Is Bush a fascist?

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: totalcommand
I would support a lock of this thread.

But before the lock comes, let me say that Bush is showing fascist tendencies, and his justification for bending the law shows it.

Fascism starts when you justify everything by the results and not the liberties that are broken in the process.

So do you think Bush is doing these things because he wants to turn America into a fascist state, or because he thinks he's doing what's best for America and trying to protect it?

Indeed.

The saddest part of all of this is that he does not realize it. He thinks he is doing what's best for America, bet yet, he's destroying the core of our value system, the Constitution, in the process.

This is all planned and executed by the Republicans, almost all is going off without a hitch, minor glitches here and there like 2,000 plus American soldiers lives.

So when does the resolution to dissolve our legislative, executive, and judicial branches hit the floor and make President Bush into Chancellor Bush?

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: morkinva

Originally posted by: Martin
I have yet to see the Secret Service carry an axe wrapped in bitch rods...so that's encouraging.
http://www.legionxxiv.org/fasces%20page/fascesright500.jpg

You mean like the ones pictured in Congress or the back of the dime?

What are those things with the axes?

Those are fasces, which were a symbol of authority in ancient Rome (in fact, if you watch the HBO show, you will notice Ceasar's guards carrying those - one of the many nice touches they put in). That's where the word "Fascism" comes from.

 

[Steeplerot]

Bush is very much holding up a fascist agenda but not hitler's national socialism as is usually assosiated with "fascism"

Benito Mussolini was a very famous fascist who's "new empire dream" reeks of our current PNAC doctrine and corporate pandering got him into power.

Birds of a feather.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Bush is very much holding up a fascist agenda but not hitler's national socialism as is usually assosiated with "fascism"

Benito Mussolini was a very famous fascist who's "new empire dream" reeks of our current PNAC doctrine and corporate pandering got him into power.

There is nothing particularly wrong or inherently evil with the philosophy of capitalist fascism, as envisioned by Mussolini...his vision was a reasonable alternative to the increasingly incompetent liberal Italian state and the growing anxiety towards socialism...unfortunately, absolute power does corrupt, and Mussolini's state deviated significantly from the system of government he envisioned.

Similarly, there is nothing inherently evil or wrong with a pure socialist state.

 

[tommywishbone]

II Duce! One of my favorites.

 

[Moonbeam]

No, he turned Jews into Leftists and now it's just not the same. Oh wait.

 

[sandorski]

Another vote for No, but he has Fascist tendencies. If another 9/11 happened he'd likely move further towards it.

 

[colonel]

I hope someone can pull from the net what is really Facism, I have my names, Franco, Mussolini, Pinochet, but what i read in the post nobody is close to the really facista mug.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism#Authoritarianism_and_ideology

 

[colonel]

II Duce! One of my favorites.

Benito!!!

 

[jlmadyson]

Not locked yet, wow.

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: totalcommand
I would support a lock of this thread.

But before the lock comes, let me say that Bush is showing fascist tendencies, and his justification for bending the law shows it.

Fascism starts when you justify everything by the results and not the liberties that are broken in the process.

So do you think Bush is doing these things because he wants to turn America into a fascist state, or because he thinks he's doing what's best for America and trying to protect it?

Indeed.

The saddest part of all of this is that he does not realize it. He thinks he is doing what's best for America, bet yet, he's destroying the core of our value system, the Constitution, in the process.

This is all planned and executed by the Republicans, almost all is going off without a hitch, minor glitches here and there like 2,000 plus American soldiers lives.

So when does the resolution to dissolve our legislative, executive, and judicial branches hit the floor and make President Bush into Chancellor Bush?

You do realize that those exist in EOs right? Not all are signed but many are written and waiting for a sig. I'm not 100% sure if the cases you listed are signed EOs or not tho.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Not locked yet, wow.

Of course not. It is a valid question considering what is going on in this country.
It is interesting to note that except for the Bush fanbois just about every single poster sees a strong resemblence to fascist ideology in the Bush agenda.

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Not locked yet, wow.

Of course not. It is a valid question considering what is going on in this country.
It is interesting to note that except for the Bush fanbois just about every single poster sees a strong resemblence to fascist ideology in the Bush agenda.

Yes as about as interesting as your other thread that got locked. Now lets get serious.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Not locked yet, wow.

