Question Is better I5 9600k or i7 9700k for the xtreme z390 aorus?

[Aorus73]

Good mornig and good Santa Claus at all i have ordered 1 aorus Z390 xtreme and i need advice for the cpu my interest is streaming gaming and photo/video editing amatorial, so is better i5 9600k or i7 9700k?
And probably i need help for the processor overclock that i have write in the thread when i have buy 1!!!
Ah sorry i present me my name is Federico from Padova!!!!

 

[Arachnotronic]

9700K.

 

[Aorus73]

ok thanks and what is the best settings for reach 5.1 stable with liquid cooler or air cooler?Because my intention is to buy one water cooling kit from alphacool or ek what do you think is a good idea?

 

[Arachnotronic]

ok thanks and what is the best settings for reach 5.1 stable with liquid cooler or air cooler?Because my intention is to buy one water cooling kit from alphacool or ek what do you think is a good idea?

I don't know. Not all silicon is guaranteed to even hit 5.1GHz. TBH, the performance gain you'll get in trying to get to 5.1GHz over, say, 4.9GHz or 5GHz isn't a ton. You're better off spending less on the super fancy cooling and just putting the extra money towards a 9900K and a decent AIO cooler, which will give you a lot better multi-threaded performance out of the box.

 

[Aorus73]

ok for the ram what do you hint 3200-3600?
For only streaming and gaming is good the 9600k right Arachnotronic?

 

[DrMrLordX]

@Aorus73, what is your budget?

 

[Aorus73]

@Aorus73, what is your budget?

800-1000€ is my budget ah the motherboard z390 aorus xtreme is arrived at my home

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[DrMrLordX]

800-1000€ is my budget ah the motherboard z390 aorus xtreme is arrived at my home

Hope you like the board.

I'm not sure what they're charging for the 9900k right now, but I'm pretty sure you can get that and a decent AiO for less that 1000 Euros. Hell you can probably get that for less than 800 Euros. Just get something with a 360mm rad and call it a day. I can't make a specific recommendation but I'm sure someone here or in the Cases&Cooling forum can help you with that. Then you won't have to think about a 9600k or 9700k plus custom WC kit.

 

[Aorus73]

Hope you like the board.

I'm not sure what they're charging for the 9900k right now, but I'm pretty sure you can get that and a decent AiO for less that 1000 Euros. Hell you can probably get that for less than 800 Euros. Just get something with a 360mm rad and call it a day. I can't make a specific recommendation but I'm sure someone here or in the Cases&Cooling forum can help you with that. Then you won't have to think about a 9600k or 9700k plus custom WC kit.

So you think that for the moment an aio and in the future a custom loop right?
The 1000€ is 9700k/9900K + ram + Water Cooling kit/AIO

 

[DrMrLordX]

You may not need a custom kit at all. An AiO should be enough to cool a 9900k, as long as you get one of the better units on the market. Make sure it will fit in your case.

Having to fit RAM into that budget may make things a bit tighter. If you have to save money on the CPU, get the 9700k. But I think you could still get a 9900k, 360mm AiO, and DDR4-3600 for 1000 Euros or less. I just don't know what merchants are charging in your country, so it's hard for me to say for sure. In the US, I could put together this selection:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ymMCcY

That's a 9900k, a Corsair AiO, and DDR4-3600 CAS 17, for $878 ($858 after rebates). That easily comes in under 1000 Euros.

 

[Aorus73]

You may not need a custom kit at all. An AiO should be enough to cool a 9900k, as long as you get one of the better units on the market. Make sure it will fit in your case.

Having to fit RAM into that budget may make things a bit tighter. If you have to save money on the CPU, get the 9700k. But I think you could still get a 9900k, 360mm AiO, and DDR4-3600 for 1000 Euros or less. I just don't know what merchants are charging in your country, so it's hard for me to say for sure. In the US, I could put together this selection:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ymMCcY

That's a 9900k, a Corsair AiO, and DDR4-3600 CAS 17, for $878 ($858 after rebates). That easily comes in under 1000 Euros.

I use Amazon.de

 

[DigDog]

Seems like a very expensive setup for casual use :/

 

[Aorus73]

So 300€ for 9600k and 489 for 9700k and 599 for 9900k i esclude the 9900k for the moment and i take an eye for 9600k or 9700k

 

[DigDog]

Imho .. the 9600k is fine. I play games, edit video, on a 4.2ghz 4670k. You get +25% SC performance, +75% MC performance, i dont think you'd have any problems.
Also the aorus extreme ... jesus. How much was that ??
You know you can buy a $130 z390 and the results will be the same, yes?

