Is dial up faster now that everyone is on broadband?

[Fritzo]

LOL.


Also...LOL.

 

[MtnMan]

There is some technology here, that is completely beyond the OP's understanding of how things work.

 

[PingSpike]

Modern content heavy web pages on dial up would be horrific!

So due to some lying on some one's part I was stuck on dialup again from...2007 to maybe 2011 or 2012? It was much worse than my 90s experience because while web pages in the 90s were designed to break the back of a dialup connection, new webpages were designed to run slow on broadband connections.

I used ad blockers (obviously), occasionally browsed with images off (old 90s trick) and had a flash blocker. I'm really sad flash died because all I had to do was block flash and all the garbage went away. Now its all baked right into everything and hard to separate out.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Connection is carried out via dial-up (telephone) communication lines. As a rule, this is a city telephone network.

Nope it won’t be faster, as far as I know it is still limited by government to 50k or so.
Analog to digital to analog conversations will likely slow speeds even more

 

[Captante]

Idk ... are Model T's any faster now that every car on the road can cruise @ 70 mph?

 

[Stopsignhank]

All this talk of copper wires reminds of this. A phone building in the 30s had to be moved to make way for the new phone building. First it was moved 50 feet, then it was rotated 90 degrees. All while people still worked in there.

News story

 

[lxskllr]

If I remember right(op was a long time ago), I took the context to mean congestion is greatly reduced compared to when everyone had dialup, so there shouldn't be provisioning problems anymore. Back in the day, I always got fast connections with my shitty winmodem, but that shitty winmodem is what put off my gnu/linux adoption for years.

 

[Red Squirrel]

All this talk of copper wires reminds of this. A phone building in the 30s had to be moved to make way for the new phone building. First it was moved 50 feet, then it was rotated 90 degrees. All while people still worked in there.

News story

Telco history has always intrigued me. I work in a Telco CO and even this building has lot of history in it. The area where my office is now is actually where the old stepper switch used to be. Something like this:

I unfortunately never got to witness any of it in operation as it's before my time, but we do have the odd parts lying around.

Now days most stuff is running on DMS switches, which itself is pretty old. Late 70's vintage. They are working on phasing out some of that stuff to various VOIP based technologies and FTTH, so there is not really an actual central switch where the line connects but rather it's all software based through whatever protocol they use on the fibre. The "switch" is basically at the ONT and that's where the dialtone originates from.

Traditional phone actually has individual pairs all going to a frame which is cross connected to the line equipment, and also DSL if it's setup. Looks like this:

I've worked on it before, it's kinda interesting to think that the copper physically goes all the way to each individual customer. The cables downstairs can have 900+ pairs in them and they go out to the street and split off to neighbourhoods as they go further. That's normally the limiting factor to DSL speeds or even dialup back in the day. Lines with lot of taps or in poor conditions that get wet etc will have bad signal quality. The big cables have air pumped in them to try to keep water out.

You can also troubleshoot phone issues on there as you can connect a test set to the terminals to determine if an issue is on the outside or inside of the CO. My favourite is when I'm trying to terminate a new phone and someone keeps calling it. Nothing like a 170 volt zing to wake you up.

Been a while since I've touched that though, but when I was doing it, it was mostly out orders, but still lot of businesses using hard lines.

 

[brianmanahan]

Idk ... are Model T's any faster now that every car on the road can cruise @ 70 mph?

are horses faster now that everyone is driving a car?

 

[Svnla]

Why would anyone want to use dial up if they can help it? I can't go back to 56K of the good ole days. Remember the sound of the modem tried to log in? LOL.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Do Doooooooo dee dee dee dee dee dee dee........ Deee DLUU SHSHSHSHSHSHHSSHSHSHSHSHSHSHSHSHHS UHHSHSHSHS SSHSH SDIDNG DONG DING DING DING DONG DING SHSISIISISISISISISIS s SHUUUUSUUSUSUUSSUSUS BOOOOONG...BOOOOOONG....... PHSUSSSSS SHEIIIIISSS URU.

Yeah that's right, I was a badass with my V.90 56k USR. Notable by the BONG BONG sound.

 

[Stopsignhank]

Telco history has always intrigued me. I work in a Telco CO and even this building has lot of history in it. The area where my office is now is actually where the old stepper switch used to be. Something like this:

I unfortunately never got to witness any of it in operation as it's before my time, but we do have the odd parts lying around.

Now days most stuff is running on DMS switches, which itself is pretty old. Late 70's vintage. They are working on phasing out some of that stuff to various VOIP based technologies and FTTH, so there is not really an actual central switch where the line connects but rather it's all software based through whatever protocol they use on the fibre. The "switch" is basically at the ONT and that's where the dialtone originates from.

Traditional phone actually has individual pairs all going to a frame which is cross connected to the line equipment, and also DSL if it's setup. Looks like this:

I've worked on it before, it's kinda interesting to think that the copper physically goes all the way to each individual customer. The cables downstairs can have 900+ pairs in them and they go out to the street and split off to neighbourhoods as they go further. That's normally the limiting factor to DSL speeds or even dialup back in the day. Lines with lot of taps or in poor conditions that get wet etc will have bad signal quality. The big cables have air pumped in them to try to keep water out.

You can also troubleshoot phone issues on there as you can connect a test set to the terminals to determine if an issue is on the outside or inside of the CO. My favourite is when I'm trying to terminate a new phone and someone keeps calling it. Nothing like a 170 volt zing to wake you up.

Been a while since I've touched that though, but when I was doing it, it was mostly out orders, but still lot of businesses using hard lines.

Where is the little man made out of wires?

As a facility manager I learned to think where you are going to put your punch down block. Once you put them on the wall that is where they stay.

 

[Stopsignhank]

Idk ... are Model T's any faster now that every car on the road can cruise @ 70 mph?

Long story.

A year ago we moved to a house that has one acre. I told my wife that we needed a truck. Since it would be a third vehicle that was only occasionally be drive I told her we should get a cool truck and she agreed. I was looking at original trucks from the 30's. Then I found that the top speed for trucks from that era is 35 MPH. That was not going to work. So now I had to change what I was looking for. I preferred the styling of trucks made before the war. I found a 1941 Ford truck with a 1962 327 engine in it. (Why do they always put a Chevy engine in a Ford.)

Glamour shots.




TL;DR. No.