Is BluRay necessary for older movies?

d4mo

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I habe yet to take the BR plunge. But I have a decent collection of DVDs. I still buy DVDs. Usually when I can get them cheap on ebay or like during the deepdiscount 20% off sale.

My question is, is HD really necessary for the majority of movies out there? Specifically Comedies, older action. Basically anything thats not action it seems to me that DVDs would be fine, and would hold up just fine for along time to come.

I can see how Bluray is great for Transformers or Batman or movies like that. I just don't want the bulk of my movie collection to be unwatchable junk in the future.
 

DaveSimmons

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. I just don't want the bulk of my movie collection to be unwatchable junk in the future.
That won't happen. Blu-ray drives will be $30 in a few years, replacing DVD drives in PCs, etc. Cheap standalone players are already down to $99 now and will be $30-40 in a few years too. You'll be able to play any blu-rays you own for the next 50 years.

is HD really necessary for the majority of movies out there? Specifically Comedies, older action. ... Basically anything thats not action it seems to me that DVDs would be fine,
"It depends." I'd love to have 1080p versions of Wings of Desire and Kieslowski's Three Colors trilogy, neither of which has many car chases or explosions.

If you're in the US you can always get Netflix and try before you buy.
 

Slick5150

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I'd agree that there are a number of movies in my collection that I wouldn't have any intention of "upgrading" to Blu-Ray as you just aren't going to get much more out of them. The Dark Knight, 300, Master & Commander (the DTS-HD track on that disc is most excellent), sure, that made sense to me. But Caddyshack? Nope. (I don't even know if that's out on Blu-Ray, but just an example).

 

sdifox

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You could wait out BRD and replace only when it hit's 4K resolution.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: sdifox
You could wait out BRD and replace only when it hit's 4K resolution.

Yeah, but then they'll be talking about 3D 8K. ;)

I've been upgrading all my DVD movies to Blu-ray slowly as they come out and at a certain price. I picked up quite a few Blu-rays from Fry's for $9.99 each and I even got the Fifth Element for $2.03 on Blu-ray. :) And if you have any of the Jame Bond movie on DVD, I HIGHLY suggest upgrading to the new Blu-ray versions. Simply amazing looking!

Right now my Blu-ray library is at about 200 movies (all new when purchased) and growing pretty quickly. :) You just have to keep an eye out for good deals.
 

d4mo

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
. I just don't want the bulk of my movie collection to be unwatchable junk in the future.
That won't happen. Blu-ray drives will be $30 in a few years, replacing DVD drives in PCs, etc. Cheap standalone players are already down to $99 now and will be $30-40 in a few years too. You'll be able to play any blu-rays you own for the next 50 years.

is HD really necessary for the majority of movies out there? Specifically Comedies, older action. ... Basically anything thats not action it seems to me that DVDs would be fine,
"It depends." I'd love to have 1080p versions of Wings of Desire and Kieslowski's Three Colors trilogy, neither of which has many car chases or explosions.

If you're in the US you can always get Netflix and try before you buy.

The unwatchable junk comment was regarding my current and expanding DVD collection. Because I am still buying DVD's.

 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: sdifox
You could wait out BRD and replace only when it hit's 4K resolution.

Yeah, but then they'll be talking about 3D 8K. ;)

I've been upgrading all my DVD movies to Blu-ray slowly as they come out and at a certain price. I picked up quite a few Blu-rays from Fry's for $9.99 each and I even got the Fifth Element for $2.03 on Blu-ray. :) And if you have any of the Jame Bond movie on DVD, I HIGHLY suggest upgrading to the new Blu-ray versions. Simply amazing looking!

Right now my Blu-ray library is at about 200 movies (all new when purchased) and growing pretty quickly. :) You just have to keep an eye out for good deals.

I have all the bond DVDs (except Quantum, went brd) so I might upgrade those. But I am not willing to pay premium for the upgrade... And no way I am replacing 1200dvds.

 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: sdifox
You could wait out BRD and replace only when it hit's 4K resolution.

Yeah, but then they'll be talking about 3D 8K. ;)

I've been upgrading all my DVD movies to Blu-ray slowly as they come out and at a certain price. I picked up quite a few Blu-rays from Fry's for $9.99 each and I even got the Fifth Element for $2.03 on Blu-ray. :) And if you have any of the Jame Bond movie on DVD, I HIGHLY suggest upgrading to the new Blu-ray versions. Simply amazing looking!

Right now my Blu-ray library is at about 200 movies (all new when purchased) and growing pretty quickly. :) You just have to keep an eye out for good deals.

I have all the bond DVDs (except Quantum, went brd) so I might upgrade those. But I am not willing to pay premium for the upgrade... And no way I am replacing 1200dvds.

Yeah, see, you have A LOT more DVDs than I had. If I had 1200+ DVDs I wouldn't be looking to replace them all either. ;)
 

s44

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Originally posted by: d4mo
My question is, is HD really necessary for the majority of movies out there?
Yes. Remember that 35mm still has better resolution than HD.
 

Slick5150

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Originally posted by: s44
Originally posted by: d4mo
My question is, is HD really necessary for the majority of movies out there?
Yes. Remember that 35mm still has better resolution than HD.

Feasibility does not automatically mean necessary. Two very different concepts.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Originally posted by: s44
Originally posted by: d4mo
My question is, is HD really necessary for the majority of movies out there?
Yes. Remember that 35mm still has better resolution than HD.

Feasibility does not automatically mean necessary. Two very different concepts.

