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Is homework for kids actually worthwhile?

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By Nancy Kalish
Parenting magazine
TODAY
updated 2 hours, 34 minutes ago

I used to be extremely pro-homework. In fact, I once wrote an article for this very magazine telling readers how to get kids to stop whining and knuckle down to work. Back then, I could afford to be smug: My second-grader was happily zooming through her ten minutes a night.

But a few years later, Allison started coming home with four hours of homework each night, and everything changed. Now there was not only whining but also begging, yelling, and crying ? sometimes from both of us. The worst part: hearing my previously enthusiastic learner repeatedly swear how much she hated school.

I'd always assumed homework was essential. But when I finally looked into the research about it, I was floored to find there's little to support homework ? especially in vast quantities. While not every child gets too much, many kids are now overloaded as early as kindergarten. I was appalled (I even cowrote a book about it, "The Case Against Homework"), so you can bet that this time around, you won't be getting any "how to be a good homework cop" tips from me.
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Instead, I'm here to call you to action. You can change things for your child ? even for the whole school. There are more and more frustrated parents and wised-up schools around the country, so why should your child keep suffering through hours of work? A less-homework revolution is brewing, and you can join it.

Taking back family time
Like me, Christine Hendricks, a mother of three in Glenrock, WY, had always believed in homework. Then her daughter, Maddie, entered elementary school. "By the fourth grade, she had so much, there was no time for after-school activities, playing, or simply enjoying our evenings together. We were always stressed, and I knew many other families were also miserable."

Hendricks decided things had to change ? and she had a unique advantage: She's the principal of Glenrock's Grant Elementary School. Together with her teachers, she looked into the research and found what I did: Homework's not what it's cracked up to be. "We decided to do an experiment and eliminate most homework," she says. The one exception: occasional studying for a test.

"This is only our second year without it, but there have been no backslides in the classroom or in test scores," says Hendricks. "Parents say their kids enjoy reading again because there's no pressure. In fact, there have been no negative effects whatsoever. And there's much less stress at our house, too." We're not all in a position to fast-track a solution as Hendricks did, but we still have power.

In Toronto, Frank Bruni decided to do something when a pediatrician told him that his 13-year-old son should exercise more. Says Bruni, "I thought to myself, 'And when would he do that?' " So Bruni organized other parents and lobbied the Toronto School District to hold public meetings, presenting the research behind homework. The result is a new policy that affects more than 300,000 kids, limiting homework to reading in elementary school, eliminating holiday homework, and stating the value of family time. Canada's education minister now wants all the country's school boards to make sure students aren't being overloaded. "It's so gratifying to know that this year, Toronto's kids are going to have a life," says Bruni. "It shows you just how much parents can do when they try."

Why it?s worth a fight
Homework is such an established part of education, it's hard to believe it's not all that beneficial, especially in large quantities. But the truth is, a recent Duke University review of numerous studies found almost no correlation between homework and long-term achievement in elementary school, and only a moderate correlation in middle school.

"More is not better," says Harris Cooper, Ph.D., a professor of psychology and neuroscience who conducted the review. In fact, according to guidelines endorsed by the National Education Association, teachers should assign no more than ten minutes per grade level per night (that's ten minutes total for a first-grader, 30 minutes for a third-grader).

Pile on more and it can backfire.

"Most kids are simply developmentally unable to sit and learn for longer," says Cooper. Remember: Many have already been glued to their desks for seven hours, especially at schools that have cut gym, recess, art, and music to cram in more instructional time. If you add on two hours of homework each night, these children are working a 45-hour week. Some argue that we need to toughen kids up for high school, college, and the workforce.

But there are other ways to teach responsibility, such as the chores that parents often have to let slide because of studying. Too much homework also means that kids miss out on active playtime, essential for learning social skills, proper brain development, and warding off childhood obesity.

All this work doesn't even make educational sense. "It's counterintuitive, but more practice or the wrong kind of practice doesn't necessarily make perfect," says Kylene Beers, president of the National Council of Teachers of English and author of "When Kids Can't Read, What Teachers Can Do." For example, children are able to memorize long lists of spelling words ? but many will misspell them the following week.

I think it's a very worthwhile question to ask; we accept the school system as it is today because it's what most people experienced growing up and, after all, "I came out fine." However, I think that the way it's currently done is not necessarily the best way. Homework is only one example of something that we do because we've always done it. If it's not helping the kids learn (or if there's no learning difference between fifteen minutes and three hours of homework) make the adjustment! Bring back some of the practical life skills classes that have been cut in the name of academics and sports. Trim the day to allow older kids to get after-school jobs and participate in the responsibilities of family life.

I think changes like that would produce more well-balanced kids who have more life skills a and are less jaded and stressed by the time they hit college.
 
It teaches you how to manage your time when you are not supervised. That is actually a life skill that comes in handy.


Now as far as the actual material.......meh.
 
When I was in school, we were one of the earlier adopters of "intensive scheduling", with 90 minute class periods. This resulted in teachers doing more homework-type work activities in class, and less actual homework. I felt this was MUCH better. Not only does it force you to actually do it - there is help readily available if you need it.
 
