Is conscience an evolution baesd or creation based?

[routan]

I was having this discussion/argument with my friends. Thought I'd get the ATOT opinion.

Obviously this is not in the P&N forum, so please keep it non-political?

 

[Tweak155]

The question doesn't quite make sense. But either way I'm sure a war is about to break loose.

EDIT:

Space for rent.

 

[BrokenVisage]

I say evolution based, at some point our brains just got big enough for it to happen.

 

[corwin]

Sentience or a conscience? Two very different things...

 

[Farmer]

We are genetic descendants of dinosaurs. They inherited it from their extra-terrestrial creators.

 

[chalmers]

Let the arguing begin!

 

[Dirigible]

God made some dudes and they were all killin' each other and stealing candy from babies and stuff. God was all, "They gonna be hella whack without a damn conscience." So he thought about the best way to make it happen.

:hmm:

Then he was all, I'll ask my wife. But he got distracted when she presented him with godlike tasty sammiches when he went in the kitchen to ask her.

So it was evolution, 'cause God was too lazy to create it. He woulda done it eventually, but the evolutioning happened first while he was eating sammiches.


True story.

 

[sdifox]

nope, nurture. Conscience is taught.

 

[routan]

Sentience or a conscience? Two very different things...

conscience, i.e. an aptitude, faculty, intuition or judgment of the intellect that distinguishes right from wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscience


as a side question, do you believe any other animal/s have conscience?

 

[thraashman]

nope, nurture. Conscience is taught.

Humans by our nature are just a more advanced pack animal. Lions, wolves, bees are all pack animals of some type. In order for any pack to survive, a social structure is evolved. Some of the behavior is inherent and instinctual, some of it is learned. However, even the learned behavior is really just an evolutionary concept passed down the pack based on a need to survive. And the need to survive is inherently a need for the pack to survive.

In short, evolution is my answer.

 

[sdifox]

Humans by our nature are just a more advanced pack animal. Lions, wolves, bees are all pack animals of some type. In order for any pack to survive, a social structure is evolved. Some of the behavior is inherent and instinctual, some of it is learned. However, even the learned behavior is really just an evolutionary concept passed down the pack based on a need to survive. And the need to survive is inherently a need for the pack to survive.

In short, evolution is my answer.

Animals don't really have conscience do they?

 

[zinfamous]

what a dumb fucking question.

 

[TridenT]

what a dumb fucking question.

this

 

[DaveSimmons]

Chimps value fair play too, so I guess they go to heaven if they accept His Noodly Appendage into their heart (splat! ow!)

Ramen.

http://www.neatorama.com/2010/04/22/chimps-value-fair-play/

 

[dighn]

wth is creation based?

 

[DaveSimmons]

wth is creation based?

Divinely imbued into a chimp's nature by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. He has that power.

 

[destrekor]

Oooo first page still.

For rent. Asking price doubles with every new page.

 

[Kadarin]

Nobody can factually state that conscience or sentience is bestowed upon us by a divine Creator, because such a Creator cannot itself be factually established (i.e. it's a matter of belief and faith). From a scientific perspective, as far as I'm aware there's nothing in the Theory of Evolution that doesn't permit conscience/sentience to evolve as a condition of changing environment, but this is a position that is certainly open to change if there is observational or experimental evidence that supports or refutes the idea.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

I'm thinking evolution because if a creator had imbued a conscience then everyone should have one, and that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Since conscience is "real" and not imagined, then the answer is obviously evolution, since it is factual, and creation is only real in the imagination.

 

[Manchimp]

Divinely imbued into a chimp's nature by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. He has that power.

How does one subscribe to this religion?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

How does one subscribe to this religion?

There's a secret room in every Olive Garden but you have to know the password.

 

[DangerAardvark]

There's a secret room in every Olive Garden but you have to know the password.

Is it "free breadsticks"?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Is it "free breadsticks"?

It's "pasta fagioli" but you have to pronounce it properly or risk being branded a heretic.

 

[qliveur]

nope, nurture. Conscience is taught.

I'm inclined to agree.

Conscience would appear to be counter-evolutionary.