Is Google slowly turning to crap ?

Vernor

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I swear half the hits I get these days are these fake "search spam" pages.


 

edro

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They have got to be working on fixing that... It is by far, the most annoying thing on the internet. Stupid fvcking Nester... I think they started it all.

Edit: Apparently Nester.com has been sold, or maybe they just changed their name... who knows. Nester used to be one of those people who bought 21453454 domain names and took you to their crappy search site instead. Note, I am not takling about the NES emulater Nester.
 

Grey

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Yea I have also noticed that. Very annoying clicking on the perfect link and find its a dynamically made site with more links. Why the hell do I want to go through a search engine to find another search engine.
 

ClueLis

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Yup. They changed the search algorithm recently to counter "google bombing" and now it all sucks.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: Vernor
I swear half the hits I get these days are these fake "search spam" pages.

try visvisimo
its uses 3 or 4 different search engines and categorizes the results. I never seen any fake results on it
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Google SUCKS beyond belief right now. Just ask RossMAN or any other webmaster. They suckage is indescribable.
 

zimu

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to me it still does the job, although i totally know what you're talking about
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Yahoo crawls at 2x the rate of Google, and that includes Google's AdSense spider. In the last 36 hours, about 500 pages for the Yahoo spider and 250 for Google.
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
It's not google's fault, it's the fact that there's 10x more crap out there monthly for google to crawl through.
Yeah, it is. It used to be a great search engine and sh!tty spam pages are nothing new to the internet. They still managed to serve up relevent content. They decided to change their algorithm and now most searches turn up total crap for results. Oh well, Alta Vista used to be great and then they sucked, and now they've gotten a lot better and I'm using them almost exclusively again. If Yahoo had a pure search page I'd probably use them because they also are bringing up good results since they booted Google a couple of weeks ago and went to their new search engine.

 

RaynorWolfcastle

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I think the main problem is that Google is too popular for its own good; spammers now design and link their pages explicitly to exploit Google's weaknesses. I'm currently looking for a good alternative for it, maybe I'll start using Astalavista again.
 

Ranger X

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Yup .. it's not Google's fault. I'm sick and tired of irrelevent searches showing up too.
 

Amorphus

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I dunno... I can't find any fault with google yet. maybe my searches are special.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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From my own experiments, Yahoo and MSN are the most accurate of the major search engines right now.
 

trmiv

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Can someone give me an example of a search that brings up all these poor results? I don't really see that, I usually get what I'm looking for.
 

sygyzy

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I don't see how the change to stop google bombing resulted in poorer (?) searches. The problem is all those dynamically created pages. Run a search for a product and you will see what we mean. You try to find an item and you will get these pages that have your search topic as a title and then some links to other sites that mention the item. Basically a search engine connecting to other search engines.

DeathByAnts - What would RossMan or any other webmaster know about google sucking? I don't folllow.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
I don't see how the change to stop google bombing resulted in poorer (?) searches. The problem is all those dynamically created pages. Run a search for a product and you will see what we mean. You try to find an item and you will get these pages that have your search topic as a title and then some links to other sites that mention the item. Basically a search engine connecting to other search engines.

DeathByAnts - What would RossMan or any other webmaster know about google sucking? I don't folllow.


As a webmaster of a site, you are constantly looking at what SE's (Search Engines) are doing. At any given time, many people will be able to tell you how many pages of their site are showing up on each major search engine, and what position they are showing at (if I run a site that sells widgets, then I want a search of "widgets" to list my site first). There are numerous optimization strategies to try and get (and keep) your site at the top of the results. Every time that a SE changes its algorythm, your ranking is effected. In the case of the recent Google changes, many sites have been radically affected (such as going from 2nd position to 114th). As a webmaster, you try to always stay in tune with how the SE field is flowing.
 

EmperorOfIceCream

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Originally posted by: DeathByAnts
Originally posted by: sygyzy
I don't see how the change to stop google bombing resulted in poorer (?) searches. The problem is all those dynamically created pages. Run a search for a product and you will see what we mean. You try to find an item and you will get these pages that have your search topic as a title and then some links to other sites that mention the item. Basically a search engine connecting to other search engines.

DeathByAnts - What would RossMan or any other webmaster know about google sucking? I don't folllow.


As a webmaster of a site, you are constantly looking at what SE's (Search Engines) are doing. At any given time, many people will be able to tell you how many pages of their site are showing up on each major search engine, and what position they are showing at (if I run a site that sells widgets, then I want a search of "widgets" to list my site first). There are numerous optimization strategies to try and get (and keep) your site at the top of the results. Every time that a SE changes its algorythm, your ranking is effected. In the case of the recent Google changes, many sites have been radically affected (such as going from 2nd position to 114th). As a webmaster, you try to always stay in tune with how the SE field is flowing.
shhhh....don't give away too much.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: TheEmperorOfIceCream
Originally posted by: DeathByAnts
Originally posted by: sygyzy
I don't see how the change to stop google bombing resulted in poorer (?) searches. The problem is all those dynamically created pages. Run a search for a product and you will see what we mean. You try to find an item and you will get these pages that have your search topic as a title and then some links to other sites that mention the item. Basically a search engine connecting to other search engines.

DeathByAnts - What would RossMan or any other webmaster know about google sucking? I don't folllow.


As a webmaster of a site, you are constantly looking at what SE's (Search Engines) are doing. At any given time, many people will be able to tell you how many pages of their site are showing up on each major search engine, and what position they are showing at (if I run a site that sells widgets, then I want a search of "widgets" to list my site first). There are numerous optimization strategies to try and get (and keep) your site at the top of the results. Every time that a SE changes its algorythm, your ranking is effected. In the case of the recent Google changes, many sites have been radically affected (such as going from 2nd position to 114th). As a webmaster, you try to always stay in tune with how the SE field is flowing.
shhhh....don't give away too much.

Crap, RossMAN and his SuperThugs are going to come beat my up tonight, aren't they?!