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Is everybody else getting much more email spam lately???
- Thread starter nippyjun
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911paramedic
Diamond Member
Can you imagine the amount of bandwidth of the WWW that is sucked up by useless spam?
Stop with these stupid internet related lawsuits and get on with banning spam already...
Jeeeesssssshhhhhh!!!
Stop with these stupid internet related lawsuits and get on with banning spam already...
Jeeeesssssshhhhhh!!!
911paramedic
Diamond Member
I unsubscribe to as much as possible even though I never subscribed to most of the junk.
LMAO, just "click here" to be removed from this list. That is just their way to confirm a good email address. :Q
LMAO, just "click here" to be removed from this list. That is just their way to confirm a good email address. :Q
ChinamanatNCSU
Golden Member
<< I unsubscribe to as much as possible even though I never subscribed to most of the junk.
LMAO, just "click here" to be removed from this list. That is just their way to confirm a good email address. :Q >>
THat's exactly what I was thinking. I mean, if you click unsubscribe, don't they then know its a valid email address? And yeah I ahve been getting tons more spam, but its just a matter of a few more clicks of the delete button. When I got back from spring break, 64/66 emails were spam...
kranky
Elite Member
<< I unsubscribe to as much as possible even though I never subscribed to most of the junk.
LMAO, just "click here" to be removed from this list. That is just their way to confirm a good email address. :Q >>
Not just that, you end up on lists of "confirmed valid email addresses of people who open and read spam".
<< What's annoying the crap out of me is that I'm getting multiple copies of many of them, arriving a couple minutes apart. >>
Heh, I think I must have broken some sort of record for getting multiple copies of the same message. I check my e-mail at least twice a day and a few days ago I when I was checking my hotmail account it said that I had 60 some new messages (which only happens if for some reason I don't check it for about a week). Well I go to my inbox to see what the deal is and lo and behold there was about 55 copies of the same e-mail. I don't know what kind of crack the sender was smoking, but geez sending me the same message 55 times? Holy Cow.
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<< I unsubscribe to as much as possible even though I never subscribed to most of the junk.
LMAO, just "click here" to be removed from this list. That is just their way to confirm a good email address. :Q >>
Not just that, you end up on lists of "confirmed valid email addresses of people who open and read spam". >>
I guess I must be the exception to that theory. Using the unsubscribe and/or opt-out links has greatly decreased the amount of spam I have been getting.
HomeBrewerDude
Lifer
i have been getting less too, though still more than would like (i.e. >0)
Well... you see it's like this....
Once upon a time there were these two non-profit organizations who's life mission was to rid the world of spam... great goal... unfortunatly, they went around enforcing it with Nazi tactics and didn't care who they hurt. For instance, a few years ago, I had a mail server that was produced by DEC. Compaq bought DEC and decided that they didn't want to be in the mail server business any more, so they said that when support contracts ran out, the product was gone... which is just what happened. Well... this product didn't have any good way to stop relaying... it was either full relay or internal mail only, no internet mail... so we obviously had been using the full relay. Well... someone got some spam that was bounced off of our server and they sent a copy to www.mail-abuse.org and our company was put into the RBL (real-time blackhole list) which meant that anyone who used their "list" of spammers as a filter couldn't receive any email from our company but also couldn't SEND any email to our company! They gave us NO warning... just dropped our name in their list. When we contacted them, they basically said "we'll give you 24 hours to fix it" or some non-sense like that. I explained the situation and told them that we indeed did want to do what was right, but we would need a couple of weeks to research/purchase/implement an entirely new email system. They said "no... you've got your time... it's your own fault.... tough". It costed us time and money and because they only have a "list" and don't make anyone use it, they said "sue us if you want... in fact, we LIKE being sued because we always win and it sets more precedent".
[the above "quotes" are apporximations.... it's been a few years]
We actually LIKE what these organizations do, but they do it so heavy handedly that they have created enemies all over the world that are NOT spammers, but just legitimate companies going through transitions with the rest of the internet.
Their reign of terror could not last for ever. One called ORBS (Online Relay Behavior-Modification System) was sued and LOST and was bankrupt and shut down (or so I understand... could be wrong as to the specifics, but they are GONE)... the other, the Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS). has a few basic lists, the "Realtime Blackhole List" the "Dialup Users List", the "Relay Spam Stopper" and the "Nonconfirmed Mailing List". After many law suits and the like, MAPS now is available not as a free service to the internet, but as a paid subscription only. I think that the full boat (all the lists) costs about $1700 per year and an addional fee per every X number of users us have.
Anyway...... that's the story on why the HUGE increase of internet spam. The services were there (MAPS and ORBS), they worked well, but they abused their power and now they are almost non-existant compared to what they once were. It's a shame too, because I believed in WHAT they were doing... if they had only been willing to modify HOW they were doing it, they may have succeeded and thus WE, the end users would have won... but because they wanted to be heavy handed, we all lost.
Joe
Once upon a time there were these two non-profit organizations who's life mission was to rid the world of spam... great goal... unfortunatly, they went around enforcing it with Nazi tactics and didn't care who they hurt. For instance, a few years ago, I had a mail server that was produced by DEC. Compaq bought DEC and decided that they didn't want to be in the mail server business any more, so they said that when support contracts ran out, the product was gone... which is just what happened. Well... this product didn't have any good way to stop relaying... it was either full relay or internal mail only, no internet mail... so we obviously had been using the full relay. Well... someone got some spam that was bounced off of our server and they sent a copy to www.mail-abuse.org and our company was put into the RBL (real-time blackhole list) which meant that anyone who used their "list" of spammers as a filter couldn't receive any email from our company but also couldn't SEND any email to our company! They gave us NO warning... just dropped our name in their list. When we contacted them, they basically said "we'll give you 24 hours to fix it" or some non-sense like that. I explained the situation and told them that we indeed did want to do what was right, but we would need a couple of weeks to research/purchase/implement an entirely new email system. They said "no... you've got your time... it's your own fault.... tough". It costed us time and money and because they only have a "list" and don't make anyone use it, they said "sue us if you want... in fact, we LIKE being sued because we always win and it sets more precedent".
[the above "quotes" are apporximations.... it's been a few years]
We actually LIKE what these organizations do, but they do it so heavy handedly that they have created enemies all over the world that are NOT spammers, but just legitimate companies going through transitions with the rest of the internet.
Their reign of terror could not last for ever. One called ORBS (Online Relay Behavior-Modification System) was sued and LOST and was bankrupt and shut down (or so I understand... could be wrong as to the specifics, but they are GONE)... the other, the Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS). has a few basic lists, the "Realtime Blackhole List" the "Dialup Users List", the "Relay Spam Stopper" and the "Nonconfirmed Mailing List". After many law suits and the like, MAPS now is available not as a free service to the internet, but as a paid subscription only. I think that the full boat (all the lists) costs about $1700 per year and an addional fee per every X number of users us have.
Anyway...... that's the story on why the HUGE increase of internet spam. The services were there (MAPS and ORBS), they worked well, but they abused their power and now they are almost non-existant compared to what they once were. It's a shame too, because I believed in WHAT they were doing... if they had only been willing to modify HOW they were doing it, they may have succeeded and thus WE, the end users would have won... but because they wanted to be heavy handed, we all lost.
Joe
Yep getting more the last week. I had it down to only 1 or 2 a day, now I am getting 15 or 16. I had filled up the 100 slots on Yahoo's block senders list, and also the 15 filters. I tried removing some of the old addresses from block senders so I could add new ones, but the stupid old spammers are still emailing me. Yahoo is going to have to increase their blocked senders list to 1000 before I can stop spam.
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