Is Building a Computer Cheap? Need the Hardsware Gods to help answer this.

KKiller

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I'm a computer intermediate, and I was wondering if I could get some of you hardware gods to take a crack at this question. I was under the impression that building a computer is the cheapest solution for a wickedly fast computer. However, I read an article on Extremetech that reaches the opposite conclusion, i.e. that a pre-built computer can be as fast and as cheap as home built.

http://www.extremetech.com/article/0,3396,s=1005&a=26285,00.asp (link to article)

I find this conclusion stunning and wonder if I should continue building my own computers, if there is no cost difference. I wondering what the opinion of the hardware gods was on this.
 

Adul

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I build my own for the reason is I get what i want exactly. I choose what I feel are quality parts and assemble them. Then I can freely do upgrades to my sytem when ever i want.

Like anew MB and CPU, or more ram, or new video card. or maybe a new case. Whatever I choose I get what I want when i want however I want.
 

fatbaby

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It is entirely up to you

If you have never built a computer, building one may be a good experience for you

Right now, building a computer usually saves you a few $$ (maybe $50-200 depending on your computer, low end computer meaning you save $50, high end saving upwards of $500)

But if you have already built a computer, and you are lazy, go for the prebuilt

But it is entirely up to you
 

bozo1

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I agree with their conclusion. However, one of the numerous pluses about building your own is that you can select each component.

I've build dozens of computers for friends over the years and even using the cheapest components I could, it was still cheaper to get something prebuilt, at least in the last 2 years or so. Add in the cost of purchasing a legit copy of the OS, a legit copy of MS Works or MS Office, or whatever would come on the pre-built and the difference is even much greater.

The last system I built for someone ended up costing right around one of the Gateway or Dell systems you see advertised. In this case, the guy already had a monitor, had a keyboard, had a mouse and I threw in a 1.33 T-Bird and 30GB drive I had sitting around - the prebuilt ones had all that stuff included. :(

 

Daovonnaex

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Building a computer is typically cheaper, especially when most parts are ordered from a single supplier (e.g., newegg), as then shipping is cheaper. It's arguable that prebuilts are in fact better values do to the software that comes with them, but for me that is not the case (yo ho ho).
 

astroview

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Don't forget Opportunity Cost. If you're a poor college student like me with LOTS of spare time, then building one is great. If you're a lawyer pulling down 150k a year, then building one for yourself is more expensive because you just wasted a lot of potential money. :D
 

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I read the article on extremetech, but not everything is in pure $ terms. While you save money anyway, you get a lot more by building your own system. You know everything that goes in it, easy to upgrade, and you know it like the back of your hand. Most prebuilt systems have a lot of things that you cannot do with it, unlike home built. All in all, I almost always prefer homebuilt.
 

SteelCityFan

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I am like many here. I build my own because that way I can choose every single component. I am not stuck with a Anti-Over Clock Low featured motherboard etc.

I would build my own even if it was more expensive to do so. This last upgrade was just a new Vid, Mobo, Ram, CPU, so I don't know what it is to build the whole system vs buying a prebuilt.
 

BuckleDownBen

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<< Don't forget Opportunity Cost. If you're a poor college student like me with LOTS of spare time, then building one is great. If you're a lawyer pulling down 150k a year, then building one for yourself is more expensive because you just wasted a lot of potential money. :D >>



If you are a lawyer and you can't spare a couple hours to assemble a PC, then you are working way too hard and charging way too little if you only make 150k a year. People that put together model trains consider it a hobby. I think building a computer is a hobby too. I wouldn't buy a prebuilt, because I like putting it together.
 

Acanthus

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if you plan to overclock, dont buy one, build one, if you just want to browse the internet, buy a crappy gateway ;) you might need the tech support to tell you to format sometime
 

human2k

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Bottom line is that prebuilt systems use crappy chipsets with everything integrated and very few xpansions slots. THIs leaves you basically no upgrade path other than putting in new drive. WIth building it urself, you just swap out your cpu with a faster one :D.
 

MichaelD

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<< Bottom line is that prebuilt systems use crappy chipsets with everything integrated and very few xpansions slots. THIs leaves you basically no upgrade path other than putting in new drive. WIth building it urself, you just swap out your cpu with a faster one :D. >>



Agree for the most part. The above statement applies to Dells/Gateway/Comcrap/etc. If you buy something like a Falcon prebuilt, then those are 100% upgradable, but for what they rape you for one of those Falcon's, you could almost build TWO identical systems if you built it yourself.

I've built a few systems for friends as well over the past 18 months and when approached to build one, my first question to them is "what Operating System do you want to run and do you currently own a copy of it?"