 

[Aorus73]

Imho .. the 9600k is fine. I play games, edit video, on a 4.2ghz 4670k. You get +25% SC performance, +75% MC performance, i dont think you'd have any problems.
Also the aorus extreme ... jesus. How much was that ??
You know you can buy a $130 z390 and the results will be the same, yes?

The motherboard i have it i have buy 1 z390 aorus xtreme and i need the CPU the RAM and the AIO only

 

[DigDog]

Im saying that the aorus extreme is too expensive for what you get. There is very little benefit from buying a €500 mobo because the z390-p or the gigabyte z390 UD are almost identical and cost €150.
From your questions and choices i get the impression that this is your first PC.

 

[Aorus73]

Im saying that the aorus extreme is too expensive for what you get. There is very little benefit from buying a €500 mobo because the z390-p or the gigabyte z390 UD are almost identical and cost €150.
From your questions and choices i get the impression that this is your first PC.

Ok i have decided for the 9900k now i must choose the ram and the AIO nzxt or Thermaltake Floe riing this un upgrade for my old pc amd!!!

 

[DigDog]

If you go AIO, go with the Corsair h115i or h150i depending on your case.

 

[Aorus73]

If you go AIO, go with the Corsair h115i or h150i depending on your case.

My case is a h500m from cooler master

 

[ozzy702]

First off, send that motherboard back and spend $175-$225 to get 99% of the quality and features. That's an insane amount of money to spend, especially if you aren't running a 9900k and custom loop.

9600K is a no go for me. The performance issues on FC5 alone are enough to make it a CPU I wouldn't consider. If those are your choices, 9700k all the way.

Also, no need for exotic cooling if you leave the 9700k/9900k at stock settings and run an updated bios that isn't overvolting the crap out of it. D15 will cool it just fine assuming you have a adequate case ventilation.

 

[Aorus73]

First off, send that motherboard back and spend $175-$225 to get 99% of the quality and features. That's an insane amount of money to spend, especially if you aren't running a 9900k and custom loop.

9600K is a no go for me. The performance issues on FC5 alone are enough to make it a CPU I wouldn't consider. If those are your choices, 9700k all the way.

Also, no need for exotic cooling if you leave the 9700k/9900k at stock settings and run an updated bios that isn't overvolting the crap out of it. D15 will cool it just fine assuming you have a adequate case ventilation.

5.1 or 5.2 i'll put the cpu in oc

 

[ozzy702]

5.1 or 5.2 i'll put the cpu in oc

For the same money you could go with a 9900k, which is WAY faster at stock than a Max OC 9600k. You can do 5.1 or 5.2ghz with the right chip EASILY on a $200 mobo. You're blowing half your budget on a motherboard and receiving zero benefit over a motherboard half it's cost.

 

[Aorus73]

For the same money you could go with a 9900k, which is WAY faster at stock than a Max OC 9600k. You can do 5.1 or 5.2ghz with the right chip EASILY on a $200 mobo. You're blowing half your budget on a motherboard and receiving zero benefit over a motherboard half it's cost.

For the moment i buy the corsair dominator 16gb 2x8 with airflow and then the kit liquid and for the last the cpu !!!

 

[DrMrLordX]

Get the 9700k. Not sure why you are so hell-bent on getting a WC kit like that (AiO is cheaper, and all you really need, even for a 9900k) but to each his own.

Also dominator RAM usually = expensive for what you get.

I agree with @ozzy702 that your board choice really restricted your budget. A cheaper board and an AiO would have given you the budget for a 9900k which would realistically be your fastest option.

 

[DigDog]

Su le motherboard quello che conta sono i regolatori di tensione, che sono integrali al disegno della mobo, e i componenti addizionali, tipo le usb ports, le line ethernet, il chip audio, etc.
Oltre a queste, ci sono parti non indispensabili come i dissipatori di calore, le ventole, e le lucette varie e cazzate annesse.
Da circa 10 anni la qualita dei pcb e' eccezionale su tutta la gamma di mobo; alla fine quello che conta sono le VRM (i regolatori) e i componenti addizionali.
Quella mobo che ti sei comprato ha un prezzo OSCENO, che, realisticamente, non offre nessun beneficio sopra mobo molto piu economiche. Mo', i soldi sono tuoi e tu ci fai quello che ti pare, ma visto che stai su un budget, e che hai preso la mobo da amazon, potresti rimandargliela e prenderti una -P o una UD e risparmiare 2~300 euri che poi puoi mettere da altre parti dove veramente contano, come la scheda grafica o la cpu.

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