JeffreyLebowski
Lifer
Surgury= problem fixed, chiropractor= proplem still exists, they are just alieviating the pain
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Is chiropractic a scam?
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Surgury= problem fixed, chiropractor= proplem still exists, they are just alieviating the pain
I also saw the BS show by P&T...which is one of the reasons of this thread. SagaLore, as an exam, my chiro (husband and wife business) took x-rays and measurements of body temp at diff. locations during the 1st day. The 2nd day, she showed us the results, along with tracings of the current curvature of the spine and where it should be. From that, she figured that I have a small bone spur growth at the bottom of my (really straight) neck, etc.
A couple who are friends of ours goes there regularly and the adjustments relieved her headaches. The chiro recommended that we go daily for the first few weeks, take another set of x-rays to measure the progress, then taper off the visits according to the results.
The funny thing is that we went because we're allowed 20 visits/yr to a chiro with a $10 copay. Now it may end up costing a lot more than that!
A couple who are friends of ours goes there regularly and the adjustments relieved her headaches. The chiro recommended that we go daily for the first few weeks, take another set of x-rays to measure the progress, then taper off the visits according to the results.
The funny thing is that we went because we're allowed 20 visits/yr to a chiro with a $10 copay. Now it may end up costing a lot more than that!
TreyRandom
Diamond Member
They're not just "alleviating the pain" if they remove the pressure from the nerve and it stays fixed. My IBS is gone - whether it was due to chiropractic or not is debatable. And although I still have some slight neck stiffness at times, it is nowhere near the constant pain levels it was at 5 years ago. Granted, my case is just one person's experiences. Your mileage may vary.
Surgery doesn't always fix problems, but it does have a good success rate. The main issues are whether you can deal with the risks involved with the surgical procedure, the costs, and the healing afterwards.
TreyRandom
Diamond Member
Then only go 20 visits a year - tell your chiro that insurance will only cover a certain amount. If you go once or twice a week for the first month, you should be able to tell if it's working well enough for you to commit to more treatments than the insurance maximum allows.
IMO you would have gotten better advice quicker from a certified physical therapist under the direction of a medical doctor. To me, Chiropractic is a poor mans form of physical therapy without any of the strength building that a therapist will try to do for you. When I had physical therapy on my back they spent the first couple days showing me how to stretch and what to stretch to get the muscle to stop spasming, they also have access to electronic and ultrasonic muscle stimulation. I admit I haven't been to one and that in certain cases they can help but I think in most cases they do either nothing or harm the individual, especially if the problem is muscle related instead of bone.
TreyRandom
Diamond Member
A lot of it pays for the chiropractic equipment, facilities, and the chiro's education. 🙁
That's a heck of an hourly rate though, if they're full-up busy... $420/hr.
You're kidding right? If you know ANYTHING about chiropracty, you'll know that they have to know how to adjust the human fvcking body. They can push up on the roof of your mouth and it'll make your feet feel better. You'd be amazed at how everythings connected, and they spend years going through school to learn the human body in and out. Get a clue man.
I thought I was clear about how the Chiropractor taught me how/when/why to stretch. She also used electronic stimulation (ON MY BACK!!!) to help calm the spasms before the adjustments.
I went once a week for a couple months, then every other week, then once a month. This lasted probably six-eight months, and I haven't been there in a few years. 🙂
I visited probably seven doctors about my back, and nobody suggested physical therapy. Like I said, they prescribed anti-inflammatories, pain killers, muscle relaxors, and even discussed surgery.
SP33Demon
Lifer
I will echo many sentiments that there are good ones, and bad ones. If you are injured in sports, I would look for a Chiro with more of an athletic/sports record than a regular one. I've had a friend who had a weight lifting injury in his back and the chiro didn't do a dam thing to fix it, just wasted his time and money. So then he went for a 2nd opinion and found a chiro with a sports background and the guy fixed it a week. Basically, all are different and you can't generalize the group as a whole b/c your YMMV.
midnightrat
Senior member
Wow, I'm suprised at how controversial this topic is. Well at least it's generated some interesting discussions.
