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Pocatello

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I think if we use up all our fossil fuel now, we won't have to worry so much about green house effect in the future. Go out there and buy yourself an SUV. It's like ripping off a bandage really fast, you won't feel a thing. Our grandchildren will never have to worry about oil crisis if there is no oil to fight over. They will have to come up with something better than oil for energy and plastic. The cities will be cleaned of smog. I think we should go out and drill the Alaskan reserve now so our children's children won't ever have to face the hard decision of drilling there.
 

Zebo

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<< I think if we use up all our fossil fuel now, we won't have to worry so much about green house effect in the future. Go out there and buy yourself an SUV. It's like ripping off a bandage really fast, you won't feel a thing. Our grandchildren will never have to worry about oil crisis if there is no oil to fight over. They will have to come up with something better than oil for energy and plastic. The cities will be cleaned of smog. I think we should go out and drill the Alaskan reserve now so our children's children won't ever have to face the hard decision of drilling there. >>



Problem is Saudi Arabia alone can supply the world for 500 years at current comsumption rates.
 

Pocatello

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Please don't take my babbling too seriously since I'm not an "expert" ;). As about the global warming, the earth is always changing, get use to it. Perhaps we're the cause of it, but we're part of the earth too, so it's pretty normal to me. Some species will benefit, some will die off. Someday, we won't even be here, that's the way it is.
 

Rakkis

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I'm no "tree-hugger", but seriously.... I did not know the mental-age bracket at AT was SOOO low.
Let's ASSUME that our contribution to the current temperature shift is minimal and that it's "all due to the earth's natural cycles".

Use it all up now so that our children won't have to deal with the decision of what to do when it's their time? What kind of logic is this?

 

tsunek

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actually current estimates for economically feasable oil reserve is about 55 years. I know we all heard the 50 year estimate 20 years ago. This number has grown due to the shift to more natural gas fuel sources. natural gas reserves stand at about 60-75 years at current consumption rates per capita. both statistics take into account population growth projections(which swing between there being 8 and 16billion people by 2100)
 
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<< Global warming is the least of our worries. Did you know that the continents are moving as fast as 3 inches per year! At that rate, when the continents colide in like a million years, we'll have a new range of mountains between america and africa! >>




oh god! there's no time!! WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING!!! FAST!
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Quick! Everyone grab a stick and head for the beach, we can lay them down between the continents to keep them from completely squooshing together! :Q
 

LaBang

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wow, people in general are very ingorant about climate change. I'm in the environmental field so I know a lot more than most people. People need to know that there is a about a 90% consensus today that the earth is starting to undergo human induced climate change and that it will have a great effect upon the natural and the manmade world.
 

Nefrodite

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There is absolutely no scientific proof that global warming even exists except as a natural cycle.




and it really sucks if your wrong. i'm not all that attached to pollution anyways.
 

tsunek

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well too bad he is already wrong because more than 90% of the scientific community believes that human influenced global warming is occuring. the majority of the remaining 10% believe that global warming is occuring but the cause is unclear.
Many science journals such as the 2 major ones Science and nature came out with reports stating that the debate whether global warming is occuring due to human influenced pretty much determined
 

LaBang

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<< well too bad he is already wrong because more than 90% of the scientific community believes that human influenced global warming is occuring. the majority of the remaining 10% believe that global warming is occuring but the cause is unclear.
Many science journals such as the 2 major ones Science and nature came out with reports stating that the debate whether global warming is occuring due to human influenced pretty much determined
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This man/woman is right and so are the thousands of scientists. The National Academy of Sciences is comming out with are report summarizing their consensus this summer.

People are ignorant so I think that it is the corporations practices that must be changed. Save the Earth!
 

HappyPuppy

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How is it that some of you can be so smug as to assume that you, or humans, can have any lasting effect on the earth's environment. The earth is a living, evolving organism. We puny humans can neither destroy nor restore anything except in small, controlled environments, like laboratories.

The earth will take care of itself. If it decides to evolve into a global ice age it will do it no matter how much you protest. If mother earth decides to inflict a 100 year global drought on us then there is no amount of whining or crying that is going to change it.

I agree that we have some control over the amount of smog and polution in the major cities of the world, but we don't have total control. We can't tell the winds which way to blow, we can't produce or get rid of inversion layers and we can't control the weather, earthquakes or volcanic eruptions.

Get a life, buy a Ford Excursion and enjoy yourselves.
 

LaBang

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Reply to HappyPuppy and the others:

You are right that the earth experiences natural climate change that can happen very drastically. One day the earth will be very different than it is today.

However, we are currently producing enough pollution to have a great effect on the natural systems. Humans are changing the environment and it is humans that will suffer from it. (animals don't matter to us much). Scientists say that what is happening is NOT a natural cycle. 10 years ago they weren't so sure but today they have made up their mind. Now it is time for you all to change your minds.

You think humans don't have a large effect on the environment? There are thousands of species going extinct because of human reasons. The evidence is irrefuitable.

Don't you worry that our quality of life might go down? Do you want your kids to develope asthma or cancer do to air pollution? How about being poisoned from the water? Or cancer from ozone holes? These are just some of the bad things that can happen if we don't pay attention to the impact we have on the environment. It is not that we shouldn't do something. It is that we must find a safer way for it to be done.
 

Moonbeam

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Global warming can't be real because it would make me feel bad. It would mean that I'm part of the problem. You don't seriously think I have the emotional maturity to face that do you? And besides Mr Rush, make me feel good, Limbaugh hasn't said that Global Warming is real so it can't be real.
 

LaBang

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<< Limbaugh hasn't said that Global Warming is real so it can't be real. >>




well, you do have a point there. I guess i'm wrong. Sorry.;)