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Is Fox News shilling for the "top tier" candidates?

HomerJS

HomerJS

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I thought in their "fair and Balanced" montra, Fox News was supposed to host the debates as a neutral unbaised news organization?

People can agree or disagree with Ron Paul but twice I caught Fox News dissing him.

First, when the early text poll came in Carl Camron said the only reason Ron Paul was wining was his organization was behind all the text messages.

Second Sean Hannity while Paul was still winning the poll said "no way Ron Paul won the debate."

As much as people bitched about the way MSNBC ran their debate the hosts did not interjet their own personal opinion as to who won or put down any candidate.

Looks like the staff got Roger Ailes's memo push Romney, McCain and Gulliani. Notice how the top 3 were interviewed first?
 
Do you really think Ron Paul has even the slightest chance of winning the nomination?

How does he do in real phone polls? Not the online or text polls where people can cheat their way to victory.

I can?t wait till the next debate so we can hear his supporters whine even more when he is not included. I believe the next debate is using the ?1% rule? or whatever they call it where a candidate has to do well in polls to be included.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Do you really think Ron Paul has even the slightest chance of winning the nomination?

How does he do in real phone polls? Not the online or text polls where people can cheat their way to victory.

I can?t wait till the next debate so we can hear his supporters whine even more when he is not included. I believe the next debate is using the ?1% rule? or whatever they call it where a candidate has to do well in polls to be included.
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All that is probably true but should the debate hosts push these opnions?

 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Do you really think Ron Paul has even the slightest chance of winning the nomination?

How does he do in real phone polls? Not the online or text polls where people can cheat their way to victory.

I can?t wait till the next debate so we can hear his supporters whine even more when he is not included. I believe the next debate is using the ?1% rule? or whatever they call it where a candidate has to do well in polls to be included.
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Well he's the only real Republican in the race.

Romney is a complete fraud.

McCain is a tool who will do anything to be elected.

Guiiani is another crony monger with a lisp

Who you got PJ?

 
Originally posted by: HomerJS
I thought in their "fair and Balanced" montra, Fox News was supposed to host the debates as a neutral unbaised news organization?

People can agree or disagree with Ron Paul but twice I caught Fox News dissing him.

First, when the early text poll came in Carl Camron said the only reason Ron Paul was wining was his organization was behind all the text messages.

Second Sean Hannity while Paul was still winning the poll said "no way Ron Paul won the debate."

As much as people bitched about the way MSNBC ran their debate the hosts did not interjet their own personal opinion as to who won or put down any candidate.

Looks like the staff got Roger Ailes's memo push Romney, McCain and Gulliani. Notice how the top 3 were interviewed first?
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I watched most of the debate tonight (I have the re-run on right now) and I thought Paul got his ass kicked. Saying our previous actions in Iraq were to blame for 9/11? Come on.

Guiliani held his own. Huckabee of all people made some good points. I was surprised. McCain jusst looked old and tired.

None of them blow my skirt up but there is no way that Ron Paul won that debate.

Edit: LOL at Tancredo for invoking Jack Bauer to describe how he would extract infomration from terrorists. :laugh:
 
Top Tier.... based on this debate I don't like McCain at all, and Romney is just another George W. Out of the "top tier" the only person I ever want to consider voting for is Gulliani.

Newt and Fred better get in this.
 
Guiliani seems like a total p****. He's debating on emotions rather than facts. Fact is, many have died with the sanctions and bombings brought forth by the US government.
 
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

I watched most of the debate tonight (I have the re-run on right now) and I thought Paul got his ass kicked. Saying our previous actions in Iraq were to blame for 9/11? Come on.

Guiliani held his own. Huckabee of all people made some good points. I was surprised. McCain jusst looked old and tired.

None of them blow my skirt up but there is no way that Ron Paul won that debate.
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The interviewer asked "are you suggesting that we invited the 9/11 attacks?", Paul replied with "I'm am suggesting that we listen to the people that attacked us and the reason they did it."

Rudy Giuliani said that he has never heard that we invited the attack because of our attack of Iraq. However, Bin Laden's declaration of war says exactly that.

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Edit: Here is video of the exchange I encourage everybody to watch it in its entirety instead of just catching the Giuliani "smackdown" that is going to be replayed over and over as a sound byte.
 
Originally posted by: dyn2nvu
Guiliani seems like a total p****. He's debating on emotions rather than facts. Fact is, many have died with the sanctions and bombings brought forth by the US government.
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But they are brown people 4000 miles away. Who cares about them?
 
Ron Paul is correct to a very large extent. The main reason why we are hated is because of our foreign policy of intervention in the Middle East and strong support of Israel. I do, however, think a small portion is due to our culture, but not enough to be the main reason like Rudi and others think.
 
Originally posted by: HomerJS
I thought in their "fair and Balanced" montra, Fox News was supposed to host the debates as a neutral unbaised news organization?

People can agree or disagree with Ron Paul but twice I caught Fox News dissing him.

First, when the early text poll came in Carl Camron said the only reason Ron Paul was wining was his organization was behind all the text messages.