I'm just glad that some of you guys don't believe the propaganda that the AMA has been driving into everyone for the past 50 years or so. There's a reason why more people saw an alternative health care provider in the last 2-3 years than they saw their MD's. In any case, do a little research, ask questions, and don't believe the people who claim to be experts yet have never been to a Chiropractor.
I'm just glad that some of you guys don't believe the propaganda that the AMA has been driving into everyone for the past 50 years or so. There's a reason why more people saw an alternative health care provider in the last 2-3 years than they saw their MD's. In any case, do a little research, ask questions, and don't believe the people who claim to be experts yet have never been to a Chiropractor.
MichaelD
Lifer
Well put. I did not read 99% of the posts here, but I'll throw my two cents in b/c I saw a Chiro for almost THREE years.
If you get a guy (or gal) that knows what they are doing, it WORKS and it WORKS WELL.
I have a disc bulge at L5-S1. I also get pains in my neck at the C2-C3 area. I was very hard on my body when I was younger; now it has come back to haunt me.
Immediately after a treatment, (a "cracking" as I called it 😀) I felt the pain just melt away. Pain is real. Absence of it is also real.
Fact of the matter is that Chiorpractic manipulates the bones in the body to take pressure off nerves that are getting pinched. That's how it works. I miss my Chiro. 🙁
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
To be honest, the answer to your question is probably a yes and a no.
Anyone who thinks chiropractic is the be all and end all of treatment is a nutcase. There was a girl who went to college with me who thought chiropractic treatments would cure/avoid such things as even strept throat, colds, the flu, etc. (then again, she claimed she had never had any of those in her lifetime - her dad was a good chiropracter.) Still, I doubt it.
On the other hand, I had frequent headaches... daily or every other day. I had pretty much traced it back to a rear-ending accident (I was hit from behind). I could always feel a small lump on the back of my neck. After the treatment, that "lump" that I thought was normal was gone. And, since those visits, I rarely end up with headaches. (in fact, I can only recall using Tylenol 3 or 4 times this school year - I keep it in my desk and usually wipe out a few hundred Tylenols a year. Twice, it was to keep a fever down.)
So, in my experience, yes, a good chiropractor may be able to offer some relief from pain due to misaligned vertebrae. But, as far as curing cancer.... call me skeptical at best.
Anyone who thinks chiropractic is the be all and end all of treatment is a nutcase. There was a girl who went to college with me who thought chiropractic treatments would cure/avoid such things as even strept throat, colds, the flu, etc. (then again, she claimed she had never had any of those in her lifetime - her dad was a good chiropracter.) Still, I doubt it.
On the other hand, I had frequent headaches... daily or every other day. I had pretty much traced it back to a rear-ending accident (I was hit from behind). I could always feel a small lump on the back of my neck. After the treatment, that "lump" that I thought was normal was gone. And, since those visits, I rarely end up with headaches. (in fact, I can only recall using Tylenol 3 or 4 times this school year - I keep it in my desk and usually wipe out a few hundred Tylenols a year. Twice, it was to keep a fever down.)
So, in my experience, yes, a good chiropractor may be able to offer some relief from pain due to misaligned vertebrae. But, as far as curing cancer.... call me skeptical at best.
spikemasta
Senior member
i like to go, im an athlete, and i do feel better for going...i have good insurance that covers a good deal.
yukichigai
Diamond Member
You totally missed the point of that episode.
The episode in question was investigating so-called "alternative" medicines. The reason they were covering Chiropracty is because certain Chiropractors claim that re-adjusting your spine, etc. can improve your overall health and help you fight disease. This is, of course, crap. Chiropracty can at the most re-align certain joints and bones, thereby preventing bone/joint damage and pain caused by said misalignment. In fact -- and I'm wondering how you missed this -- Penn and Teller (okay, just Penn) even said that Chiropracty was a valid medical specialization and not a complete crock. The only "bullsh!t" part they identified were the claims that having your spine re-aligned will cure a cold, etc. etc.
So anyway quan, if your back really hurts and your spine is truly curved improperly you should go to a Chiropractor. You'll feel a lot better.
I'm thinking about going in for one for Active Release Therapy in the next week (for a chronically injured hamstring), but don't know how to tell if the ones I find are good or not. It's $80 per session, so it's expensive, but is expected to take a maximum of 4 sessions total. 😕
Rob
Rob
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