Is Homosexuality a fundamental freedom and universal human right

[Texashiker]

HIV epidemic? Do you live in the 90s?

I finished high school in 1986.

That seems to be a double standard

Why do you think that?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Why do you think that?

Because Lesbians are technically homosexuals. You really have to ask?

 

[z1ggy]

I finished high school in 1986.




Why do you think that?

Because Lesbians are technically homosexuals. You really have to ask?

N/m he answered.

TH you are really looking and sounding dumb. Before I just thought you were just a slightly naive southern dude, but now I know you're also pretty low on the IQ chart, too. Jeez.

 

[radtechtips]

Why do you think that?

You think 'poop pushers' should be illegal but not don't support that for gay women?

 

[soulcougher73]

Have you ever flown? Ever been on a flight with a crying baby? Did you like it?

Just because you may not like crying children on a plane does not mean we are going to ban children from flying.

Quoted for irony with original OP intent.

 

[soulcougher73]

$10 says he will tie homosexuality back to vaccinations.

Uh no.

But if vaccinated children had the highest rates of infection, the government would take some kind of action. Maybe even passing laws to force parents to vaccinate their children.

Oh wait,,,,,.

See there, it is a double standard.

Gay men have the highest rates of HIV, the government does nothing.

Raw milk and unvaccinated children have a high rate of illness, and the government passes laws.

You sir, win the internet.

 

[Texashiker]

You think 'poop pushers' should be illegal

Negative.

People should be able to live their life without government interference.

How many times do I need to repeat that?

 

[radtechtips]

Negative.

People should be able to live their life without government interference.

How many times do I need to repeat that?

Unless it goes against your beliefs. Like abortion

 

[z1ggy]

Negative.

People should be able to live their life without government interference.

How many times do I need to repeat that?

If this is the fundamental approach of conservatives, or yourself, why do you feel the need to deny marriage to gays?

And why feel the need to do something about this so called HIV epidemic? Helping that situation is government interference no?

Or is it only when it serves your conservative agenda?

 

[radtechtips]

Th, you would consider yourself a strict constructionist right?

 

[Texashiker]

Unless it goes against your beliefs. Like abortion

Right to life is a guaranteed right.

If this is the fundamental approach of conservatives, or yourself, why do you feel the need to deny marriage to gays?

I never said gays should be denied the right to marry.

You are assuming I have made such statements.

Th, you would consider yourself a strict constructionist right?

No, I am not a "strict constructionist".

If I were, I would have no problem with forced sterilization, and I would have no problem with forced relocation and detainment of US citizens. Both of which happened in the 20th century, and both upheld by the supreme court.

 

[MrPickins]

No, more like gays are cry babies.

That restaurant refuses to serve us,,,, boo hoo hoo. Lets get a lawyer and sue them, boo hoo hoo.

Just like those crybaby black people in the 60's, right?

But if two gay guys want to have their poo packed and have a 17 times greater chance of getting anal cancer, the government does not say a word.

So in your mind having your "poo packed" is the defining aspect of being a gay male?

This is an extremely childish position.

 

[MrPickins]

If I were, I would have no problem with forced sterilization, and I would have no problem with forced relocation and detainment of US citizens. Both of which happened in the 20th century, and both upheld by the supreme court.

Ahh, so because we did bad things in the past, we should continue to do bad things in the future?

 

[z1ggy]

I never said gays should be denied the right to marry.

You are assuming I have made such statements.

Okay then, I'm still lost as to your position and then what you'd like to see done about any problems with gays, if any.

If you see no issues, I don't see why you created this thread.

If you do, list them out one by one so we may address them. So far all I can really seem to comprehend is that you've stated gays are 17x more likely to get anal cancer and are more likely to get HIV. Fair enough, those seem to be facts backed up by some form of data. But what is the problem here? If you want to compare bad milk to gays whereas the milk was controlled by the government so it was assured to be healthy, I can only assume you want to control the lives of gays.

Yet you say, "government should stay out of our lives."

I'm confused.

 

[werepossum]

Just like those crybaby black people in the 60's, right?



So in your mind having your "poo packed" is the defining aspect of being a gay male?

This is an extremely childish position.

From what I understand poo packing actually encompasses several positions, but I'll defer to your greater knowledge.

 

[ElFenix]

But 25+ years we have had an HIV epidemic and the government has done nothing.

wat

 

[jhbball]

Okay then, I'm still lost as to your position and then what you'd like to see done about any problems with gays, if any.

If you see no issues, I don't see why you created this thread.

