Is Apple about to lose its dominance in the smartphone/tablet market?

[gorcorps]

I don't understand the people who bitch about the screen being too big yet buy phones with big screens anyway only to bitch about the screen being big.

Well, what choices are there for top of the line android phones? They all have huge screens whether you want it or not. So there are plenty of people who buy them but still have something to complain about. Nothing's perfect out there

 

[dagamer34]

Well, what choices are there for top of the line android phones? They all have huge screens whether you want it or not. So there are plenty of people who buy them but still have something to complain about. Nothing's perfect out there

There are no high end 4.3" Android phones. As soon as you drop below 4.3", OEMs ditch the 720p screen and switch to either qHD or WVGA, which is disappointing when you know the HTC Rezound and HTC Windows Phone 8X both have 4.3" 720p displays. And if Sharp and LG can make 5" 1080p displays (443 PPI), they can certainly make smaller 720p displays with a lower PPI if necessary. 720p display at 4" is only 367 PPI or at 3.7" is 396 PPI.

 

[MrX8503]

To get a top end android phone you're limited to the giant screen phones. Naturally this is how Android manufactures have differentiated themselves from the iPhone.

 

[s44]

There are no high end 4.3" Android phones.

Galaxy Nexus: 4.65" including buttons
Experia TL: 4.55" including buttons

The latter is, I think, actually a touch under 4.3" non-button space.

 

[alkemyst]

Sadly the iPhone5 was an example of post-Jobs.

I have an upgrade coming in November, probably moving from my iPhone 4 to a 4s.

 

[Zaap]

QFT. Just look @ IBM & the pc, same thing was happening back in the 80s with desktops, Apple lost big time. Its like history is literally repeating itself, & Apple just didnt seem to learn.

While I get what you're saying (and agree somewhat with the bigger picture part of it)... what exactly has Apple lost out on 'big time'?

Personally, I think it was a blessing in disguise that they didn't initially dominate the personal computer market. It allowed them to actually follow the original 'think different' path which has only resulted in the "terrible failure" of them becoming one of the largest companies in the world.

I'm curious which of the companies Apple originally was up against anyone in their wildest imaginations thinks that Apple would today want to trade places with.

Apple may have lost a few battles along the way, but they sure as hell didn't lose the war. (Not yet, anyway. Their current resting on their own laurels too much, relying more on legal system dick-moves than innovation, and doing anything but 'thinking different' is another whole story.)

 

[Zaap]

I don't get this quibbling over .5 inches (or even .3!) of screen real estate. I hardly notice any difference carrying my SGS3 at 4.8" vs. my old Droid X at 4.3". If anything, the SGS3 is thinner, and actually feels slightly lighter. When you really look at the phones, it could be you're actually only quibbling over more bezel space and less height to the screen, than actual phone size.

Disclaimer: Now, I now to some drama queens the above difference in size of a 4.8" SGS3 and 4.3" DX must be, and I quote: "A HUUUUUUUUGE GINORMOUS DIFFERENCE OMG!!!!!!!!!1111!!!"

The reality is: NO it freakin' isn't.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Disclaimer: Now, I now to some drama queens the above difference in size of a 4.8" SGS3 and 4.3" DX must be, and I quote: "A HUUUUUUUUGE GINORMOUS DIFFERENCE OMG!!!!!!!!!1111!!!"

The reality is: NO it freakin' isn't.

Exactly, despite the outrageous claims people make there really isn't a huge difference in size between their "perfect" 4.3" devices and "enormous" 4.7" and 4.8" phones. I've compared both the One X and SGS3 side by side with my SGS2 and when it comes to actually holding them in your hand the difference in size is inconsequential.

 

[kyrax12]

Sadly the iPhone5 was an example of post-Jobs.

I have an upgrade coming in November, probably moving from my iPhone 4 to a 4s.

What don't you like about the iphone 5?

 

[Mopetar]

Exactly, despite the outrageous claims people make there really isn't a huge difference in size between their "perfect" 4.3" devices and "enormous" 4.7" and 4.8" phones. I've compared both the One X and SGS3 side by side with my SGS2 and when it comes to actually holding them in your hand the difference in size is inconsequential.

It's not about the size of the device. It's about the ability to use the phone with one hand. If you have a smaller hand, there's no way to actually be able to reach every part of your screen with your thumb.

 

[ponyo]

It's not about the size of the device. It's about the ability to use the phone with one hand. If you have a smaller hand, there's no way to actually be able to reach every part of your screen with your thumb.

