Is comcast's static IP service a scam?

[FreshPrince]

comcast will try to charge your a crap load of money if you request static ip by making you go with a business plan. But, when was the last time your router's IP changed?

with my lowly resident cable internet service, I have tried many different techniques to try and get my router to grab a different address with no success. When I vacationed in europe last year for 2 weeks, I turned off all my equipment including the router.

when I got back, I still got the same IP....surely the DHCP lease would've expired long before the 2 weeks, causing my router to grap a new IP address...

I think they're already handing out static IP's to each household anyways....but if you request it, they will send you to the business account and try to rip you a new one

 

[dighn]

I think that's the case with most cable providers, but the point is that it may change. if you rely on it for a business, when it changes you are screwed

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: dighn
I think that's the case with most cable providers, but the point is that it may change. if you rely on it for a business, when it changes you are screwed

aye.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: dighn
I think that's the case with most cable providers, but the point is that it may change. if you rely on it for a business, when it changes you are screwed

I understand that, but like I said, I think they're already handing everyone a static ip anyways...which is why I think it's a scam.

 

[The Stigenator]

mine changes..

i just use dyndns.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: dighn
I think that's the case with most cable providers, but the point is that it may change. if you rely on it for a business, when it changes you are screwed

I understand that, but like I said, I think they're already handing everyone a static ip anyways...which is why I think it's a scam.

No the are not. You may think they are, and their DHCP lease times or their reserved DHCP process might make it seem like that is the case, but you are wrong.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
mine changes..

i just use dyndns.

:thumbsup:

 

[fire400]

Sprint charges 5 bucks more for a Static IP address. I find this pointless if you have software poweful enough to comprehend a static IP address in which you can authorize your computer with firewall settings in order to play a game over the Internet without any flaws in identification and persistence of required hardware addressing.

Static IP should be free, even to gamers, hell yeah it's a scam, you just work your way around with knowing how to program your computer to work the way you want it ...

NOT THE WAY YOUR ISP IS TRYING TO WORK YOUR WALLET.

Otherwise, if you really need a Static IP address, it is useful for some users who know what they are doing. Thank you for bringing up this topic.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
mine changes..

i just use dyndns.

how often? did you wake up one morning and your ip changed? or have you been gone for a long time and came back to a different ip?

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Mine hasn't changed in years...

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: dighn
I think that's the case with most cable providers, but the point is that it may change. if you rely on it for a business, when it changes you are screwed

I understand that, but like I said, I think they're already handing everyone a static ip anyways...which is why I think it's a scam.

No the are not. You may think they are, and their DHCP lease times or their reserved DHCP process might make it seem like that is the case, but you are wrong.

does someone work for comcast?

why would they make their lease time longer than 2 weeks if their residential service is fully dhcp? it's not I tell you!

they're just trying to rip businesses and people who "need" static ip

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Mine hasn't changed in years...

I've had mine since road runner/media one days and I still have the same IP from day 1

 

[PandaBear]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: dighn
I think that's the case with most cable providers, but the point is that it may change. if you rely on it for a business, when it changes you are screwed

I understand that, but like I said, I think they're already handing everyone a static ip anyways...which is why I think it's a scam.

It is the "guarantee" that cost the money, not how frequently they will be changing it. It is the same for most things in life, the cost between 99%, 99.9%, and 99.999% could be 1000x. But that 0.001% could means working and not working in some situation (i.e. if you are running a transaction server without DHCP or if you need to guarantee up time for your client).

 

[boyRacer]

Sometimes mine changes just by restarting the modem and router.

But I could change it by changing the mac address on the router.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: PandaBear

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: dighn
I think that's the case with most cable providers, but the point is that it may change. if you rely on it for a business, when it changes you are screwed

I understand that, but like I said, I think they're already handing everyone a static ip anyways...which is why I think it's a scam.

It is the "guarantee" that cost the money, not how frequently they will be changing it. It is the same for most things in life, the cost between 99%, 99.9%, and 99.999% could be 1000x. But that 0.001% could means working and not working in some situation (i.e. if you are running a transaction server without DHCP or if you need to guarantee up time for your client).

but we're talking ip address, not SLA.

I have a lowly residential phone service from BellSouth....my phone number don't change every month

why, if you're an ISP would you want your customers to have DHCP anyways? If would be hella hard to track anything....

Which is why again, if everyone is given a static ip address from the get go, it would make tracking easy.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: bR
Sometimes mine changes just by restarting the modem and router.

But I could change it by changing the mac address on the router.

also tried that

 

[Goosemaster]

You people simply do not understand the interworking of the internet to ask such questions.

An no I don't work for comcast...if anything, they have managed to create quitea bit of tension between me and them due to sup-par customer service. Recently everythign has been fine though.


I will atempt to address your issue however. We are currently using IPv4, which allows for addrresses that are 32bits in length. When it was not only designed but implmented, it was thought that the billions of address-combinations available usign a 32bit scheme were inexhaustable.

Due to the boom of IP-based devices that require access, and do the flux in subscriber bases due to outcoing and incoming customers, using static IPs is simply a PITA to manage when DHCP with MAC-address binding is so much easier to use.

Yeah they want to charge you more for it, and yeah they are corporate leeches, but in the end, due to the current state and interworkign of our Internnet Protocol, it is understandable.

Read up on IPv6 before you give me the vapors:|

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: PandaBear

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: dighn
I think that's the case with most cable providers, but the point is that it may change. if you rely on it for a business, when it changes you are screwed

I understand that, but like I said, I think they're already handing everyone a static ip anyways...which is why I think it's a scam.

It is the "guarantee" that cost the money, not how frequently they will be changing it. It is the same for most things in life, the cost between 99%, 99.9%, and 99.999% could be 1000x. But that 0.001% could means working and not working in some situation (i.e. if you are running a transaction server without DHCP or if you need to guarantee up time for your client).

but we're talking ip address, not SLA.

I have a lowly residential phone service from BellSouth....my phone number don't change every month

why, if you're an ISP would you want your customers to have DHCP anyways? If would be hella hard to track anything....

Which is why again, if everyone is given a static ip address from the get go, it would make tracking easy.

Plug in modem to a hot interface, get IP address from pool automatically after it synchs up digitally and go.

 

[skyking]

Comcast's dhcp servers will give the same address out to the same MAC address, so long as it has not been given to another device on the net. If you were to unplug your modem and router for an extended period of time, you can bet you will not get your old address. It will be long gone, leased to another dhcp client.
It may not have happened to any of you posting in this thread, but comcast and other ISP re-arrange the address pools and reorganize things now and again. That is how those of you who had the same address for years, one day you come home and it is different. Most of the time it is a completely different class "c" range.
One of my clients on centurytel had a dynamic address that changed every day! What a PITA that was. I called and got an upgraded plan for less money and a static IP. Now I can find them on the net