If you do, list them out one by one so we may address them. So far all I can really seem to comprehend is that you've stated gays are 17x more likely to get anal cancer and are more likely to get HIV. Fair enough, those seem to be facts backed up by some form of data. But what is the problem here? If you want to compare bad milk to gays whereas the milk was controlled by the government so it was assured to be healthy, I can only assume you want to control the lives of gays.

Yet you say, "government should stay out of our lives."

I'm confused.

Pretty much par for the course for TH threads.

 

[Texashiker]

Ahh, so because we did bad things in the past, we should continue to do bad things in the future?

The questions was, am I a "strict constructionist". The answer is no. And then I gave a couple of examples of why I am not a "strict constructionist."

The supreme court has yet to strike down forced relocation and detainment of US citizens. That law is not only from our history, but also a present danger to our civil rights.

If you see no issues, I don't see why you created this thread.

To have a discussion.

Is it possible to have a discussion while remaining neutral?

wat

20+ students develop measles, and the CDC freaks out.

Millions of people die from HIV, and the CDC sits on its ass.

 

[mikeymikec]

Standard Texashiker thread:

1 - TH says something outrageous / absurd
2 - TH gets critical responses
3 - TH says he didn't mean 99% of what he said / strongly implied
4 - TH says something else outrageous / absurd
5 - Goto step 2, begin loop

I think what's needed to get TH's actual opinion on a topic is to set up a thread with him and several chat bots designed to agree with everything he says with a bit of intelligent conversation prompting.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

The questions was, am I a "strict constructionist". The answer is no. And then I gave a couple of examples of why I am not a "strict constructionist."

The supreme court has yet to strike down forced relocation and detainment of US citizens. That law is not only from our history, but also a present danger to our civil rights.




To have a discussion.

Is it possible to have a discussion while remaining neutral?






20+ students develop measles, and the CDC freaks out.

Millions of people die from HIV, and the CDC sits on its ass.

You, neutral on this issue? BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Again, it's not a debate, it's a virtual soapbox for you to stand on and spew your homophobia.

And here's how the CDC is sitting on their ass, you fucking buffoon.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/dhap/ehap/index.html

 

[ch33zw1z]

20+ students develop measles, and the CDC freaks out.

Millions of people die from HIV, and the CDC sits on its ass.

Two very different ailments.

Measles in highly contagious without sex, deadly, and again....doesn't require unprotected sex or intravenous drug use to spread...

 

[Darwin333]

You're a conservative man, I think he's got at least 10 pages in him. We could make it into a The Price is Right kind of game where the closest bid wins so long as you don't go over.

That would really provide a lot more entertainment to these threads.

Hey, I love that idea! We can all put up a dollar and the winner takes all, then at least something good would come from these threads.

You were right, I was way off.

 

[mikeymikec]

nvm

 

[z1ggy]

The questions was, am I a "strict constructionist". The answer is no. And then I gave a couple of examples of why I am not a "strict constructionist."

The supreme court has yet to strike down forced relocation and detainment of US citizens. That law is not only from our history, but also a present danger to our civil rights.




To have a discussion.

Is it possible to have a discussion while remaining neutral?




20+ students develop measles, and the CDC freaks out.

Millions of people die from HIV, and the CDC sits on its ass.

Sure. But that's not what you have done.

I can't find the quote, nor do I feel like searching, but I'm almost positive you said the thought or sight of gay men makes you "want to barf".

Also the fact you've referred to "poo packing" in the context of gay men, shows you are so far off from 'neutral'.

 

[Texashiker]

I think what's needed to get TH's actual opinion on a topic is to set up a thread with him and several chat bots designed to agree with everything he says with a bit of intelligent conversation prompting.

Do not blame me because people jump to conclusions.

You, neutral on this issue? BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Again, it's not a debate, it's a virtual soapbox for you to stand on and spew your homophobia.

I am neutral on the issue. Gay rights and gay marriage does not affect me one way or the other.

However, facts speak for themselves.

Gay men are 17 times more likely to develop anal cancer than straight men. If that was any other form of infection, the CDC and the government would freak out.

But because the infection and cancer is directly related to a lifestyle, and a choice (to have unprotected sex), the CDC and government is hands off.

If some goat farmer was selling raw milk, and people drinking it were 17 times more likely to get sick than drinking pasteurized milk, the government would shut that farmer down.

Why does one lifestyle and choice (unprotected gay sex) get a free pass, but other lifestyles do not? I am not hurting you by drinking raw milk (which I do not do), but shouldn't I have the right to do it?

I can't find the quote, nor do I feel like searching, but I'm almost positive you said the thought or sight of gay men makes you "want to barf".

No need to search, I will make it easy for you. Seeing two gay men holding hands and/or kissing makes be want to throw up.

But that does not mean I want their rights taken away.