If you have problem with SGS3 and One X, you're going to have the same problem with iPhone 5.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

It's not about the size of the device. It's about the ability to use the phone with one hand. If you have a smaller hand, there's no way to actually be able to reach every part of your screen with your thumb.

I didn't find the One X any harder to use than my SGS2, it just has less bezel. I didn't have as much time with the SGS3 but I don't see how it would be any different.

 

[Mopetar]

If you have problem with SGS3 and One X, you're going to have the same problem with iPhone 5.

I haven't tried an iPhone 5, so I can't say for certain, but from my experiences, anything beyond 4.3" isn't going to be comfortably usable for me. There might be some give and take in there depending on the bezel size, but I honestly wouldn't want to use anything larger than that if there's something smaller the suits my needs.

 

[shortylickens]

Well, what choices are there for top of the line android phones? They all have huge screens whether you want it or not. So there are plenty of people who buy them but still have something to complain about. Nothing's perfect out there

https://www.google.com/search?q=raz...sugexp=chrome,mod=15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[badb0y]

If you have problem with SGS3 and One X, you're going to have the same problem with iPhone 5.

Lol, no I have both of these phones and the iPhone is much easier to use in one hand.

I don't see how anyone can operate a SGS3/One X with 1 hand. I am a pretty average height guy (6'0") and I cannot handle the One X in 1 hand comfortably.

 

[gorcorps]

If you have problem with SGS3 and One X, you're going to have the same problem with iPhone 5.

That's so very much NOT true it's staggering you have the stones to claim such BS. The iPhone 5 is still quite small in smartphone terms, and is noticeably easier to use one handed then my sgs2, let alone a 3 or one x.

 

[ponyo]

That's so very much NOT true it's staggering you have the stones to claim such BS. The iPhone 5 is still quite small in smartphone terms, and is noticeably easier to use one handed then my sgs2, let alone a 3 or one x.

So are you telling me my opinion is not valid as yours? I held SGS3, iPhone 5, and Galaxy Nexus in my hand. I had to stretch my thumb to reach the top on all three phones. iP5 is awkward phone to hold and use one handed. I found SGS3 easier to hold and use one handed than iP5.

 

[bearxor]

So are you telling me my opinion is not valid as yours? I held SGS3, iPhone 5, and Galaxy Nexus in my hand. I had to stretch my thumb to reach the top on all three phones. iP5 is awkward phone to hold and use one handed. I found SGS3 easier to hold and use one handed than iP5.

I think the problem is that you phrased it as an absolute. As though it was a fact, not your opinion.

Honestly, I have no understanding how you could think an SGS3 is easier to handle than an iPhone 5, but whateves.

Going from an iPhone 4 to a Galaxy Nexus was quite mind blowing. The GNex was simply borderline unusable one handed. It was just way too wide. That's why I was intrigued by iPhone 5's taller screen. It's much better.

In other news, I got the RAZR M Friday. That thing is freaking tight. I don't buy the "edge to edge" screen. The edge of the screen to the edge of the phone is about the same as the iPhone 5, I can't really discern a difference between the two. But the entire package is tight, contained and feels solid. The 4.3" screen is totally usable with one hand because of the tightened package. Seriously, I'm in love with that device. If it had a 1280x720 screen I would think its simply the best Android device Verizon has. And the screen isn't really that terrible anyways.

I mean, if Apple can put a nearly 720p screen on a 4" screen, Motorola could have rocked that device with a full 720p screen. The problem, I suppose, is that they have to try and create separation between the RAZR HD.

 

[dagamer34]

Galaxy Nexus: 4.65" including buttons
Experia TL: 4.55" including buttons

The latter is, I think, actually a touch under 4.3" non-button space.

4.65" and 4.5" is not 4.3".

 

[gorcorps]

So are you telling me my opinion is not valid as yours? I held SGS3, iPhone 5, and Galaxy Nexus in my hand. I had to stretch my thumb to reach the top on all three phones. iP5 is awkward phone to hold and use one handed. I found SGS3 easier to hold and use one handed than iP5.

No, because:

I think the problem is that you phrased it as an absolute. As though it was a fact, not your opinion.

You flat out told the guy he would definitely have the problem with all of them, when you should have said "I have the same problem with all of them, so you might too". Nobody can account for everybody's hands so yes, it's all opinion, so you should tell it like it is.

 

[ManSnake]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...thats-causing-problems-for-apple-and-foxconn/

Interesting article!

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

everytime there's manufacturing issues, the manufacturing engineer part of me comes to life and wonders how they passed PV if these issues are as rampant as people say. moreover, how do you pass standard QC?