Too much time is wasted trying to teach children math in elementary when it should be spent in literature, English, philosophy, and geography.

Math should be learned later in middle school and high school at an accelerated pace.
 
Homework was the worst part of middle school/high school. It's really only useful for learning things that require repetition, like languages (I do 15-30 mins of Chinese hw each night during semester; really the only way to stay on top of stuff). For the most part though, it's just to keep the kids busy and out of trouble - which is exactly what us teenagers want to do.

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Too much time is wasted trying to teach children math in elementary when it should be spent in literature, English, philosophy, and geography.

Math should be learned later in middle school and high school at an accelerated pace.
I sort of agree with this. In high school they re-teach everything but basic arithmetic all over again (and I knew sophomores/juniors who were taking Algebra/Algebra 2).
 
Things must have changed since i was in school. Because I always did after school stuff (sports) and never spent that much time with HW. At most 2 hours on random nights, but that was dependent on when classes fell and how much for which class. Hell I don?t think I even had 4 hours of "homework" a night in college.

If elementary school kids are getting that much now then YES I agree its way to much.

 
Depends on the material in question.

Though I do not remember ever really doing homework, very few teachers of mine had it as an important part of the grade.
 
Originally posted by: JMapleton
Too much time is wasted trying to teach children math in elementary when it should be spent in literature, English, philosophy, and geography.

Math should be learned later in middle school and high school at an accelerated pace.

Are you serious?

Look at the top countries in education. How many of them hold off teaching math?

You look at other countries and see stuff that is HS/college level being shown in 7th/8th grade (think of advanced algebra/calc stuff).

Geography and philosophy are two things that people can learn later without much more difficulty. Math OTOH is a subject where a lot of people have a hard time with.

In my HS we had about 1/3 of the kids in Algebra 1 their sophmore/junior years and geometry the year after that. Although when one of those kids is at their cash register and can't figure out change when you give them the coins after they ring in the dollar amount, don't go bitching.
 
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: JMapleton
Too much time is wasted trying to teach children math in elementary when it should be spent in literature, English, philosophy, and geography.

Math should be learned later in middle school and high school at an accelerated pace.

Are you serious?

Look at the top countries in education. How many of them hold off teaching math?

You look at other countries and see stuff that is HS/college level being shown in 7th/8th grade (think of advanced algebra/calc stuff).

Geography and philosophy are two things that people can learn later without much more difficulty. Math OTOH is a subject where a lot of people have a hard time with.

In my HS we had about 1/3 of the kids in Algebra 1 their sophmore/junior years and geometry the year after that. Although when one of those kids is at their cash register and can't figure out change when you give them the coins after they ring in the dollar amount, don't go bitching.

I don't think he could have been serious with that statement...
 
In elementary school it's not very worthwhile. In high school it's more worthwhile if the teachers are giving homework assignments that have educational value and aren't just busy work. In math and science I think it's particularly valuable. My calc teacher in high school gave optional homework every night, and a required assignment once a week. I think that worked well. In college most of the homework for my math classes was optional. I tried to get by without doing the homework in advanced stats like I had in high school, and I got a C on the first test. :Q I started doing the homework and ended up with an A in the class. And I'm someone who never needed to put any effort into understanding math before.

So yes, I think in some cases good homework assignments help you learn.
 
I was talking with a friend of mine whose oldest kid entered kindergarten this past fall. The poor guy has a pretty significant amount of homework... It strikes me as ridiculous.
 
Get rid of the summer break and standardized testing and spend more time going through real-life material (how many kids no how to balance a checkbook when the graduate) and I would be fine with reducing homework.
 
There were some completely worthless homework that I had to do back in the days. Writing poem, remembering the periodic table, analyzing stupid shit in novels, and so much more. I don't see how doing those would help me in life.
 
Originally posted by: Deeko
When I was in school, we were one of the earlier adopters of "intensive scheduling", with 90 minute class periods. This resulted in teachers doing more homework-type work activities in class, and less actual homework. I felt this was MUCH better. Not only does it force you to actually do it - there is help readily available if you need it.

that actually sounds like a pretty good idea.

homework is very useful in reinforcing concepts and allowing you to apply things. i considering myself pretty smart, though i'm far from einstein, but....

simply telling me that taking the volume integral of the velocity*density*dV (if my memory of reynold's transport theorem serves me correctly, which it probably isn't) doesn't help me actually how to apply that volume integral to a real-world problem. people learn by asking questions from being challenged, and eliminating homework is going to eliminate challenge that would otherwise force (some) children to think and learn.

homework may be annoying, like the tensor proofs im doing right now, but it is a necessary evil, *especially* in higher education.
 
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I was talking with a friend of mine whose oldest kid entered kindergarten this past fall. The poor guy has a pretty significant amount of homework... It strikes me as ridiculous.

I agree. In kindergarten homework should consist of:

1) ride bike
2) eat something you find on the ground
3) break something
 
Originally posted by: Insomniator
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: JMapleton
Too much time is wasted trying to teach children math in elementary when it should be spent in literature, English, philosophy, and geography.