The reason is this: I've found that parts-wise, with some careful internet shopping, you can build an "identical" PC to say, a top-line Dell, but for about $200-300 less (ballpark figures, here...each system is different.) But once you add in $130 or so for W2K Pro, then $200 for MS Office, your cost savings goes out the window.

I build boxes for myself and have no moral quandry with loading my LEGALLY PURCHASED BY ME copy of W2K pro on every system for my personal use. However, I'm not giving a copy of my OS to say, "just some guy" who I'm building a system for and charging him a nominal fee for my time/expertise.

If you have a decent monitor and speakers (keyboards and mice are cheap) and don't plan on upgrading them soon, build your own.

But these days prices on hardware are so cheap as compared to just a year ago, manufacturers like Dell are offering some sweet deals. Free printer, free CDRW upgrade/free 19" monitor upgrade are very nice and tempting offeres. Depends on you and your situation.
 

Belegost

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It comes down to budget. When I talk about the prices here I refer to a whole system, not including any tax or shipping, but including the price of apps and OS. If you have components to keep using, then building becomes more of an option at lower price points.

If you want a cheap system, say less than $1000 then buying a dell or equivalent usually comes out the better deal, you usually get crap they had sitting around from discontinued models, and low quality junk some cheap taiwanese manufacturer dumped on them, but you're going to get that building yourself too, at least dell et al. offer a warranty on it.

In the $1000-2000 range it generally comes out about even, the deals the big sellers can offer can sometimes give a price edge, but you generally end up with much higher quality components building yourself in this price range. This is the break-even point for building yourself, since the big corps tend to inflate their systems in this range a little to make some profit that the low-end systems don't. When building yourself here, make some compromises, choose a slightly lower clocked CPU and buy a mobo that can overclock, skip the most recent video card, and buy one generation back i.e. Gf3 or Radeon 8500/8500LE instead of a Gf4, this way you can still afford quality components for the less obvious things, such as major brand RAM.

In my experience, for anything surpassing $2000 building it yourself is the best way to go. The big corps tend to gouge these high-end systems because they know they can get it. They generally still cut some corners here too, using shady PSUs and RAM modules with names on them that you can't pronounce.

Of course YMMV, and picking up the hot deals can build a good computer for significantly less than the big retailers. As everyone above mentioned, building it yourself is a good move looking forward, generally off-the-shelf components have much better upgrade paths available, plus you have complete control over the system, and problems become less of a pain.
 

SHoddyCOmp

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You could make it 'cheap' or 'expensive' depending where your requirements for each end and start again. Generally as its obviously already been mentioned you can get whatever you want and know exactly what you're buyingand getting into when you build it yourself. You could for the equivalent performance of an OEM computer build one for less but it seems that almost always with any custom built you go for the good stuff and end up wondering how you paid through the nose for the complete setup. Thats what I did :Q heh. I just hope my GA7VRXP doesnt give me troubles or i'll be :|
 

CrazySaint

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Belegost said:
If you want a cheap system, say less than $1000 then buying a dell or equivalent usually comes out the better deal, you usually get crap they had sitting around from discontinued models, and low quality junk some cheap taiwanese manufacturer dumped on them, but you're going to get that building yourself too, at least dell et al. offer a warranty on it.

I disagree with that a bit, for $1000 you can build a pretty decent system. For instance, once all is said and done I'll be spending about $800 (will be keeping current video card for a while) and will get the following:

Athlon XP 1800+ (probably TBred, dunno yet)
Seagate Barracuda IV 60 or 80GB HD
Asus A7V333 mobo
512MB PC2100 RAM (maybe 256MB PC2700)
NEC FE950+(black) monitor
Antec PP660B case
etc

Sure, you could build a better system for $1500-2000, but that's not too bad.
 

DJSnairdA

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Well, I assembled my computer by myself (well, with the help of a mate) and it was a very cost effective solution. I see the identical systems (with dodgy vid cards etc) being sold on TV for double the price (that might just be Australia though?? :confused;)

Apart from the cost effectiveness, you also gain some experience on assembling computers, which I think is the ultimate advantage. i.e You put it together, you should be able to pull it apart :):D
 

lastig21

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Building a computer will probably lead to curiosity, while buying a prebuilt will probably lead to contentment. If you have access to the software you need, you can probably build a computer for less than a prebuilt. In a couple of months though, a new video card will be released and you may just want to see how it runs in the computer that you built. You know you can install it since you built the computer yourself, and alas the upgrade bug bites. Most people I know never upgrade their HP's, Compaq's, etc. They aren't interested in upgrades, and probably couldn't upgrade anyway. I know the upgrade bug doesn't bite everyone, but I have spent more on upgrades then I ever did building the initial computer.