SpunkyJones
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My issues with putting TV's over the fire place is that its too high for comfortable viewing. I have enough issues in life without adding neck strain to the list.
My issues with putting TV's over the fire place is that its too high for comfortable viewing. I have enough issues in life without adding neck strain to the list.
I'm considering doing this when i decide to jump on the HD bandwagon. Although heat may be an issue, i think its frowned upon because of the height. I am not an expert but my guess is an ideal setup would have the TV slightly higher than eye level while in the sitting position.
Anubis
No Lifer
i agree, the only things worth watching in HD are sports and Movies which you can rent
a shitty sitcom in HD is still a shitty sitcom there really is no benefit to watching it in HD
But Sci-fi/fantasy in HD is the shit. Watching BSG/Atlantis space battles (escaping from New Caprica for example anyone?) are so enjoyable in HD. I have no use for watching Big Bang Theory in HD though and watch it at less then SD quality actually (along with the office).
HD has benefits. Sports (which I don't watch), Movies (which I have netflix and rent), and Sci-fi/Fantasy/nature tv shows (I can't even say porn is better in HD, some of that shit I would rather NOT be able to see clearly lol). Other then that I have no use for HD content because I really have no need to see every out of place hair on some actor/anchor/host/etc.
Zenmervolt
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It's also annoying.
We used to be able to pull in Canadian stations and stations from Detroit on our antenna (grew up near Toledo, Ohio). The same stations' digital signals drop out all the time, but the analog signals were normally clear enough to watch satisfactorily.
Not only that, but most digital signals are so overly compressed that there is noticeable blockiness during scenes with fast motion. It's ridiculous, but a good analog signal was typically superior to standard definition digital signals, which make up the majority of digital content. Unless all digital channels also switch to high definition, the switch to digital will mark a step backwards in quality for many people.
ZV
0roo0roo
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theres tons of sh*t worth watching in hd, most obvious are movies yes. but documentaries...esp about nature are massively improved in high res. i'm sure many of you watched planet earth recently. all the primetime shows like lost/prison break and such are better in hd. and yea scifi.
perhaps the cheap lcd just sucked by itself
Anubis
No Lifer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
theres tons of sh*t worth watching in hd, most obvious are movies yes. but documentaries...esp about nature are massively improved in high res. i'm sure many of you watched planet earth recently. all the primetime shows like lost/prison break and such are better in hd. and yea scifi.
perhaps the cheap lcd just sucked by itself
i dont consider select programming on Discovery, TLC A&E and the History Channel "tons of shit"
there is nothing on network TV worth watching in SD let alone HD
I wouldn't say it's too complicated. People just need to be explained to what the difference is, etc. If they took the time read an article on it for 5 minutes, they'd understand. It's no different than learning anything else.
That's the thing. The masses don't need to understand all the technical terms; it's still just a TV, you still plug it into an antenna or cable box, and you still change the channels like it's been done for 50 years.
However, dumb people assume that anything "new" should be complicated by nature, and close their eyes. HDTV isn't too complicated. People are too dense.
Honestly, Congress pushing back the digital dealine over and over did us a huge disservice; when there's only one choice, life gets a lot simpler!
I don't know. People are still massively confused about "the black bars" and many folks homes I visit they're stretching or zooming HD content. That's IF they are even aware if they are watching a HD channel or not.
fatpat268
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Originally posted by: KnickNut3
Originally posted by: YetioDoom
My mom uses her HDTV to watch VHS tapes of shows she records from SD cable
EXACTLY. My parents LOVE to use VHS and watch it on our HDTV with HD cable!
Not only that, half the time I come home for the weekend, and they're watching live TV through the VCR on an HD channel (so it's in SD).
Ugh! And then when I tell them they say they can't notice the difference! On their 54" TV!
This Blu-ray/VHS combo player would be perfect for your parents
Link
ROFL
SarcasticDwarf
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You are assuming that people are willing to and capable of learning. Let's face it, few people will spend a few hours learning about something but instead prefer to live their lives in ignorance and bitch when it does not work correctly.
zinfamous
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you live in Chicago area, right?