Of course not. It is a valid question considering what is going on in this country.
It is interesting to note that except for the Bush fanbois just about every single poster sees a strong resemblence to fascist ideology in the Bush agenda.

Yes as about as interesting as your other thread that got locked. Now lets get serious.

To which thread are your referring? Oh. You meant the one where I ask Bush a question at his press conference.
Did you notice that someone else then posted an extremely similiar post that is not locked?
Here's the link:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1761444&enterthread=y

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: jlmadyson

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Not locked yet, wow.

Of course not. It is a valid question considering what is going on in this country.
It is interesting to note that except for the Bush fanbois just about every single poster sees a strong resemblence to fascist ideology in the Bush agenda.

Yes as about as interesting as your other thread that got locked. Now lets get serious.

To which thread are your referring? Oh. You meant the one where I ask Bush a question at his press conference.
Did you notice that someone else then posted an extremely similiar post that is not locked?
Here's the link:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1761444&enterthread=y

No I haven't, but I did notice how you have not offered one thread of evidence as to Bush being fascist. This thread isn't even worth the space.

 

[nergee]

Originally posted by: ntdz
I think you are insane, and that you need to stop making a bunch of worthless threads. Also, learn how to format a post correctly...

agreed.........

 

[alchemize]

At least you could have put forth the effort to drag up the characteristics of a fascist like everyone else did!

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Naseum

 

[MAW1082]

Originally posted by: techs
When you look at he characterics of fascist states like Germany and Italy during the 30's and 40's you can't help but see the similiarites in George Bushes politcal philosopy and that of those fascist states.
I have never been one of those people who scream Fascist whenever the government does something I don't like, but the Bushies leave me with no other possible conclusion but that they want a fascist state.
What do ya think?

Unfortunately there is no exact definition of Facism; therefore, most Bush supporters will point out any difference between Nazi Germany and the current America as evidence that the U.S. is not an example of Fascism.

The fact of the matter, however, is that the United States now fully supports domestic spying, secret prisons, aggressive 'pre-emptive' wars and strict free market economics.

Now I am no historian, but it seems to me like the current state of politics in the United States is eerily similar to politics in Germany in the 1930s.

We livin' in a police state.

 

[techs]

And I should add that Germany stimulated its economy thru huge deficit spending. In fact Germany had to have planned on wars of aggression because that was the only way it could hope to pay off the money it owed.
I wonder if the Bushies are planning on going to war with China or perhaps another countryi in order to get out from under the crushing debt?
Just a thought.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: techs
And I should add that Germany stimulated its economy thru huge deficit spending. In fact Germany had to have planned on wars of aggression because that was the only way it could hope to pay off the money it owed.
I wonder if the Bushies are planning on going to war with China or perhaps another countryi in order to get out from under the crushing debt?
Just a thought.

You are a fool if you believe Germany was motivated to go to war because they wanted money.

 

[WiseOldDude]

Except for the pesky old Constitution and the Bill of Rights he would be, and he hasn't given up yet. He is rabid about wanting to continue the illegal wiretaps, and even it told no I'm sure he will continue. I bet some of you think he was kidding when he said being president would be easier if this was a dictatorship, uhhhh, he wasn't kidding, that is what he really wants.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: techs
And I should add that Germany stimulated its economy thru huge deficit spending. In fact Germany had to have planned on wars of aggression because that was the only way it could hope to pay off the money it owed.
I wonder if the Bushies are planning on going to war with China or perhaps another countryi in order to get out from under the crushing debt?
Just a thought.

You are a fool if you believe Germany was motivated to go to war because they wanted money.

Heh - yah they wanted to repay debtors. Why, Nazi Germany was just poor folks stealing bread!

Techs is like a dumb infohawk with a splash of Riprorin.

 

[daveymark]

The trolls seem to come out more during the holidays - Tis' the season! Thanks for the trollbait OP!

 

[BBond]

Bush = Fascist

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: piasabird
It is not like he has rounded up the media and had them all shot like some of them deserve. Maybe he should round up everyone that has called him a lyar and thrown them in jail.

dude, relax, you're showing your own true colors. this is what's scary some of us on the left have gone so far left that we'd welcome back in Stalin, and some of you on the right would hug Mussolini.