Mean MrMustard
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Kauai (Hawaii) . . . rains EVERY day.
However, it is not proof that we had a WORLD-WIDE flood in Noah's day . . .
BTW, "Babylon the Great" - "has a Kingdom OVER the kings of the earth" - as described in Revelation would be most likely be "Organized Religion". It's interesting that the Bible says God views it as a Whore) - if so, we can expect the "kings" to attack and destroy religion(pretty soon). :Q
"Oh and God, about our enemies... ignore their heathen prayers and help us blow those little bastards straight to hell. Amen." -We Were Soldiers
Aren't they "supposed" to be the "same"?
More-or-less? The differences would be between the unitarian Muslims and the trinitarian Christians . . . I guess the Muslin definition of Allah is closer to the Jew's Yahweh . . .
If they are the same, then why are the Palestinians and the Jews fighting over a couple hundred sq. ft. of land where some temple was previously erected?
Religion....
Heck the Palestines and the Jews are "cousins". . . . they both claim Abraham as their "father". (If you read the Bible, it said the two lines would be enemies).Originally posted by: conjur
If they are the same, then why are the Palestinians and the Jews fighting over a couple hundred sq. ft. of land where some temple was previously erected?
Religion....
What do you think of the political system attacking and destroying World Organized Religion as Revelation seems to say?
I don't really see that happening. We're not attacking Islam. And Bush is trying to bring religion more into the scene.
I didn't say we were.
That's what makes it interesting . . . what could change to make the nations attack all religion . . . :Q
And the "Babylon the Great" of Revelation is a Prostitute - who else but "organized religion" is in "bed" with politics?
ANYWAY, enough of my "side trip" . . .
. . . does anyone seriously think God is taking sides in this War?
(I don't)
First of all guys it creates a feeling of displeasure when I see people say "Yeah, we worship God and they worship Allah"
Allah is GOD in Arabic.
Much like Chico is boy in Spanish
Much like apfel is apple in German
Much like Dios is God in Spanish
If I am going to speak Arabic I will use Allah. If I'm going to speak English I will use God
"Iraq was never as prosperous as America, nor as strong, at least Hitler built a stable economy from ruins without VAST oil reserves, Saddam has done NOTHING for his people. Look you can disagree with my observations, but you can't argue with God, why else are we the sole superpower? Why does the worlds economy revolve around american markets? Why do foreigners keep using our internet? "
---Double edged sword my friend. He modernized Iraq and is the Andrew Jackson of the Mid-East (now that I think of it that is pretty much a perfect example). He brought mass democracy (to every position save for his obviously) within the sense you elected senators and representatives (nothing above those though). What he did is make Hospitals prevalent around Iraq and FREE. That is huge and obviously the Hosptials were paid for with oil. He also gave education for the masses - before then you were lucky to have a highschool and college for was the "Aristocracy". Because of him the literacy rate was 99% and people were getting a higher education.
So its a double edged sword - did good things, did bad things. But to say everything he did over his rule (which is almost over thank God) did nothing for Iraq would be a lie.
Allah is GOD in Arabic.
Much like Chico is boy in Spanish
Much like apfel is apple in German
Much like Dios is God in Spanish
If I am going to speak Arabic I will use Allah. If I'm going to speak English I will use God
"Iraq was never as prosperous as America, nor as strong, at least Hitler built a stable economy from ruins without VAST oil reserves, Saddam has done NOTHING for his people. Look you can disagree with my observations, but you can't argue with God, why else are we the sole superpower? Why does the worlds economy revolve around american markets? Why do foreigners keep using our internet? "
---Double edged sword my friend. He modernized Iraq and is the Andrew Jackson of the Mid-East (now that I think of it that is pretty much a perfect example). He brought mass democracy (to every position save for his obviously) within the sense you elected senators and representatives (nothing above those though). What he did is make Hospitals prevalent around Iraq and FREE. That is huge and obviously the Hosptials were paid for with oil. He also gave education for the masses - before then you were lucky to have a highschool and college for was the "Aristocracy". Because of him the literacy rate was 99% and people were getting a higher education.
So its a double edged sword - did good things, did bad things. But to say everything he did over his rule (which is almost over thank God) did nothing for Iraq would be a lie.
Actually, the Muslim Allah and the Christian God and the Jewish Yahweh are pretty different . . . as presented in the Bible and in the Koran.
Actually, Yahweh is the only PERSONAL name (of the 3) . . . both Allah and God (or Lord) are TITLES (like the Hebrew Elohim or Adonay as substituted for the personal name "YHWH").
Don't know the answer to that one. But, one could say there is a general undertow of resentment to the fact that religion is being brought more into politics ("GOD" used in various government phrases, pledges, etc.; Creationism now being taught alongside Evolution in schools
Missed it.Originally posted by: conjur
Don't know the answer to that one. But, one could say there is a general undertow of resentment to the fact that religion is being brought more into politics ("GOD" used in various government phrases, pledges, etc.; Creationism now being taught alongside Evolution in schools- did you catch the Penn and Teller episode of Bullsh!t on that one!)
