not shopped you pedo ASSHOLE

 

[torpid]

Also, WTH is with pulling cards?

I wondered the same thing; if my google fu is still sharp, it refers to a behavior management thing in some schools. You "pull a card" when you behave badly.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

kids crying during discipline. this is news why?

Because Dr. Phil said so.

BTW, I wonder what horrific punishment Dr. Phil's mom administered to him. Had to be something bad. No one turns into that big of a douche without something bad happening to them.

 

[BudAshes]

You are going to make your kid hate spicy food which is a glorious part of life.

 

[Udgnim]

hot sauce punishment is pretty dependent on what is being used

make a kid eat a ghost chili or give him some hot sauce extract and that would be pretty abusive to me

make a kid taste Sriracha? meh, no big deal

 

[blackdogdeek]

So... SO shoppable

Hmm

*Unzips pants
*Loads up photoshop.

wtf?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

So... SO shoppable

Hmm

*Unzips pants
*Loads up photoshop.

Wow. That's the guy's daughter... Ugh.