Math should be learned later in middle school and high school at an accelerated pace.

Are you serious?

Look at the top countries in education. How many of them hold off teaching math?

You look at other countries and see stuff that is HS/college level being shown in 7th/8th grade (think of advanced algebra/calc stuff).

Geography and philosophy are two things that people can learn later without much more difficulty. Math OTOH is a subject where a lot of people have a hard time with.

In my HS we had about 1/3 of the kids in Algebra 1 their sophmore/junior years and geometry the year after that. Although when one of those kids is at their cash register and can't figure out change when you give them the coins after they ring in the dollar amount, don't go bitching.

I don't think he could have been serious with that statement...

No kidding. Like philosophy is an important subject to learn in elementary school.
 
I've been saying this for years and wrote my own opinion page piece on it. The local school, of course, did nothing.

If you can't teach kids in 7 hours a day what you need to teach them, the teachers are at fault. I spend about 2 1/2 hours a day at college and then maybe 1-2 hours of homework a night, and I'm learning far more in college. Why? Better teachers, and they aren't afraid to go fast so little slow Timmy can't keep up.

Almost all of my work in high and middle school was 'busy work' - work we all knew we weren't learning anything from, it was just there to make the teacher feel better about themselves. Now, I had a few good teachers in high school, but they were rare. I got an A in my AP Psychology course, and passed the AP test easily, and so did a lot of people that took the class. Guess what though? No homework in the class was *ever* given.
 
Originally posted by: CPA
Get rid of the summer break and standardized testing and spend more time going through real-life material (how many kids no how to balance a checkbook when the graduate) and I would be fine with reducing homework.

<Standard ATOT responce>

PEOPLE SHOULD NOT USE Checks!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
It teaches you how to manage your time when you are not supervised. That is actually a life skill that comes in handy.


Now as far as the actual material.......meh.

All i learned in K-12 was that I could slack off, sleep through class, and do hardly any work and still get by in the world.

Then I went to college and got a 1.4 GPA. So yeah, system didn't work for me. After 4 years in the Army I'm back in college and getting a 3.6 GPA very little but focused effort.

 
One major issue with homework (unless it's done like Deeko's was), is that by the time you get home (anywhere from 1-7 hours later) you have lost most of what you have learned.

Studies have shown that the sooner after learning something you go and review it/do some work with it the more of it you will retain.
 
As long as it's not overloaded. I think 1 hour a night is pretty reasonable throughout elementary school, and then maybe a little bit more after that. 4 hours is ridiculous. I've found that I will absolutely not learn if I don't do homework, so I do think it's necessary.
 
Originally posted by: Auryg
I've been saying this for years and wrote my own opinion page piece on it. The local school, of course, did nothing.

If you can't teach kids in 7 hours a day what you need to teach them, the teachers are at fault. I spend about 2 1/2 hours a day at college and then maybe 1-2 hours of homework a night, and I'm learning far more in college. Why? Better teachers, and they aren't afraid to go fast so little slow Timmy can't keep up.

Almost all of my work in high and middle school was 'busy work' - work we all knew we weren't learning anything from, it was just there to make the teacher feel better about themselves. Now, I had a few good teachers in high school, but they were rare. I got an A in my AP Psychology course, and passed the AP test easily, and so did a lot of people that took the class. Guess what though? No homework in the class was *ever* given.

This is partly true, but the primary schooling years (elementary in particular) are especially important and formative, and cannot be compared to a college environment. In college, you have motivated (theoretically) students who CHOOSE to be there, and who have (again, theoretically) already "learned how to learn" so to speak.

In elementary, middle, and high schools, you're imparting knowledge that is critical in terms of being a base for further learning, and you are also imparting important general scholarship skills. Thus, the 7 hour day, in my opinion, is not excessive.

As far as homework goes, it's not my particular area of research, but I do believe there are quite a few studies supporting its use. If students aren't practicing skills and doing schoolwork at home, they simply aren't learning and retaining material as well. Educational and School Psychology are two fields that are almost completely devoted to principles of learning in an academic setting, and if homework as a whole were not beneficial, I believe these fields would've pointed it out by now.
 
Originally posted by: Kadarin
I was talking with a friend of mine whose oldest kid entered kindergarten this past fall. The poor guy has a pretty significant amount of homework... It strikes me as ridiculous.

yeap.

my daughter is in first grad. but last year she had about 10 minutes of homework and then had to read 3 books a week (which again took her 10 minutes to do).

now that she is in first grade she has same amount of work but has to read 3-6 books a week.


i remember in high school i would have 6-8 subjects a year. each one would give 45minutes to an hour of work (granted i had PE and such) but i would have at least 3-5 hours of homework a night. after having around 8 hours of school adding that much homework a night is insane. it got to the point i didn't want to go to school and i loved going to school!

i don't think having kids do busy work is good and pilling on a lot is not going to be good. kids need time to be kids. having so much work is going to burn them out and many will come to hate school.


edit: you also know its to much when kids are having back problems because they are takeing so many huge books home a day.
 
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