However, Revelation shows the "waters" (consistantly symbolizing the 'sea of humanity' in the Bible) the Whore sits on, get "dried up" first. Let me quote for you (Revelations 17:15-18), "the waters that you saw where the harlot is sitting, mean people and crowds and nations and tongues . . . . and the 10 horns and the wild beast will hate the harlot . . . and will completely burn her with fire . . . For God put it into their hearts to carry out His thought . . . "
Governments are always referred to as wild beasts in the Bible . . . kinda makes "sense", now. :Q
One night I dreamed I was walking
Along the beach with the Lord.
Many scenes from my life flashed across the sky.
In each scene I noticed footprints in the sand.
Sometimes there were two sets of footprints.
Other times there were one set of footprints.
This bothered me because I noticed that
During the low periods of my life when I was
Suffering from anguish, sorrow, or defeat,
I could see only one set of footprints,
So I said to the Lord, "You promised me,
Lord, that if I followed You,
You would walk with me always.
But I noticed that during the most trying periods
Of my life there have only been
One set of prints in the sand.
Why, When I have needed You most,
You have not been there for me?"
The Lord replied,
"The times when you have seen only one set of footprints
Is when I carried you."
God is carrying all of us right now.
Along the beach with the Lord.
Many scenes from my life flashed across the sky.
In each scene I noticed footprints in the sand.
Sometimes there were two sets of footprints.
Other times there were one set of footprints.
This bothered me because I noticed that
During the low periods of my life when I was
Suffering from anguish, sorrow, or defeat,
I could see only one set of footprints,
So I said to the Lord, "You promised me,
Lord, that if I followed You,
You would walk with me always.
But I noticed that during the most trying periods
Of my life there have only been
One set of prints in the sand.
Why, When I have needed You most,
You have not been there for me?"
The Lord replied,
"The times when you have seen only one set of footprints
Is when I carried you."
God is carrying all of us right now.
Who is "all" of "us"?Originally posted by: arcitech2
One night I dreamed I was walking
Along the beach with the Lord.
Many scenes from my life flashed across the sky.
In each scene I noticed footprints in the sand.
Sometimes there were two sets of footprints.
Other times there were one set of footprints.
This bothered me because I noticed that
During the low periods of my life when I was
Suffering from anguish, sorrow, or defeat,
I could see only one set of footprints,
So I said to the Lord, "You promised me,
Lord, that if I followed You,
You would walk with me always.
But I noticed that during the most trying periods
Of my life there have only been
One set of prints in the sand.
Why, When I have needed You most,
You have not been there for me?"
The Lord replied,
"The times when you have seen only one set of footprints
Is when I carried you."
God is carrying all of us right now.
And is he carrying us if we deliberately break his laws on the sanctity of human life?
dahunan
Lifer
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Originally posted by: apoppin
Who is "all" of "us"?Originally posted by: arcitech2
One night I dreamed I was walking
Along the beach with the Lord.
Many scenes from my life flashed across the sky.
In each scene I noticed footprints in the sand.
Sometimes there were two sets of footprints.
Other times there were one set of footprints.
This bothered me because I noticed that
During the low periods of my life when I was
Suffering from anguish, sorrow, or defeat,
I could see only one set of footprints,
So I said to the Lord, "You promised me,
Lord, that if I followed You,
You would walk with me always.
But I noticed that during the most trying periods
Of my life there have only been
One set of prints in the sand.
Why, When I have needed You most,
You have not been there for me?"
The Lord replied,
"The times when you have seen only one set of footprints
Is when I carried you."
God is carrying all of us right now.
And is he carrying us if we deliberately break his laws on the sanctity of human life?
Ah, but is he carrying us when we kill evil ones to save 10 fold the amount of innocent peoples?
"Us"? The entire planet, the human race, good people, religious people, christians, born-again christians . . . Is he carrying the athiests? The Iraqis?, Saddam?
Please be just a little more specific so I can decide if I agree with you.
(my bed time . . . I guess I gotta wait to find out . . . I logged back in after I saw something pretty disturbing on PBS' Charlie Rose and "had" to post in my old thread . . . 'nite all)
Please be just a little more specific so I can decide if I agree with you.
(my bed time . . . I guess I gotta wait to find out . . . I logged back in after I saw something pretty disturbing on PBS' Charlie Rose and "had" to post in my old thread . . . 'nite all)
Originally posted by: apoppin
"Us"? The entire planet, the human race, good people, religious people, christians, born-again christians . . . Is he carrying the athiests? The Iraqis?, Saddam?
Please be just a little more specific so I can decide if I agree with you.
(my bed time . . . I guess I gotta wait to find out . . . I logged back in after I saw something pretty disturbing on PBS' Charlie Rose and "had" to post in my old thread . . . 'nite all)
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