That pretty much sums up my various experiences with Chicago-area Comcast service. They tried to charge me for an internet service that they weren't providing me, b/c the cables on my building were not only too old, but also leaking signal everywhere. 3 or so techs came out, knew that their order was to replace the actual main cables for the building, but they never did. There were other adventures with Comcast
Now I'm in the Bay area, and back with Comcast (no choice). We'll see......
zinfamous
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Whoa Whoa Whoa! lets be clear here: this ONLY works if your TV has a QAM tuner, or you buy a separate QAM tuner
ATSC = HD Over the air
QAM = HD over cable
most current HDTVs come with both tuners. mine, which is just over 2 years old, only has an ATSC tuner. Also, local cable services will block out, or simply mute certain free HD stations broadcast over cable. So you can get some decent HD via QAM and basic cable subscriptions, but you're unlikely to get ESPN.
see, even we're capable of spreading confusion
zinfamous
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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Note sure what the confusion is. We have Dish Network, and you don't have to do anything different.
Let's take that for instance.
I know more than a few people who get an HDTV and don't upgrade to HD Service from their satellite provider, or those who have Time Warner and don't request HD boxes, and TV looks even worse and they get negative impressions.
OOOOooooohhhhh...O get you now. Yeah, I think the cable TV companies need to do a better job of educating people. Sat. providers do this stuff automatically though. HD on cable sucks anyway
well, to be fair:
OTA HD > Sat HD > cable HD
zinfamous
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yep, it's always at a piss-poor height for the "true" HD experience. not to mention how you want to arrange your speakers or components if it ever comes to that. It's also a waste of a fireplace and TV all in one swoop.
Of course, this kind of thing matters to the Enthusiast. For those that live in a city, a small apartment or condo, perhaps, where space is premium, then it's the only option. Further, not everyone really freaking cares about HD, as evidenced here, which is fine.
Because they don't want to read to learn about it. Calculus is too complicated for the masses to understand unless they take a class and learn about it.
Hell, these noobs can go to Best Buy and let some $8 an hour teenage punk explain what HD is and how to get it for 5-10 minutes and be educated enough to understand it. If they'd simply take the time to learn it they'd be fine...it's hardly complicated. Hell my dad and my mom both learned it after I helped them setup their plasma, and they're both the most untechnologically saavy people ever. (My dad was still using an A/V switch for the DVD player and VCR, despite having 4 inputs on the back of the TV) Complicated? No. Just takes a few minutes to learn.
Doesn't mean it's too complicated. That's not the same thing as lazyness and ignorance. Too complicated is graduate level physics class for a 50 year old whose never taken a physics class or gone to college. It's not the same as learning what HD TV is.
If people are like my parents, then probably nothing too complicated that can't be taught. Well, assuming they want to learn. If your like my dad, then it will ALWAYS be too complicated because, he never wants to take the time to learn.
Yes I think it is. Here's an example that really has nothing to do with HD, but shows you how most people just don't know a thing about TV's, even older one's. I do desktop support for a good sized company. In one of our conference rooms we have a big 37" CRT tv with a video conferencing system. It's just a regular TV with the video conferencing hooked up to it, nothing special. The other day I received a ticket from a lady stating that she had a video conference in that room earlier in the day, but was unable to do it because "the TV remote didn't work, so I was unable to turn on the TV." She said this caused her to miss the conference, and she had to reschedule and she wanted it fixed immediately. So I went down and looked at it, and the remote was indeed broken, but the power button on the frigging TV worked just fine. This lady said she stood in front of the TV pressing the remote buttons for 10 minutes but could never get it to work so she gave up. She couldn't figure out that you could just press the power button on the damn TV. Now this lady is smart in other areas, has a good job, etc, so it's not like she's some inbred idiot. Do you really think she's going to be able to figure out how to hookup an HDTV? I know it's just one example, but I see people like this all day at work. Normal people, smart in their jobs, but just baffled by computers, TV's, video equipment, projectors, etc.
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