Well, it's not necessary for any movie :p
 

JSt0rm

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well if they go back to the original film then yes it will. everything on bluray now is brought in at 2k or 4k (really hi res) so they are ready for 2 more steps above bluray RIGHT NOW. People are filming digital 2k for cheap (relative) http://www.red.com/
 

JSt0rm

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after reading more to touch on the 2k 4k thing. 4k will be a boom for cinemas. They will be able to pipe in digital that will look good blown up to like the dome at the arclight in hollywood. But 4k wont really be needed at home just like 720p and 1080i are "good enough" for basically anything under 50"
 

pcslookout

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Most of my favorite movies will never come on Blu-Ray except a select few. If they do it will be well over 10 to 20 years until they do. They took long enough to come out on DVD officially some still have not.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: d4mo
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
. I just don't want the bulk of my movie collection to be unwatchable junk in the future.
That won't happen. Blu-ray drives will be $30 in a few years, replacing DVD drives in PCs, etc. Cheap standalone players are already down to $99 now and will be $30-40 in a few years too. You'll be able to play any blu-rays you own for the next 50 years.

is HD really necessary for the majority of movies out there? Specifically Comedies, older action. ... Basically anything thats not action it seems to me that DVDs would be fine,
"It depends." I'd love to have 1080p versions of Wings of Desire and Kieslowski's Three Colors trilogy, neither of which has many car chases or explosions.

If you're in the US you can always get Netflix and try before you buy.

The unwatchable junk comment was regarding my current and expanding DVD collection. Because I am still buying DVD's.

i'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. blu-ray players can play DVDs.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
after reading more to touch on the 2k 4k thing. 4k will be a boom for cinemas. They will be able to pipe in digital that will look good blown up to like the dome at the arclight in hollywood. But 4k wont really be needed at home just like 720p and 1080i are "good enough" for basically anything under 50"

I want my 4K projector for under 2000 :laugh:

Then I'll put up a 60' screen in my back yard :)
 

Bugalaman

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Full Metal Jacket looks pretty darn good in 1080p. I love to watch older movies on Blu-ray. Heck some transfers of 35mm movies look better than new releases
 

d4mo

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: d4mo
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
. I just don't want the bulk of my movie collection to be unwatchable junk in the future.
That won't happen. Blu-ray drives will be $30 in a few years, replacing DVD drives in PCs, etc. Cheap standalone players are already down to $99 now and will be $30-40 in a few years too. You'll be able to play any blu-rays you own for the next 50 years.

is HD really necessary for the majority of movies out there? Specifically Comedies, older action. ... Basically anything thats not action it seems to me that DVDs would be fine,
"It depends." I'd love to have 1080p versions of Wings of Desire and Kieslowski's Three Colors trilogy, neither of which has many car chases or explosions.

If you're in the US you can always get Netflix and try before you buy.

The unwatchable junk comment was regarding my current and expanding DVD collection. Because I am still buying DVD's.

i'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. blu-ray players can play DVDs.

I didn't mean they wouldn't play. I just meant they they would look so bad that you couldn't bring yourself to watch one.

 

erwos

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Food, water, shelter, air? Necessary. DVDs and Blu-Rays? Not necessary.

I think what you're really trying to ask is, "Do BR-D versions of older movies merit the increased priced premium over the DVD versions?" And, as others have so well-pointed out, IT DEPENDS. Some movies have better transfers than others:
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/reviews.html

For a movie like Casablanca, you better believe I'm buying the BR-D version. For "The 40 Year Old Virgin", the exact price difference might make more of a difference. I think, personally, I'd be more likely to rent the BR-D version than buy the DVD version...
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: d4mo

I didn't mean they wouldn't play. I just meant they they would look so bad that you couldn't bring yourself to watch one.

It's actually not too bad. Of course it is not as sharp as BRD, but not bad at all.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: Bugalaman
Full Metal Jacket looks pretty darn good in 1080p. I love to watch older movies on Blu-ray. Heck some transfers of 35mm movies look better than new releases

Has to be the second edition though. First transfer was garbage.

I also bought T1 for around $10 and it looks awesome.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Bugalaman
Full Metal Jacket looks pretty darn good in 1080p. I love to watch older movies on Blu-ray. Heck some transfers of 35mm movies look better than new releases

Has to be the second edition though. First transfer was garbage.

I also bought T1 for around $10 and it looks awesome.

Meh, I wouldn't say it looks awful, I'd say it is a TAD bit better than DVD. Nothing fantastic though.
 

tk149

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The answer is...what's it worth to you?

For stuff where the visuals aren't as important (e.g. comedies), then I don't think BD is worth the upgrade from DVD. Would I prefer it? Yes, but I'm not going to pay for it.

 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: d4mo
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
. I just don't want the bulk of my movie collection to be unwatchable junk in the future.
That won't happen. Blu-ray drives will be $30 in a few years, replacing DVD drives in PCs, etc. Cheap standalone players are already down to $99 now and will be $30-40 in a few years too. You'll be able to play any blu-rays you own for the next 50 years.

is HD really necessary for the majority of movies out there? Specifically Comedies, older action. ... Basically anything thats not action it seems to me that DVDs would be fine,
"It depends." I'd love to have 1080p versions of Wings of Desire and Kieslowski's Three Colors trilogy, neither of which has many car chases or explosions.

If you're in the US you can always get Netflix and try before you buy.

The unwatchable junk comment was regarding my current and expanding DVD collection. Because I am still buying DVD's.

i'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. blu-ray players can play DVDs.

Yeah, and most, if not all, also upconvert regular DVD's. So there's a slight difference you'll see in your current DVD's.