is cat6 'faster' than cat5e between 2 nics?

[Red Squirrel]

Cat6 is incredibly difficult to crimp. I don't know any pro that would even try to do it.

Moral of the story, don't crimp ends onto cables. Follow the specs and avoid problems. As mentioned above I've made a crap load of money off of people that think making cables somehow saved them money. I've seen bad or improperly installed cabling, honestly, 1000s of instances. And I'm paid to find the problems and assess.

1st question upon assignment - cabling and speak to the guy in charge of it. Why I never went and got my RCDD is beyond me.

That would explain it, so is it that the pins just don't go through the cable as well? So if you do want to crimp, best to stick to cat5 then?

But yeah with monoprice being so cheap best to just buy premade cat6... But when you need a cable NOW then crimping is the only way even if it has to be a temporary measure.

 

[notposting]

Need proper connectors (cat5e/cat6 and for stranded/not-stranded) for whatever cable you would like to crimp. And yes, it's not rocket science, but neither are most of the trades I work alongside and they can all do their job better than you (or I) could ever hope to. On the bright side service calls pay good.

Should be taking the BICSI Tech test this fall...maybe go for the RCDD down the road.

edit: cat6 connectors are different due to the thickness of the wire--they stagger/layer the wire inside the connector rather than straight across. But feel free to do it the wrong way...we will be there...in your data center...fixing your mistakes...charging exorbitant rates 😛

 

[skyking]

Yes. Cat5x = 100mbps, Cat6x = 1gpbs. You can theoricly get over 100mbps with cat5e for short distances. At home I installed all cat6 in walls but using cat5e patch cords and I get about 300mbps or so. When I replace the patch cords with cat6 I'm sure it will go up.

I'm quoting that because it is absolutely wrong. CAT5E cable is rated for 1000BaseT (gigabit) ethernet. This is for the whole length of 100 meters.


I think you may be confused with the early cat6a specification, where it was rated for 10GbE (10Gigabit) ethernet for up to 55 meters.

 

[country2]

That would explain it, so is it that the pins just don't go through the cable as well? So if you do want to crimp, best to stick to cat5 then?

But yeah with monoprice being so cheap best to just buy premade cat6... But when you need a cable NOW then crimping is the only way even if it has to be a temporary measure.

I would not buy cheap cables from Monoprice. I went that route last year when I ran cat5e throughout my house and wired all my computers in and had 3 out of 10 that would not connect at giga speeds due to the cheap cables. Made 3 cables at work next day and it fixed them

Funny that everything I did was good and the store bought stuff had issues.

 

[dman]

Nice little review @ Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabit-ethernet-bandwidth,2321-8.html

 

[Red Squirrel]

I would not buy cheap cables from Monoprice. I went that route last year when I ran cat5e throughout my house and wired all my computers in and had 3 out of 10 that would not connect at giga speeds due to the cheap cables. Made 3 cables at work next day and it fixed them

Funny that everything I did was good and the store bought stuff had issues.

What's another good place then? I just don't want to be paying like 60 bucks per cable like here localy.

 

[Zargon]

I dont touch cat6 personally. Much harder to work with properly as others have stated.

I have had good luck with monoprice, had a few bad cables, but I have purchased probably a 1000 of them.

 

[imagoon]

any real line I run terminates at a punch down block. sometimes you have those odd single or few use cables that apparantly needed done yesterday but no bothered to ask, then they get a hastily run crimped down rush job that will test out as good.

and if it ends up being a good place for a cable, then that one becomes the pull cable for a real run.

lets not forget the OP is talking about a temp cable run being used for a few days. not a home run/part of the backbone.

Since it is temp, I would honestly throw solid core, and punch the ends on to keystones. Then use patches from the device the keystone. Since it is temp you can just leave it on the floor, or use leftover pieces of copper to just tie it to the rack.

 

[imagoon]

What's another good place then? I just don't want to be paying like 60 bucks per cable like here localy.

Buy them from monoprice still. Just buy a few extras. They get bad cables just like everyone else. I have high end cables like belden and even those periodically have issues. I know I sound like I am hiding something here (I am per agreement actually): but we had a "big name" have to pay us to rerun an entire building because we had a >66% failure rate per box of 1000' cable. Cat6 was testing @ lower than cat3. Something to the order of 6000 drops had to be redone...

One thing to know, it is far more expensive to rerun cables when the walls and ceilings are up than when you are still at the frame...

 

[cubeless]

i've bought about 200 cables lately from cablewholesale.com (they've had a big sale on xovers)... and not had a bad one yet... but i always order an extra one...

and i've crimped a lot of ends onto cat5e... the only permanent ones i've done are for my house, and they all run 1Gb fine... most of my cables are just temps to do transfers of servers...

and wow... this is almost like p&n... i thought it was a pretty innocent question... seems there's plenty of feeling in the network world... ;p

 

[imagoon]

and wow... this is almost like p&n... i thought it was a pretty innocent question... seems there's plenty of feeling in the network world... ;p

Nah this is pretty tame compared to that corner...