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Is Cloutier good enough?
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Eagle1Fox2
Senior member
I wish the Rangers still had Cloutier. If they did, they'd have a good tandem w/ him and Dunham, just like how the Wild have Fernandez and Rolosson. Dunham's pretty good for the incredible # of shots the rangers defense, if you can call it that, give up. But I do think Cloutier's good enough to win it, and he's only gonna get better.
RagingBITCH
Lifer
Turco has the goods but this season will be the turning point for Turco. Without Hatcher Dallas' defense is a little weak, it'll be a good test to see what he's really made of. Based solely off last season's performance though, he is a stellar goalie.
Eagle1Fox2
Senior member
yeah I like Blackburn, especially how he filled in as the #1 when richter 1st got hurt last yr, and I think he's gonna be good, but I don't think hes got as much potential as Cloutier. (I'll also never forget when Cloutier beat the hell outta Salo when he was still on the Fishsticks, lol.)
You need someone without serious problems in the clutch with the ability to bounce back. All the big winners have that quality. They may have bad days but you'll veryVERY rarely ever see it happen twice.
And once again, Brodeur is UNDERRATED... w00t! Methinks Turco will end up with the same problem. But then all those hockey columnists seem to hate NJ and Brodeur despite is being consistently one of the best goalies every single year! He's helped people win Cups and Gold.
And once again, Brodeur is UNDERRATED... w00t! Methinks Turco will end up with the same problem. But then all those hockey columnists seem to hate NJ and Brodeur despite is being consistently one of the best goalies every single year! He's helped people win Cups and Gold.
silverpig
Lifer
Actually, Vancouver LOST 4-0 to Dallas that game... It was their only loss all month.
In 2 games agains the Wild, and one against each of Colorado, Detroit, and St Louis, Cloutier let in a grand total of 9 goals in 5 games. That's a great GAA against some of the league's top teams.
Cloutier has a lot to prove before he can be considered good enough to win the cup.
Remember two years ago when the Canucks had the Wings against the ropes? Down 2-0 in the series, the game was tied 1-1 with less than a minute left in the 2nd period of game three. Cloutier let a SOFT shot by Lidstrom in from the red line. Cloutier never recovered and the Wings went on to win the series (and the Cup, woo!).
He is a good regular season goalie, but he needs to make more of a statement in the playoffs. The Canucks have great forwards and defensemen. Cloutier needs to step it up for them to have a legitimate shot at a run in the playoffs.
Remember two years ago when the Canucks had the Wings against the ropes? Down 2-0 in the series, the game was tied 1-1 with less than a minute left in the 2nd period of game three. Cloutier let a SOFT shot by Lidstrom in from the red line. Cloutier never recovered and the Wings went on to win the series (and the Cup, woo!).
He is a good regular season goalie, but he needs to make more of a statement in the playoffs. The Canucks have great forwards and defensemen. Cloutier needs to step it up for them to have a legitimate shot at a run in the playoffs.
Turco was the man at UM. He set the mark for career wins by a goalie and won two championships.
That being said, I think he had a good year last year, but was the beneficiary of seeing very few good shots. Hatcher, Zubov, Sydor and the rest of the Stars D were great.
I think he will have a good year this year, but his numbers will not be as good as last year's. I also don't think he is ready to win it all. He needs a couple more years as a starting goalie in the NHL and the Stars as a team need to bond.
Maybe because the Canucks had the Wings by the short hairs and Cloutier was playing very well before it happened. After that goal, Cloutier couldn't stop ANYTHING (10 goals on 33 shots).
He pulled the same thing last year, blowing a 3-1 lead against the Wild and letting in 25% of the shots he saw in the last three games to blow that series too.
Edit: And don't think I am not sympathetic. I am a Wings fan and I had to hear about it regarding Osgood and his affinity for NOT stopping red line shots until he finally won the Cup.
the funny thing about JS is taht he used to play with one of our goalies in the juniors (Tylor Moss). They shared Goalie MVP one year with quite similar stats. Too bad he will never make it onto the big team.......... Hedberg & Auld are above him on the depth chart. I hope Moss gets traded to a team that can use him.
Cheers,
Aquaman
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