Second Sean Hannity while Paul was still winning the poll said "no way Ron Paul won the debate."

As much as people bitched about the way MSNBC ran their debate the hosts did not interjet their own personal opinion as to who won or put down any candidate.

Looks like the staff got Roger Ailes's memo push Romney, McCain and Gulliani. Notice how the top 3 were interviewed first?
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Not at all.

While I like some of Ron Paul's stand he didn't win the debate. He does also have more vigilant supporters behind him than the other candidates and its not hard to setup a text messaging group just for such an event. Hell there are groups who specialize in hitting newsgroups, message boards, and the like, just to sway conversation.


 
Originally posted by: Mill
Ron Paul is correct to a very large extent. The main reason why we are hated is because of our foreign policy of intervention in the Middle East and strong support of Israel. I do, however, think a small portion is due to our culture, but not enough to be the main reason like Rudi and others think.
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No he's not. These people need a enemy they can never defeat, one that is large and is well known. America fits the bill. Hell our money is everywhere but you won't see these people give it up. They need to redirect their people's hatred of their own governments to somewhere else, which has been the one common trait of dictatorships throughout time.

Whats next? The American Indians caused us to kill them because they knew we we're coming?

Ron Paul is a crackpot with some good ideas, too bad his bad ones overshadow them completely. He is exactly what is wrong with the Libertarians, he should go to them so he'd fit in. He isn't a Republican by any stretch.
 
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Mill
Ron Paul is correct to a very large extent. The main reason why we are hated is because of our foreign policy of intervention in the Middle East and strong support of Israel. I do, however, think a small portion is due to our culture, but not enough to be the main reason like Rudi and others think.
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No he's not. These people need a enemy they can never defeat, one that is large and is well known. America fits the bill. Hell our money is everywhere but you won't see these people give it up. They need to redirect their people's hatred of their own governments to somewhere else, which has been the one common trait of dictatorships throughout time.
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You're absolutely right about this. Which is why a confrontationist policy allows those governments to tighten their grip on their people.
 
Yes it was very clearly anti-Ron Paul. hannity's expression when told Paul was winning the poll was memorable.

When interviewing each of the other candidates, they stroked 'em all except for Ron, whom hannity argued with and as usual, wouldn't let him answer uninterrupted.

rudy mcromney was the flavor of the day for those dumb enough to believe they hate us for our freedumbs.
 
Originally posted by: HomerJS

First, when the early text poll came in Carl Camron said the only reason Ron Paul was wining was his organization was behind all the text messages.

Second Sean Hannity while Paul was still winning the poll said "no way Ron Paul won the debate."
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First, isnt that the truth though that the Ron Paul organized internet base is behind the results of that poll?

Second, Sean Hannity is an opinion journalist. Everyone knows that, and that was his opinion.

I knew somebody would come on here and slam Fox News for the debate.

The fact is, Fox News did 100000 times better than MSNBC did. They didnt cut the candidates off so rudely like Chris Matthews did in the last debate. Much better content in the questions this time around.

Now...insert obligatory FAUX Noise comment here :
 
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: BurningDog
Here is video of the exchange I encourage everybody to watch it in its entirety instead of just catching the Giuliani "smackdown" that is going to be replayed over and over as a sound byte.
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Wow...Rudy is more of an idiot than I thought.

L
O
L

at the audience clapping.
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oh yeah, wow americans can be dumb

here comes Ron Paul, comon sense just oozing out of him, explaining his views on the why

then comes that idiot Gulliani, completely ignoring what Ron Paul said when he was asked the question of why we were attacked and just uses the question asked as an attack

... and then the crowd cheers.. how dumb are americans?
 
Believe I have said Ron Paul will be censored and dismissed by the MSM. While it may seem odd Fox is doing it, they are MSM so it really shouldnt.

 
Major conceptual breakthrough, which goes right over the heads of the usual rightwing fanbois-

The interviewer asked "are you suggesting that we invited the 9/11 attacks?", Paul replied with "I'm am suggesting that we listen to the people that attacked us and the reason they did it."
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Ron Paul obviously thinks too clearly to be elected as a mouthpiece for the usual Repub power circles...
 
Ron Paul is a refreshing change from the usual soundbyte-spouting idiot politicians. He's a thinking man's politician, even if I don't always agree with his points.

Fox did a major hatchet job on Paul, and pretty much pushed a couple of candidates. They just prove that they are not a legitimate news organization, but rather an editorial station that covers some news.
 
Originally posted by: Mill
Ron Paul is correct to a very large extent. The main reason why we are hated is because of our foreign policy of intervention in the Middle East and strong support of Israel. I do, however, think a small portion is due to our culture, but not enough to be the main reason like Rudi and others think.
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We are not an Islamic state with Islamic law. We will be attacked until we convert as a whole. Just ask the separatists in our country hiding out in Islamberg and other camps what they intend to see America as and they will tell you that they are Islamic Supremacists who believe only in the rule of Allah.

If you believe it's about foreign policy, is what why France is threatened over who it elects as its leader? France has been a staunch opponent of ours, so it appears you can bow down and subjugate yourself all you like - it still will not be enough.
 
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